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  • 08-21-2012, 05:39 PM
    Sicofthis
    There's an easy check for noncondensables get post count up and apply for pro.
  • 08-21-2012, 04:12 PM
    Rodney28334
    Make sure the piston isnt clogged, but if it were your sh and sc shouldnt be in line. If it warms up any it will be bouncing off high limit.
  • 08-21-2012, 11:28 AM
    mgenius33
    Quote Originally Posted by maxwell800xp View Post
    I can hear the compressor labor at the higher pressure. My boss said not to worry about it unless the customer calls. I think the compressor may be damaged by this high pressure. Any thoughts out there?
    I hope there are plenty of homeowners reading this post!
    This is that guy who came in $1000 lower on a full system quote!
    Now you know what you're paying for!

    I hope your boss goes out of business for ruining my industry! Sorry about your luck. I would suggest finding someone else to work for. You are on a sinking ship!
  • 08-21-2012, 07:40 AM
    drife678
    Same thing at my company. After I wasted around 15 pounds from two different systems, they finally sent a memo out to all our installers.who cant read anyway. Big sticker right.next to service valves charged with nitrogen, remove and pull vacum then charge.. Lol dont.they get it dry unit....lol
  • 08-21-2012, 12:37 AM
    LibertyTree
    Quote Originally Posted by heresjohnnyb View Post
    You have nitrogen mixed in with the 410. May have happened at the factory or with your leak test if you did one. Pull the charge in the system and be careful not to kill your recovery machine doing it. you may have to resort to some diminimus to not damage your equipment.
    I read your post and it made me cringe... I just had one of my guy's install a Goodman dry R22 unit. I told him about 8 times that there is no refrigerant in the damn thing and that he needs to let the nitrogen out then pull a vac then charge. This dullard went ahead and pulled a vac then cracked the valves releasing all the nitrogen into the system then turned the unit on... He sat there for 2 hours like a dope trying to figure out why the suction side gauge was pegged out at "retard". I told him that he's the reason why it says "retard"... I went out there and heard the compressor being tortured to death.
  • 08-20-2012, 07:38 AM
    heresjohnnyb
    You have nitrogen mixed in with the 410. May have happened at the factory or with your leak test if you did one. Pull the charge in the system and be careful not to kill your recovery machine doing it. you may have to resort to some diminimus to not damage your equipment.
  • 08-19-2012, 11:53 PM
    Shylton05
    Sounds like noncondensables. Recover the system, pull a good vacuum, and recharge. Your boss should be smacked for telling to not do anything unless the customer says something about the noise!
  • 08-19-2012, 08:42 PM
    Oldschoolmetal
    I would say overcharged..
  • 08-19-2012, 07:28 PM
    dna
    Sounds like non-connies also.
  • 08-19-2012, 05:52 PM
    drife678
    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyTree View Post
    Goodman doesn't use Microchannel, but on their AC's they use a 5mm coil. Both are critical charge units (I think the 5mm is a bit more forgiving.) I'm putting my money on overcharge with a side of non-condensables.
    non condensibles.
  • 08-19-2012, 04:35 AM
    LibertyTree
    Quote Originally Posted by SoFlaDave View Post
    If its a microchannel condenser the charge will be very light for even the shortest runs and in general will hold almost 20% less than a comparable tube/fin system when fully charged.
    Goodman doesn't use Microchannel, but on their AC's they use a 5mm coil. Both are critical charge units (I think the 5mm is a bit more forgiving.) I'm putting my money on overcharge with a side of non-condensables.
  • 08-18-2012, 10:38 PM
    SoFlaDave
    If its a microchannel condenser the charge will be very light for even the shortest runs and in general will hold almost 20% less than a comparable tube/fin system when fully charged.
  • 08-18-2012, 09:26 PM
    Crazecodyk
    They ship systems with orifices and txvs. If was new system why wasn't the factory charge adequate?
  • 08-18-2012, 09:09 PM
    kw10925
    Not to sound stupid but from what i read he has a new 410a system and a new air handler,Shouldnt that be a txv not a fixed orifice.
    and did he change the filter drier as well
  • 08-18-2012, 10:24 AM
    LKJoel
    Quote Originally Posted by socotech
    Sounds like noncondensables to me. Did you pull deep vacuum? Microns?
    I agree, first glance sounds like noncondensables
  • 08-18-2012, 09:49 AM
    jtrammel
    Overcharged
  • 08-18-2012, 09:18 AM
    Saturatedpsi
    For that OD temp, the head pressure should be around 375 psi. Measure subcooling and see if it's not way high.
  • 08-18-2012, 07:07 AM
    Snapperhead
    Remove some and tell us what happens ....
  • 08-17-2012, 10:07 PM
    cavitech
    Balance the charge, all I install is Goodman and I've seen this more times than I can count.
  • 08-17-2012, 09:33 PM
    socotech
    Sounds like noncondensables to me. Did you pull deep vacuum? Microns?
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