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Impact has more torque and is faster on installs. The only thing the m12 has a problem with is the 7/8" spin bit Swage

until I got my first impact. I was thinking what was the point of them. Now I cant see how installers can live without one

Dewalt !2V impact lives in the Veto. I have its big brother in the van if I need it. Impact just runs screws in with less effort compared to a drill and is lighter/smaller. Love the 12v for service work and light installing.

I've got a porter cable 18v drill that I rarely use and my m12 drill/driver I use for just about everything.

Originally Posted by arsco

I run two sets

Bosh, 12V. small as can be non impact. love it for service work. the impact is good not great

I also have a DeWalt 12 volt set that I love but its just a bit too big for my service bag. (Veto closed top) but the fast recharge is great

I have the Bosch 12 volt set also. I keep the impact in my tool pouch when doing service. It's a awesome driver. It seems like it would do just fine on a residential install too.


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I run two sets

Bosh, 12V. small as can be non impact. love it for service work. the impact is good not great

I also have a DeWalt 12 volt set that I love but its just a bit too big for my service bag. (Veto closed top) but the fast recharge is great

Originally Posted by jtrammel

I've never used an impact for install work, does it really work any better than a regular drill?

I think so... especially doing sheet metal work (driving screws).

I can't imagine doing install work without an impact

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I've never used an impact for install work, does it really work any better than a regular drill?

Originally Posted by asm3686

It helps in being shorter and lighter than the regular drill. And typically more RPMs than a regular drill which starts the screws easier in my experience. And the impact feature doesn't do much but to me it tells me when the screw is tight...

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IMO...
The impact feature helps increase torque, while lowering the possibility one will strip out the screw (except for certain cabinets... grin).

Originally Posted by corny

I dont see how an impact helps in drilling in hvac type screws..... the sharp pointed ones, the drill points or even the heavy tek 5 or whatever screws.

I saw some of our guys using impacts to screw on ductmate one day and they said the screws were poor quality or something...... I got my regular dewalt drill out and I put in some screws with no problems whatsover.

How does the impact feature help ??? I could see it being helpful for removing rusted or stuck fasteners but I just dont see the advantage in putting in new fasteners...

It helps in being shorter and lighter than the regular drill. And typically more RPMs than a regular drill which starts the screws easier in my experience. And the impact feature doesn't do much but to me it tells me when the screw is tight...

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Originally Posted by asm3686

That's awesome! I don't plan on getting rid of the m18 stuff but just want something smaller and lighter for all those not so pleasant places. Like I said it will basically be used driving 1/2-1in saber point screws sometimes some 5/16 bit tip and the 2in screws for grills and registers.

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I dont see how an impact helps in drilling in hvac type screws..... the sharp pointed ones, the drill points or even the heavy tek 5 or whatever screws.

I saw some of our guys using impacts to screw on ductmate one day and they said the screws were poor quality or something...... I got my regular dewalt drill out and I put in some screws with no problems whatsover.

How does the impact feature help ??? I could see it being helpful for removing rusted or stuck fasteners but I just dont see the advantage in putting in new fasteners...

I have the m12 and i Have beaten the living hell out of the thing. I am so impressed with it, that I will not even entertain the idea of getting anything but another Milwaukee.

Well today was the first day of install use for my new m12 fuel impact. I framed and installed 3 returns and strapped up a house full of flex 24 runs. And helped my coworker hang roughly 60ft of rect duct hanging every 4ft and used the 2.0 battery today and it is still reading 1/2 charge I could not be more impressed with the battery life or the power I didn't at any moment feel like I needed the m18 impact

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Originally Posted by asm3686

Well I want to thank you guys for the advice I just ordered the m12 fuel impact and a 4.0 battery should get to try it out by end of next week. Not sold locally for me.

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That 4 amp battery will run all day.

I use the 2 amp battery in all my M12 tools except the sawzall and buzz tool (multi-tool).

Well I want to thank you guys for the advice I just ordered the m12 fuel impact and a 4.0 battery should get to try it out by end of next week. Not sold locally for me.

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That is the same makita kit I have. ITN has become my around the house kit.

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I bought an M12 'fuel' impact about a mos ago... it is great! Sometimes it seems to bog down just a bit... but does get the job done. And it is 2 speed... something not found on many impacts.

I was using the black/white 18V Makita (?) before, they are lighter than the green 18V... yet the batteries do not last long. The 18V has all the strength necessary to do whatever I want it to.

My 60 year old wrists and hands appreciate light...

As JP noted: The M12 stays in my VETO...

I've got a hitachi 12v impactor angle drill.
Been using it for years, install end and service end.
Even can power through spiral with a vari bit.

Get out the dewalt 18v hammerdrill for anything that it can't handle.

I use the m12 all the time and love it. At first I was only going to use it for service but now I use it for everything except for hole saws and the like. The battery lasts a long time and I'm still surprised with how much power it had for such a small drill.