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Originally Posted by Belite

Hey troubletime, They are starting to becuase i called Hamilton location and a Lowes in Toronto, and they said it just went off the shelves today due to law and complaints.

I don't get to Lowes often I am going there later this week and will find out if they still have it. It was there on Saturday.

None on the shelf here today.

Originally Posted by trouble time

Yea, about that, it is still being sold at Lowes in Ontario. I was at Lowes yesterday and it is on the shelves. I was told by the associate in that department that when you buy it you have to say you are certified to install it.
Lets hope they get it off the shelves before a house goes up in flames....

Hey troubletime, They are starting to becuase i called Hamilton location and a Lowes in Toronto, and they said it just went off the shelves today due to law and complaints.

Originally Posted by Belite

In Canada it has been banned to sell at Lowes, I just found this out lol. they Lasted a whole 2 months here

Yea, about that, it is still being sold at Lowes in Ontario. I was at Lowes yesterday and it is on the shelves. I was told by the associate in that department that when you buy it you have to say you are certified to install it.
Lets hope they get it off the shelves before a house goes up in flames....

In Canada it has been banned to sell at Lowes, I just found this out lol. they Lasted a whole 2 months here

Originally Posted by Chris_Worthington

Belite,

is it crap or what? you seem to be in the know

To be honest, no i dont think its crap. There is alot involved in the process in making Csst. I believe it is far from crap and it is actually a very safe and tested product, Alot of people complain that hacks use it, which could be true but this doesnt mean that if someone makes it look like crap...you cant make it look good. I have done installations and they looked very straight and professional..I think its a great product some people just like to jump on the bandwagon. There is nothing wrong with saving time on installation, and the time you save, you can use a little bit of that to neaten up the project and make it look good!

As for it selling at Lowes and Menards the way they do should definitely be banned. Only a licensed gas technician + certificate of training should have this. PEX is different its water, but when it comes to GAS its just plain stupidity.

Originally Posted by maniak

Our inspectors put us through the ringer whenever we use this junk anyways, way too many rules. I've been using iron on most jobs again for the past couple years.

I'm glad we do mostly commercial industrial now so I don't have to compete with DIY so much anymore.

Belite,

is it crap or what? you seem to be in the know

hey rich i sent you an email, please reply back i got a question to ask you.

Originally Posted by Belite

LOL! hasnt Menards been selling this since 04-05? The price is good compared to other brands, but this shows that this company is stupid and even with there price, hungry for money. In Canada this is only sold from the supply house, NEVER seen it in lowes or anywhere else thank god. Someone should get this banned from lowes and menards. I called menards and i asked them do i need a gas license or certificate and the guy laughed at me and said no. This is terrible, there is no reason anyone should be able to buy this or even know about it if there not in the trade.

It's in Lowes out here.

LOL! hasnt Menards been selling this since 04-05? The price is good compared to other brands, but this shows that this company is stupid and even with there price, hungry for money. In Canada this is only sold from the supply house, NEVER seen it in lowes or anywhere else thank god. Someone should get this banned from lowes and menards. I called menards and i asked them do i need a gas license or certificate and the guy laughed at me and said no. This is terrible, there is no reason anyone should be able to buy this or even know about it if there not in the trade.

Our inspectors put us through the ringer whenever we use this junk anyways, way too many rules. I've been using iron on most jobs again for the past couple years.

I'm glad we do mostly commercial industrial now so I don't have to compete with DIY so much anymore.

This gives new meaning to the phrase "go gas, go boom".

Had a call a couple months ago the HO smelled gas. Went over and checked it out-he had run his own gas line with csst he purchased from Menards to a new gas range. He purchased a 25 ft coil and just put ends on it. The run was only about 8 ft. He just coiled the excess in the floor joists. Surprisingly the csst ends were not leaking. He did not use any type of thread sealant on the male pipe ends.

internet sale

Anyone can purchase an ac off the internet with refer in it .... Same difference here .....

Originally Posted by mbhydro

There was a thread about this subject on another forum back in May and the pipe fitters there were not happy about it either.

From what was posted on that site according to the manufacture of the pipe is a DYI is allowed to buy the fittings but if they go to buy the pipe a flag is suppose to come up on the till prompting the cashier to ask for a certificate. Not sure what good the fittings are without the pipe.

Apparently 90% of all retail sales are to pros according to the manufacture's spokesperson.

thats just dumb. you dont take the class to learn how to run the pipe, you take it to learn how to use the fittings. it should be just the opposite. if the ho wants to buy and run the pipe thats fine as long as they can't purchase the fittings. if this happens i will just sell the fittings for $18 each.
i think that 90% number is just because ho's don't know they can buy this product. it drives me crazy when i start using a good product and then find it at a big box store.

Originally Posted by mbhydro

There was a thread about this subject on another forum back in May and the pipe fitters there were not happy about it either.

From what was posted on that site according to the manufacture of the pipe is a DYI is allowed to buy the fittings but if they go to buy the pipe a flag is suppose to come up on the till prompting the cashier to ask for a certificate. Not sure what good the fittings are without the pipe.

Apparently 90% of all retail sales are to pros according to the manufacture's spokesperson.

next time I am in Lowes I will see if they have it and if they do test the process.

It's just like stringing coax isn't it?

There was a thread about this subject on another forum back in May and the pipe fitters there were not happy about it either.

From what was posted on that site according to the manufacture of the pipe is a DYI is allowed to buy the fittings but if they go to buy the pipe a flag is suppose to come up on the till prompting the cashier to ask for a certificate. Not sure what good the fittings are without the pipe.

Apparently 90% of all retail sales are to pros according to the manufacture's spokesperson.

strange..i NEED to show my cert card to buy it at the supply house...
guess the big boxes dont require certs ????

I've seen this at Mendards, and I was thinking the wrong person gets ahold of this.. oh boy..

Home Depot don't have this.