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Originally Posted by Joe Harper

You cant get a job here??
There is something your not doing right...

I think that's a little unfair to say. How many places have I applied to so far and what positions have I applied for? I'm not even sure why you brought that up as the purpose of this thread was to find out which employers down here are union =\

Dues are the fees paid to organized criminals to run their operation.

Originally Posted by Jigjoe

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I'm more in the Orlando area but I checked out their site and they won't be taking any new apprentices until next year unfortunately.

You cant get a job here??
There is something your not doing right...

Originally Posted by Jigjoe

What are these dues that you guys speak of?

After you join and are initiated in the union you have to pay dues each month that very by local. Dues are like payment to be in the union. The good news is dues can be tax deductible at the end of the year.

What are these dues that you guys speak of?

Originally Posted by valdelocc

UA locals cant do that, there is a mandatory 6 month probation period, after the time is up they initiate you and dues kick in.
You probably were with the sheetmetal union.

Might not be by the book but they do not always go by the book. I have seen a lot of things that can't happen somehow happen.

Originally Posted by FixItRight

From what I've seen maybe not all locals but at least the one I was in they are money hungry. So if you get hired by a union company they let you in asap so you can start paying dues.

UA locals cant do that, there is a mandatory 6 month probation period, after the time is up they initiate you and dues kick in.
You probably were with the sheetmetal union.

Originally Posted by MechanicallyInclined

So what happens if the Local tells you no to an Apprenticeship, but a shop hires you as an Apprentice? In a non-R-T-W state, it would keep you from working - wouldn't it? I believe even in a non-R-T-W state, the shop still has to interview for HVACR Service guys.

In NY if a company hires you as an "apprentice" the local wont keep you from working, technically you are not consider an apprentice till you get initiated with the union and enrolled in the training program.
my local has nobody benching right now and employers are allow to hire non-union techs when the hall is unable to provide them, that's how I got in years ago.

Originally Posted by Jigjoe

Thanks guys and thanks Rob for the contact information. I contacted EMCOR and I was notified yesterday that they pulled my application from the local to review it and I would hear back from them if they were interested. I'm a little nervous due to my lack of experience in the field but, that's what the apprenticeship program is for right? I also got a letter in the mail today from local 803 to call in and schedule an interview with them. Its exactly 3 weeks away and I'm already nervous as hell about it. I don't even know if there is a test or not but that alone scares me Hopefully by then I'll hear back from EMCOR.

Don't be nervous about your lack of experience everyone has to start somewhere. As for the local having a test if you start as a first year the only test should be a high school equivalency test. But you should take that after you are in.

From what I've seen maybe not all locals but at least the one I was in they are money hungry. So if you get hired by a union company they let you in asap so you can start paying dues.

If there are no apprentice spots open, you stay in pre-apprentice limbo until a spot opens up. Right to work or not, the union can keep you out as long as they like.

So what happens if the Local tells you no to an Apprenticeship, but a shop hires you as an Apprentice? In a non-R-T-W state, it would keep you from working - wouldn't it? I believe even in a non-R-T-W state, the shop still has to interview for HVACR Service guys.

Originally Posted by MechanicallyInclined

The only way you wouldn't have to legally join the Union first, if not in the first week of employ, is in an R-T-W state.

I fixed it.

The only way you would have to legally join the Union first, if not in the first week of employ, is in an non-R-T-W state.

No problem! Good luck and let us know how it works out!

Thanks guys and thanks Rob for the contact information. I contacted EMCOR and I was notified yesterday that they pulled my application from the local to review it and I would hear back from them if they were interested. I'm a little nervous due to my lack of experience in the field but, that's what the apprenticeship program is for right? I also got a letter in the mail today from local 803 to call in and schedule an interview with them. Its exactly 3 weeks away and I'm already nervous as hell about it. I don't even know if there is a test or not but that alone scares me Hopefully by then I'll hear back from EMCOR.

Don't always listen to what you're told. I think Johnson Controls is the only national company that still lists UA positions online. I've been told by gals answering the phone at both Honeywell Building Solutions and Siemens Building Technologies to go online to check their careers page. Neither Honeywell or Siemens list their UA positions online! SMH.

No problem. Good luck. Check your e-mail.

Thanks

You may have better luck going through the local management. I could give you some more info off the radar if you put an e-mail address in your profile.