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Originally posted by Yuma
The Saga continues...........(and NEEDLESS Name calling)

To try to answer the first post with out EXTREME opinions.

I own a HS-35 and (at lest in high heat) the batteries has lasted over a year. I have two co-workers who own the HS-36 and no problems.
Yes the meter jumps alot in AUTO Ranging. If that's a problem just set the range to manual.

Yuma,

A Proud owner and user of Fieldpiece meters, and user of leak search DYES.
IN SPITE of other opinions...

Wow, you really keep trying to turn this away from the real issue, and drag up the dye fight, dontcha?

Just remember, while you're screwing around trying to inject that dye into the system, that noise you hear is my torch fixing that leak.

Re: Condenseddave :

Originally posted by dna
I bought a SC67 a year ago and have not had any problems with it. It has been a great clamp-on for the work that I do. For the life of me, I cannot understand why you hate the brand so much.......you almost seem like you have a vendetta against FP. I know people that have bought Fluke, Amprobe and other "top shelf" brands and been dissatified. If the meter works everytime, is accurate and dependable, its a good meter........'nuff said.

The ONLY way that someone could buy a "top shelf" meter and be dissatisfied, is because they couldn't understand how to use it properly.

The Fluke meters are often a bit more complex than the other meters, and a LOT of guys that don't have a solid grasp of basic and intermediate electricity WILL have difficulties using some of the features on them.

My distaste for Fieldpiece and their trashy products and trashier marketing are well documented here. Vendetta? OK, sounds fine, I'll agree to that. I long for the days when good equipment was all that as available, and the technicians that were using those test instruments were able to interpret the readings and measurements. I feel companies like Fieldpiece, UEI, TIF, etal have dumbed down our entire industry by selling toys as tools, and using dog & pony sho marketing and bell & whistle features to lure unsuspecting techs to waste their money on junk, rather than safe, high quality tools that don't shimmy and sparkle.

Clear? Or need I elaborate further?

It's all been said before, and I AM simply repeating myself at this point. This site has a search feature. Enter fieldpiece and enjoy.

Originally posted by service guy
I use Field Piece every day it's not a bad meter, I use the field peice for just everyday work Amps,volts,Ohms I thought why beat up my fluke meters? When I do trouble shooting and controls work I break out the fluke meters I feel more comfortable with fluke on my side!! I watched a Fluke Cd my dad gave me It showed how the other brands would blow up in your hand as were fluke just blew the Fuse And lets face facts Our main Objective at the end of our day is get home to our families in one piece that said spend the dough for a Fluke.

Another excellent point. We haven't heard anything back about the CATIII ratings on fieldpiece, have we???

Originally posted by markwolf

Originally posted by condenseddave
Remember, you can get the Fluke HVAC combo kit for under 200 bucks.

That's the Fluke 16, which has temperature, and capacitance, in addition to standard DVM meters, and the Fluke 322 clamp DMM. A GOOD, high quality set of leads and a case for the hole outfit.

Like the Fielpiece OEM leads? Didn't think so.

Geez dave I have the original 15? year old leads on my fieldpiece,I have the extra long probes & have bent them on accident a multitude of times.Hell I stepped on one today & bent it on a 90 deg angle.I bent it back & it is ok.

Yeah, and at < 40°F, you can hold the 4' leads straight out, and stay 4' away from the circuit!!!!!

Nice feature.

Pick up a set of $40.00 Fluke leads once. Then tell me which one is better.

Originally posted by markwolf
Most of the guys I have seen complain about fieldpiece meters just plain old didn't understand how to use the functions.I do not think you fit in that category.

What's not to understand on them? A 3 year old could troubleshoot a PLC with one, according to THEM!

Originally posted by markwolf
[What left such a bad taste in your mouth for them?

Jesus, Mark, read the threads!

Originally posted by markwolf
[I like mine most of the time my fluke meters sit in my truck & I use the field piece.The only time I ever get the flukes out is when I have to monitor multiple inputs at the same time.(It is commical to see a guy with four meters hooked up to one machine at a time but it does happen on rare occasions lol)

[Edited by markwolf on 01-20-2005 at 12:59 AM]

Well, I can't personally see owning a high quality meter, then not using it, simply because there is a cheaper one around that you're not afraid to beat on.

My 189 and 54 go in to every single job with me, bouncing around in the bag. I'm not gonna drag around my old 8025A simply because the 189 was expensive....

I use Field Piece every day it's not a bad meter, I use the field peice for just everyday work Amps,volts,Ohms I thought why beat up my fluke meters? When I do trouble shooting and controls work I break out the fluke meters I feel more comfortable with fluke on my side!! I watched a Fluke Cd my dad gave me It showed how the other brands would blow up in your hand as were fluke just blew the Fuse And lets face facts Our main Objective at the end of our day is get home to our families in one piece that said spend the dough for a Fluke.

field piece users

never leave home with out it,best damn meter for the buck,also use fluke.

The Saga continues...........(and NEEDLESS Name calling)

To try to answer the first post with out EXTREME opinions.

I own a HS-35 and (at lest in high heat) the batteries has lasted over a year. I have two co-workers who own the HS-36 and no problems.
Yes the meter jumps alot in AUTO Ranging. If that's a problem just set the range to manual.

Yuma,

A Proud owner and user of Fieldpiece meters, and user of leak search DYES.
IN SPITE of other opinions...

You really appreciate the "stick type" fieldpiece meter with the magnet (HS35) when you are installing 50-100 electric meters on a panel and you have to wiggy out every socket. I love'em

Originally posted by condenseddave
Remember, you can get the Fluke HVAC combo kit for under 200 bucks.

