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Originally Posted by johnboy101

sounds like your a bull trying to walk through a china shop.

Seven years later, maybe that's changed.

...and you don't make a sound tip toeing through the tulips

sounds like your a bull trying to walk through a china shop.

Most american rather pay less for their lowest price walmart products then pay more for USA made products and support our countries economy. I believe that unions that make similar products at a significantly higher cost then chinese products is the main reason for outsourcing. Those people that can get jobs, for the most part, rather get a gov't check every two week then to take a more labor intensive that would net them less then unemployment may be paying. I am def not a lazy worker and it disgust me that so many people rely on gov't to take care of them. I hope that unemployment funds dry up which is the only way to get those ignorant lazy people in this country to work and support themselves. I'm glad to know that the unemployment funds i've banked over the years have a maxed out the dollar amount my account can carry and the rest goes into the pot for those who get extension after extension!! What BS! The unemployment govt employees also seem to be lazy at their jobs as well. If they really checked to see if a person on unemployment has actually been searching for a job would help tremendously.... Sorry for my late night rant fellows

Originally Posted by Nytefog

The higher end Fluke models are made in the USA and carry a better warrany. The foreign made product are of lower quality, but its a nessicary for Fluke to compete with other companies offering products at lower cost. They need to stay competitive in this market. Some people need better quality products with high accuracy that are used daily and other just need meter for some home DIY project.

Only the high end DMM's above the $270 price point. Fluke no longer makes a SINGLE clamp meter in the USA, even their top of the line most expensive clamp. Every single clamp is either made in China or Taiwan. Same with all their voltage testers and tic tracers. Soon, it will probably all their DMM's too. Every new update they make on a meter, it moves overseas.

Roughly 6 years ago, I bought the hvac combo kit.

The temperature function in the 116 meter is useless, endened up buying a fluke 52 something (reads either a degree high or low I forget) for temperature measurements, otherwise, no problems that new batteries wouldn't correct.

I am on my third 322 clamp on meter. First one didn't like being out in the rain for 3 days, second one didn't like falling off a reach in (works great if you squeeze it just right), I havent killed the third one yet.

Overall, I have been satisified with my flukes.

my fluke 28II is made in the USA. another example of the this type of outsourcing is a outerwear company named arc' teryx. they are located in Canada and made the finest technical outerwear. recently I bought another one of their jackets only to find made in China stamped on the tag. I promptly returned the jacket and contacted them. I had them send me a list of the items still made in hhouse and they all were the top end products. they had the same excuse as other companies which is lack of competitive advantage. thy did assure me that the Chinese made item were the same quality as in house items but I find that hard to believe.

good info tanks

I think "competitive" is misleading.

Companies choose offshore manufacturing to maintain profit margins, not to provide competitive pricing.

Originally Posted by Nytefog

The higher end Fluke models are made in the USA and carry a better warrany. The foreign made product are of lower quality, but its a nessicary for Fluke to compete with other companies offering products at lower cost. They need to stay competitive in this market. Some people need better quality products with high accuracy that are used daily and other just need meter for some home DIY project.

Must be their really high end stuff, because I can't find a country of origin marked on their remote display amp clamp... but the box is marked "Made in China".

This is a $400 meter.

Originally Posted by Fan Blade

You will have the same issues with Fluke leads too. I hear tons of complaints about their leads.

In my opinion, Fluke quality has really gone down the last few years. The people that still support Fluke are the guys with 10 year old meters, that were built much better. The current stuff is made in China, and not the Fluke you are used to. They have had many recalls since moving to China too.

The higher end Fluke models are made in the USA and carry a better warrany. The foreign made product are of lower quality, but its a nessicary for Fluke to compete with other companies offering products at lower cost. They need to stay competitive in this market. Some people need better quality products with high accuracy that are used daily and other just need meter for some home DIY project.

Originally Posted by Fan Blade

You will have the same issues with Fluke leads too. I hear tons of complaints about their leads.

Which ones? I got a set of sure grips from fluke and don't know what country they were made in but they haven't loosened up like my fieldpiece connections did. I looked down inside the connection and the fluke leads have more points of contact so makes sense to me why they are holding better in the same meter. So far they are the best leads I ever bought

I have three FP meters. The SC56, SRH3, and STA2. They get used a lot, especially the sc56 and no problems to date. I have thought about getting the knife style temp probe, but it sound like I maybe don't want to...

I forgot about the SRH2, that thing took a beating for a couple years and never failed me.

Originally Posted by toocoolforschool

Yea I do like feildpeice but there is no excuse for meter leads to not stay connected to the meter. In other words any tension and the leads pull out of the meter. I bought a klein meter and the leads pull out of them too, what a joke, time for a fluke.

You will have the same issues with Fluke leads too. I hear tons of complaints about their leads.

In my opinion, Fluke quality has really gone down the last few years. The people that still support Fluke are the guys with 10 year old meters, that were built much better. The current stuff is made in China, and not the Fluke you are used to. They have had many recalls since moving to China too.

Yea I do like feildpeice but there is no excuse for meter leads to not stay connected to the meter. In other words any tension and the leads pull out of the meter. I bought a klein meter and the leads pull out of them too, what a joke, time for a fluke.

I've had the same Fluke meters for 20 years now. Send them in ever few years for calibration. Cant speak for any of the new stuff.

Fieldpiece Quality? NO

I used to be a big fan of Fieldpiece. I was one of the guys who would defend them against the Flukeheads etc. But over the past few years I've had nothing but trouble with them. Three meters in about as many years. And the digital "knife" type thermometer lasts about six months if I'm lucky. I like the design but got tired of buying them so I saw that UEI makes a simiilar one for less money. It even has a magnetic back and an easier to read display. I just got it so I cant speak of it durability yet. but I'm fed up with Fieldpiece. I am very careful with my tools and always keep my meter in its case. My next meter will probably be a Fluke. Are you guys with Fluke meters satisfied with their quality?