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Originally Posted by refrtech

I forgot to mention that the Appion only weighs 21#'s . The thing literally is lighter than my everyday toolbag .

Hey man thanks for selling me a recovery machine. lol, I'm actually buying one now. you should be a salesman

how about the diablo??????????/

Appion is the only way to go

Originally Posted by Matt_M

I have the appion and love it. I also have a cps as a spare, and its the spare because I dont like it

My old YJ R-60 is the back-up... however it is NOT on the van, rather in storage. Thought about selling it... however not having a back-up seemed not wise.

Same with the TEZ-8... I have a YJ (the old one with square pump head), thought about selling it too... but kept it just in case. I also have a RobinAir vacuum... really a better pump than the YJ.

I have the appion and love it. I also have a cps as a spare, and its the spare because I dont like it

I have read a lot of good about Appion. I would Highly Recommend against buying a Yellow Jacket Recovery Machine. We go threw a good 10 per year at out shop and we are about 8 guys! The High pressure switches keep going off and then after a while, they become weak and go off for nothing.

I think we all agree the Apion sucks the most.

g5 twin

http://www.centurytool.net/MT69_CPS_..._p/cpsmt69.htm

CPS MT 69

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Originally Posted by ga-hvac-tech

I am pleased with the G-5! Former (YJ R-60) had to be carefully throttled or it would overload. This one I just set it and leave to do something else. Come back in 10 min and I am in a vacuum on the system. NICE!

Probably will get (or make) a small cooler... could bend some 1/4 CO tubing into a circle, braze on some fittings, and stick it in a bucket of water/ice.

I saw something like this in a supply house a month or so ago... did not look at it. It was around 5-6" in dia, and close to a ft tall. Anyone know of this product? THX

Bought the cooler, it is from CPS products, the MT-69. Run the recovered refrigerant through it before the storage cylinder... put the cooler in a bucket of water. Recovery is FAST!!!

The subcooler is a PROSET MT69, works good but you can make your own for less. I still find it easier to drag a hose and just cool my tanks that way. Even with that extra time, I still can pull down a stystem in less time than my CPS can. Only thing I miss is my CPS shut off automatically when it reached 10"HG.

I think the subcooler sits in a bucket of water? thats how complex it is. I use the G5, you can recover 50lbs in less than an hour and a half with the schraders in on a 100F day on a rooftop. That thing is rock solid, and i'm sure the subcooler saves even more time.

Been using appion for few years works great

For anyone who doubts the Appion being one of the best portables out there...

Friday last, I was working on the charge of a 1,000 ton centrifugal. Brought the machine up to 30 psi. vapor and left it over the weekend. Monday I pushed somewhere in the neighborhood of 2,100 pounds (remaining charge) into the chiller. Pretty much the G5 ran for about 8hrs. strait, except for the time changing out the recovery vessels.

I had the machine set up as push/pull so it wasn't actually running all that refrigerant throught it, but it did keep the #1,000lb. recovery vessels at enough pressure to keep the liquid flowing. Normally I'd be using the pumpout unit but the electricians hadn't gotten around to powering it up yet.

Been through many recovery machines... AEG (heavy around 80lbs.), some little blue box that weighed about 8lbs. with a 1/5hpcompressor inside it, OZ saver's, ProMax's, Inficon's (different sizes), Yellow Jacket's (puuleeeze), home made units, and Appion's. The Appion unit has been the most reliable and the easiest to repair.

...Ron

I bought a new yellowjacket xlt used it a few times and love it..was gonna go with a appion but got a great price on the richie since i bought a 7cfm vaccum pump at the same time

We have tried just about every machine on the market and for now we are standardizing around the Appion due to the fact that the bearings are not inside the acidic refrigerant flow.
We have had almost new machines seize after recovering a really acidic burnout. Our machines each get 15 hours a week easily.

Appion Unit

Company switched over from ProMax units to the Appion. Besides the overall size and weight, the Appion out performed my ProMax start to finish. Promax is my newest addition to crap in my cellar.

I saw the same thing at United.

I am pleased with the G-5! Former (YJ R-60) had to be carefully throttled or it would overload. This one I just set it and leave to do something else. Come back in 10 min and I am in a vacuum on the system. NICE!

Probably will get (or make) a small cooler... could bend some 1/4 CO tubing into a circle, braze on some fittings, and stick it in a bucket of water/ice.

I saw something like this in a supply house a month or so ago... did not look at it. It was around 5-6" in dia, and close to a ft tall. Anyone know of this product? THX

I just used my new G5 twin today and was impressed by it's speed,light weight and how quiet it was. I too have been cooling my tanks since the beginning.