That's the Fluke 16, which has temperature, and capacitance, in addition to standard DVM meters, and the Fluke 322 clamp DMM. A GOOD, high quality set of leads and a case for the hole outfit.

Like the Fielpiece OEM leads? Didn't think so.

Geez dave I have the original 15? year old leads on my fieldpiece,I have the extra long probes & have bent them on accident a multitude of times.Hell I stepped on one today & bent it on a 90 deg angle.I bent it back & it is ok.Most of the guys I have seen complain about fieldpiece meters just plain old didn't understand how to use the functions.I do not think you fit in that category.What left such a bad taste in your mouth for them?I like mine most of the time my fluke meters sit in my truck & I use the field piece.The only time I ever get the flukes out is when I have to monitor multiple inputs at the same time.(It is commical to see a guy with four meters hooked up to one machine at a time but it does happen on rare occasions lol)

[Edited by markwolf on 01-20-2005 at 12:59 AM]

Condenseddave :

I bought a SC67 a year ago and have not had any problems with it. It has been a great clamp-on for the work that I do. For the life of me, I cannot understand why you hate the brand so much.......you almost seem like you have a vendetta against FP. I know people that have bought Fluke, Amprobe and other "top shelf" brands and been dissatified. If the meter works everytime, is accurate and dependable, its a good meter........'nuff said.

Remember, you can get the Fluke HVAC combo kit for under 200 bucks.

That's the Fluke 16, which has temperature, and capacitance, in addition to standard DVM meters, and the Fluke 322 clamp DMM. A GOOD, high quality set of leads and a case for the hole outfit.

Like the Fielpiece OEM leads? Didn't think so.

Originally posted by condenseddave
I'd buy a new Amprobe meter long before I'd buy fieldpiece.

I still have an Amprobe ACD-10 that I got 13 years ago when i first started going to school. It is in my automotive tool box now though. I actually replaced it with an early fieldpiece stick meeter with a clamp head. I replaced the Fieldpiece with a Fluke 77 and Fluke 30 within a month, and threw the Fieldpiece in the trash, it was total garbage.
I still have that Amprobe though...

I think Fieldpiece does have a place though. It is cheep enough that someone that is just starting out can get a decent setup to do the job. Then they can work on building up a good set of quality test instruments over a few years, and keep the Fieldpiece stuff as backups.

Originally posted by cde72
Man all this is crazy... Stop trashing Fieldpiece... If you want low end crap go with meterman, amprobe, craftsman, or the like...

What's crazy is trying to group a piece of shit manufacturer like fieldpiece with Fluke. Again, we're not talking Ford and Chevy, we're talking Yugo (Fieldpiece) and Cadillac (Fluke). Hell, I'd buy a new Amprobe meter long before I'd buy fieldpiece.

I bought a fieldpiece SC76 back in November, so far it's been good to me. I'll keep you posted as I use it more, but so far, no complaints.

(Hey, for a 1st year apprentice's limited budget, it seemed the best bang for the buck)

I bought a Fieldpiece SC76 for the simple fact that it does the job I need it to do. I didn't buy it for the accessory heads option. I think that's worthless. I'll buy the appropriate tool for the job it does. I can't say people don't buy these meters with loving the option of the heads...but,

I wouldn't buy a hammer with a lawnmower accessory head. They make a specific tool for it's specific purpose.

Man all this is crazy... Stop trashing Fieldpiece... If you want low end crap go with meterman, amprobe, craftsman, or the like...

i don't agree with the negative remarks about fieldpiece at all. i own a fieldpiece hs32 and a fluke 322. i have never had any problems with either. i acually like the fieldpiece alittle better because of the attachments. oh and by-the-way my hs32 was far from cheap or low-end and measures to 200 vdc.

I have fieldpiece,fluke,sperry,uei,& extech meters.I am that tool nut that has four times the tools as the other guys at the shop.I use & like the fieldpiece meter that I have every day for the last 15 years.It has fallen off ladders,taken abuse/misused when loaned to a friend,etc.My battery lasts about a year.personally I think just the bare bones meter is a good meter but you can keep all the gadgets.

See, it's like this.

Fieldpiece is really low-end, low-budget stuff that just about anybody can afford.

They offer up a bunch of shiny, fancy-looking attachments, and use smoke and mirrors to market them, but they lack in qualities and certifications, unlike their competitors, who have spent decades (literally) and hundreds of thousands of dollars (literally) in research and development, to ensure that the technicians that use their meters have the highest quality product available. Their prices reflect this, of course.

It's just like Dell computers. Great marketing, not such great quality or support.

Do people buy Dell? Yeah. Hell Yeah. More than IBM? Yeah. Hell yeah.

Why? People want cheap, not good.

That is the ONLY reason that Fieldpiece as able to make any inroadsz at all into this industry. They price their meters like UEI, to compete with meters that are far and above higher quality.

It's awful. The meters that they sell so cheaply contribute to the dumbing down of our trade. They make you think that if they don't make it, you don't need it.

Really, hand a tech with 5 years experience a Fluke 189 and ask him to explain each function. 9 out of 10 won't be able to.

Now, pick a group of ten year techs, hand them a pitot tube, and tell them to give you the cfm and ESP of that duct. You're gonna see a LOT of dumbass looks. Maybe one will have a clue. The other 9 would tell you that they can give you the cfm if you give them an anemometer. I'm gonna tell you that that vane anemometer isn't as accurate, and can't give you ESP, anyway. More dumbass looks.

It's sad what our industry is becoming. It's good to see instructors like the ones on this board stepping up and trying to improve it, but the sad fact of the matter is that there is a large group of techs already in the field that don't REALLY knowwhat they're doing, and are just getting by. That BLOWS.

Thanks, fieldpiece, for screwing up our industry with your imitation testers.