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Originally posted by swat
Don I gotta disagree with the online gaming. I know many online game players like myself and did not contemplate suicide over it. It actually in a way is a major stress reliever to be able to go home and shoot up a few imaginary ppl on the internet. Extended periods of time and all night sessions would be a better sign. Anxiety frustration and stress related to these games though is another story. Any time you have a gamer who plays a lot onlilne you really need to monitor them and how much they play as well as their behavior.

I think he was referring more to the use of time.

Originally posted by swat
Don I gotta disagree with the online gaming. I know many online game players like myself and did not contemplate suicide over it. It actually in a way is a major stress reliever to be able to go home and shoot up a few imaginary ppl on the internet. Extended periods of time and all night sessions would be a better sign. Anxiety frustration and stress related to these games though is another story. Any time you have a gamer who plays a lot onlilne you really need to monitor them and how much they play as well as their behavior.

I think with out writing a essay he said "too much time" and generalizing ones experiences and the effect on them alone is not a reason for a debate on the subject. Don is sharing Chucks thoughts and that's good enough for me.

We all here have wished we spent time on the Internet doing something more productive.

Don I gotta disagree with the online gaming. I know many online game players like myself and did not contemplate suicide over it. It actually in a way is a major stress reliever to be able to go home and shoot up a few imaginary ppl on the internet. Extended periods of time and all night sessions would be a better sign. Anxiety frustration and stress related to these games though is another story. Any time you have a gamer who plays a lot onlilne you really need to monitor them and how much they play as well as their behavior.

I had a nice long chat with Chuck yesterday, about Gavin. You know, there were no warning signs, it is very scary. There were two "problem areas" that I would like to post for the sake of other parents who may read this.

One was a high degree of frustration that Gavin felt with his math class at school. It seems he was very good in math and could do math well beyond his grade level yet the school was rigid and would not give him or allow him to be in an advanced math class so he more or less refused to do the math that they were giving him.

The other was a lot of time spent on the Internet playing online games. Maybe too much time.

At home here, both of my daughters have laptops but the only Internet connection available to them is in the kitchen. This is just so that we are around when they are "doing their homework" on the Net. However, out at the cottage, I have set up a wireless network to make the cottage more fun for them. I just did that this spring and already it has been a problem as I caught my 11 year old, in her room "doing her homework" but actually going to a chat site where the conversation (including hers) was extremely XXX. Anyway, getting off topic.

Like I said, we had a good conversation but it is a very sad situation.

The final total for the donations is $2,537.11 including the HVAC-Calc auction.

Thank you to all.

don

This could be the start of something VERY big.

I don't know but it seems this little site Don has could really become something more than it was intended. And a good thing... Go figure.
How but a cyber pat on the back Don?

Originally posted by hvac45
Chuck we wish we could have done more, there is nothing we can say to ease your pain, just know all of our prayers and thoughts are with you at this time, you have an extended family here, if you need us we are here. I am sure I speak for most everyone here. God Bless.

Very well said 45...

Chuck we wish we could have done more, there is nothing we can say to ease your pain, just know all of our prayers and thoughts are with you at this time, you have an extended family here, if you need us we are here. I am sure I speak for most everyone here. God Bless.

chucko615

Charles, please call me at 1-888-736-1101.

don

Geez you guys made me cry in a public library

I can't believe that people that only know me as a screen name and some things I've typed in the last few years, would open your hearts as you've done. I've been completely floored by all the sympathy that everyone around me have shown since this has happened.

When Gavin was born, that was the first time in my life that I understood unconditional love (where no matter what happens you still love them). All the small acts of kindness that people have shown me and my family since that terrible day has shown me the true meaning of compassion and sympathy. That is one of the few bright things to come out of this. I just wish it didn't have to come to me at such a great cost.


Jack, I'm so very sorry to hear of your loss this weekend.


Thank you so much for all that you've done for us. Charles

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Don, I just got back from my chemo treatment up in NYC for a few days. I'd like to send a check for this tragety. I meant to do it before going but wasn't up to it. I'd like to send $50. Please a tell me how to mait it in. Thanks
ed0612( Ed Cooper)

Originally posted by Don Sleeth
Okay, I am closing off the donations so that I can get it all together and sent out to Chuck. It looks like the total, including the HVAC-Calc auction will be $2,167.11. Pretty good guys! It will be a nice tax-free hunk of cash to help them in this terrible time that they are going through.

Thank you HVAC-Talkers, I am proud of you!!

don

Glad to hear it, and I hope it helps take some of stress off. This also makes me proud to be a part of such a great forum and people associated with it. Awesome!!

Okay, I am closing off the donations so that I can get it all together and sent out to Chuck. It looks like the total, including the HVAC-Calc auction will be $2,167.11. Pretty good guys! It will be a nice tax-free hunk of cash to help them in this terrible time that they are going through.

Thank you HVAC-Talkers, I am proud of you!!

don

Guys and Gals,just try to imagine, how you would be feeling and then open your heart,then your wallet ,if it's feasible.

Okay Update:

With about 2 1/2 hours to go, we have raised $1,547.11 plus at least $425 from the HVAC-Calc auction so .... NOT BAD we need a few more .... so step right up ... Click HERE



don

I think Boss fell in the lake.

We need an update here! How much is it so far? I mean.... I mean..... if we cant all get together and at least send this brother a couple of grand..... Aw geeze, Well, I'm not hanging with the quality of people I thought I was here! 'cmon owners! Throw a measly 100.00 in the ring here!

Originally posted by James 3528
I went back to make another donation but paypal is rejecting it due to system traffic. I will try again later.

James, I just donated and it seemed to go Ok.

I cannot imagine what Chuck is going thru. My thaughts and prayers go out to you and yours.

I had an e-mail asking how to make a donation.

Please click here http://www.hvac-talk.com/vbb/chuck.php

Thank You!

don

Re: Re: Sorry, I aint been around.

Originally posted by infwsdm
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didn't you just have a kid? You animal you


...I agree, it does not compare with chucks situation [/B]

Yea, but we figgered he needed a buddy. Hell, I'll be 40 before I could make another, I think it's time to just be thankfull for the 3 we got.

Very sorry to hear about that Jack. Bad week at H-Tlk.

I went back to make another donation but paypal is rejecting it due to system traffic. I will try again later.