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Originally posted by madeinusa
Let it go hit NO again, then we won’t need any more evidence for reasons not to waste the tax payer’s money to rebuild it after it wipes out the levees again.

I got the levees part right, and wasn’t to far off on the direct hit.

I think the smart would have been out before a government told them to leave.

The stupid shall be punished.

Gridlock

No, does not take much gumption to make the call the day before. That is what Nagin did.

it doesn't take a rocket scientist to make an evacuation 'call'.

Its finally going north, so looks like I was crying wolf about evacuating Corpus Christi

Good call made in Galveston by the mayor, lesson learned from New Orleans.

Originally posted by Carnak
Little over two days to impact, who should be evacuating now?

Everyone!

Car, the word from the Corp of Engineers is that they estimate that the levees can only stand up to 6" of rain or a 10 to 12 foot tidal surge.

Will she make the turn for NO tonight?

You forgot the rest of it icemiester

"HURRICANE FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 70 MILES FROM THE CENTER...AND TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 175 MILES.

PRESSURE HAS BEEN FALLING RAPIDLY DURING THE DAY AND THE LATEST MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE RECENTLY REPORTED BY AN AIR FORCE RECONNAISSANCE PLANE WAS 914 MB...26.99 INCHES.

TIDES ARE CURRENTLY RUNNING NEAR NORMAL ALONG THE MISSISSIPPI AND LOUISIANA COASTS IN THE AREAS AFFECTED BY KATRINA. TIDES IN THOSE AREAS WILL INCREASE UP TO 3 TO 4 FEET OVER THE NEXT 24 HOURS WITH LARGE WAVES ON TOP AND RESIDENTS THERE COULD EXPERIENCE FLOODING."

I wonder if Lake Ponchatrain is tidal? What happens if this lake goes up another 4'? City fill up again?

Rita is now a solid Cat 5.........

HURRICANE RITA TROPICAL CYCLONE UPDATE
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
255 PM CDT WED SEP 21 2005

DATA FROM RECONNAISSANCE AIRCRAFT INDICATE THAT RITA HAS REACHED
CATEGORY FIVE INTENSITY WITH ESTIMATED MAXIMUM SUSTAINED SURFACE
WINDS OF 165 MPH. THIS WILL BE REFLECTED IN THE 4 PM CDT ADVISORY.

Hurricane watches have been posted for the entire gulf coast of Texas into western Louisiana. This means hurricane force winds may be expected in 36 hours. I heard a report that Texas emergency preparedness planning studies have indicated it will take 33 hours to evacute everyone fron the coast.

[Edited by icemeister on 09-21-2005 at 05:28 PM]

The whole point of this thread is for all the armchair experts to give an opinion as to what do due ahead of time with close to 5 days of warning and not point fingers after the fact.

I believe seeing what has happend with Katrina has some areas getting the ball moving a lot earlier than normal.

I took a Cat 5 hit and one of the last things I did before the hit was to get my vehicles on the highest ground I could.

I had one small window of opportunity to evacuate and I foolishly passed as it was forecast to miss by over 100 miles to the NE. Was supposed to be this big turn to the North that never happened.

Little over two days to impact, who should be evacuating now?

Could have been.

The question remains. Why are those busses flooded out in their time of usefullness?

Both of those photos could be courtesy of Nagin.

Compare Houston to N'Orleans

Houston



Courtesy of Mayor Bill White

New Orleans



Courtesy of Mayor Ray Nagin

As of an hour ago.............

"DATA FROM RECONNAISSANCE AIRCRAFT INDICATE THAT RITA HAS INTENSIFIED A LITTLE MORE AND WINDS HAVE REACHED 150 MPH WINDS WITH A MINIMUM PRESSURE OF 920 MB. THIS MAKES RITA A STRONG CATEGORY FOUR HURRICANE."

Originally posted by Carnak
Rita is not looking so lovely anymore, still not a monster but the winds are spreading out farther. To qoute the 5PM NOAA advisory

"HURRICANE FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 45 MILES... 75 KM...
FROM THE CENTER...AND TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP
TO 140 MILES...220 KM"

Clock's ticking, get up tomorrow morning and less than 72 hours left, could be Cat4.

Now they are saying its 135 mph, Cat 4

Pack your stuff

Anything you do not want to lose and get the hell out.



That is the advice I gave my son in Houston.

And that is what I would tell anyone else who might be in the path. No one can protect you , nor can they stop it . Don't expect someone else to take care of you.

Clock is ticking, maybe 72 hours out now, come on someone, have some balls make a call, what needs to be done?