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  • 10-07-2012, 10:49 PM
    jimmyed
    Quote Originally Posted by JKopp View Post
    If you pull good vacs and practice good workmanship it may not mater where the drier goes. I have been doing HVAC 35 years and I am still learning and doing what I learn. I have also had many outdoor filter driers rust out including suction accumulators.
    Yeah them damn things are a guaranteed leak at some point...
  • 10-07-2012, 10:32 PM
    carmon
    no salt in Canada ....driers never rust out.....
  • 10-07-2012, 10:31 PM
    JKopp
    If you pull good vacs and practice good workmanship it may not mater where the drier goes. I have been doing HVAC 35 years and I am still learning and doing what I learn. I have also had many outdoor filter driers rust out including suction accumulators.
  • 10-07-2012, 10:08 PM
    carmon
    never had one rust out..... have had a couple of expansion valves rust out .... no salt in the air here it freezes....lol
  • 10-07-2012, 10:04 PM
    jimmyed
    30 years and you haven't had a drier rust out and leak? I had several of them this summer.
  • 10-07-2012, 09:57 PM
    carmon
    Quote Originally Posted by JKopp View Post
    Sportland Heat Pump filter drier:
    The drier may be installed in any position – vertical or horizontal
    – and with feed in either direction. Where possible, the horizontal
    position is preferred.


    Catch-All Filter-Driers are most effective in the liquid line. Place the
    filter-drier immediately ahead of other liquid line controls, such as the
    thermostatic expansion valve, solenoid valve, and See•All Moisture &
    Liquid Indicator. When applied in this way, the Catch-All provides
    maximum protection for the expansion valve and solenoid valve from
    dirt that may be in the system. If the system contains appreciable
    moisture, then this location gives the best results in protecting the
    expansion valve from freeze-up. If possible, place the filter-drier in a
    cold location. The acid removal ability of the Catch-All Filter-Drier is
    the same whether it is installed in the liquid line or suction line. End:

    Note they say to place the drier in a cold location, do you know why? This is a better environment for the drier to retain the moisture it has collected. By heating up the drier it can cause it to release the moisture it has collected. Having the drier outside in the sun is not a good location.

    Best practice:
    Place Heat Pump filter driers horizontal.
    Place all liquid line filter driers indoors just before the TXV in a cool indoor environment. "If possible, place the filter-drier in a
    cold location."
    my 30 years in the trade says I do not agree.... i have never had a problem..... and I actually installed a drier inside the other day just to say I had done it .... guess what ...it worked like the thousands of other installs I have done...
  • 10-07-2012, 08:56 PM
    mcs3677
    Real neat.. I have always put the drier near the evap as well.. nice job!
  • 10-07-2012, 08:52 PM
    mcs3677
    nice install. real neat..I like it..
  • 10-07-2012, 08:44 PM
    JKopp
    Sportland Heat Pump filter drier:
    The drier may be installed in any position – vertical or horizontal
    – and with feed in either direction. Where possible, the horizontal
    position is preferred.


    Catch-All Filter-Driers are most effective in the liquid line. Place the
    filter-drier immediately ahead of other liquid line controls, such as the
    thermostatic expansion valve, solenoid valve, and See•All Moisture &
    Liquid Indicator. When applied in this way, the Catch-All provides
    maximum protection for the expansion valve and solenoid valve from
    dirt that may be in the system. If the system contains appreciable
    moisture, then this location gives the best results in protecting the
    expansion valve from freeze-up. If possible, place the filter-drier in a
    cold location. The acid removal ability of the Catch-All Filter-Drier is
    the same whether it is installed in the liquid line or suction line. End:

    Note they say to place the drier in a cold location, do you know why? This is a better environment for the drier to retain the moisture it has collected. By heating up the drier it can cause it to release the moisture it has collected. Having the drier outside in the sun is not a good location.

    Best practice:
    Place Heat Pump filter driers horizontal.
    Place all liquid line filter driers indoors just before the TXV in a cool indoor environment. "If possible, place the filter-drier in a
    cold location."
  • 10-07-2012, 07:32 PM
    carmon
    oh man...here we go...... does it really matter...i do not think so....
  • 10-07-2012, 06:47 PM
    JKopp
    They actually (manufactures) prefer them to be horizontally installed.
  • 10-07-2012, 03:32 PM
    71CHOPS
    I didn't say they "had" to be......they are supposed to be.
  • 10-07-2012, 11:02 AM
    carmon
    dries do not have to be installed vertically..... where is this info from...... and yes great work well done...
  • 10-07-2012, 10:31 AM
    71CHOPS
    Quote Originally Posted by cavalieri85 View Post
    so it doesnt rust out and leak!!!! and the closer to the txv the better any crud that could be in the lines from assembly will go into the drier not the txv
    not only that, but alot of times it's easier to get to inside if you have to change it in the future. and driers are supposed to be installed vertically, so they don't trap oil in the canister.....makes that easier too.

    nice install!
  • 10-06-2012, 11:10 PM
    jimmyed
    No, I don't use mastic unless it is in a crawl or attic. Furnace and both supply and return duct are in the same conditioned space. Doesn't matter.

    Quote Originally Posted by tedkidd View Post
    Nice looking tin too.

    These shots before you slathered it with mastic?



    Hmmm...
  • 10-06-2012, 09:03 PM
    jpb2
    Looks nice
  • 10-06-2012, 09:00 PM
    jpb2
    closer to the evap. Thats where it belongs
  • 10-06-2012, 08:00 PM
    tedkidd
    Quote Originally Posted by hvac wiz 79 View Post
    typically from the installs i have seen with it inside it looks like sh!t but this, i.m.o. actually looks good
    Nice looking tin too.

    These shots before you slathered it with mastic?

    Quote Originally Posted by JKopp View Post
    Combining the coil and fau drain without a trap and vent for the coil puts a positive pressure in the fau drain line when the blower is running.
    Hmmm...
  • 10-06-2012, 06:30 PM
    cavalieri85
    Quote Originally Posted by carmon View Post
    why on earth do guys install the drier inside.... it looks bad...... put it outside.. ..
    so it doesnt rust out and leak!!!! and the closer to the txv the better any crud that could be in the lines from assembly will go into the drier not the txv
  • 10-02-2012, 03:53 PM
    nsula_country
    Very nice install.

    +1 on the forming of the lineset. Very clean looking.

    As for the condensate float, the inspector flagged my 1st floor unit (downdraft) for not having a coil pan float... Upstairs unit is in the attic and has a secondary float switch. Inspectors vary in what they deem code. Otherwise, AWESOME install.

    CT
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