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Cops don't get paid enough to be treated like this, what a job.

It does suck to get a ticket. I got one @ 17 years old on Christmas day for going 40 in a 35 in a long downhill strech.

I am sure the cops could do somethig diffrent(prevent drugs,rape or murder),but we elect the officials who make these laws and they are just enforcing them.

All in all is still sucks to get caught because nearly everyone speeds.

[Edited by hvacbear on 07-11-2004 at 05:58 PM]

I'm checking out this place for a possible job position in North Carolina. So the lady sends me a couple of links to the area.

On this one site it lists what is required about wearing seat belts.


Seat Belt Laws

All drivers and front seat passengers must wear a seat belt or be in a child safety seat.

Driver is held responsible if unbuckled passenger is under 16 years of age.

Violators can be stopped by law enforcement if not buckled up.

Fine is $25.


So yo believe it? Only $25 for the fine? And only for NOT wearing them in the front seats?
Back seat not required!


What a different world!

Originally posted by frozensolid
I wonder what our "Founding Fathers" would have done If? They were told they must have a rider’s license for their horse, and the horse must be registered, and insured.

There is a fine line between public safety and personal liberty. Horses are dangerous too.

I'm quite certain that if, on his way home from a lively late-nite visit to a ladyfriend, old Ben Franklin might have evoked the now popular Dick Cheney phrase (describing an anatomically impossible maneuver) if a local constable had detained him for an unlit carriage lantern.

The newer buses in some areas around here have seat belts. It would be interesting to see the local police send a statement to another branch of the local governemnt for seat belt violations. Sounds like funny money changing accounts.
I'd like to see one of the local building inspectors condemn the municipal building hvac where the inspector's office is located. It was built with the fresh air intakes 8' above the parking lot. There's a sign on the building that says not to run your engine! 1st time there to get a permit I also noticed that the elevator license was expired, as well.

I wonder what our "Founding Fathers" would have done If? They were told they must have a rider’s license for their horse, and the horse must be registered, and insured.

There is a fine line between public safety and personal liberty. Horses are dangerous too.

School Busses

When school buses were crashed for crash testing, it was determined that children were safely restrained by the seat in front of them, and that belts didn't improve their safety. I guess small bodies + huge seat backs = You're not going anywhere.

Common Sense Reasoning here: Suppose a kindergardener doesn't buckle up on a bus. Who enforces the issue? The bus driver? What if there are 30 kids on the bus? Make all of them buckle up before you drive? Could take a while! Cops couldn't see kids in the bus seats, and even if they could, do they write a ticket to the parents? I don't see how one could enforce this law if it were ever to come to pass. Probably one reason why it hasn't.

Originally posted by swat

Originally posted by infwsdm

Originally posted by swat
No offense but your attitude sucks.

F!@# off (Calm down, I'm kidding)

You told the guy to get run over while writing the ticket.

yep F!@# him.

Do you have any idea how many times a year that happens?

Not enough?

It has happened here twice this sumer already and it is not something I would allow any one I knew to say with out a severe ass chewing and depending on who and how close I was to them an ass whoopin for being such a jerk.

So who are you?

The guy is doing his job. He does not choose the laws but merely enforces them.

A few months ago a punk kid cut me off while he was changing lanes and he was driving like a "jerk". I got pissed and instead of ramming him and beating the shit out of him, I called 911 to let them handle it. They acted like it was my fault for being on the road. And I had to call three times and finally went to the police station.

And here we have a cop pulling people over for seatbelt bullshit.


You really need to have a hell of a lot more respect for the civil servants of your community whether you like what they do or don't.


You don't get out much do you?

Man you just lost a ton of respect IMO and maybe it does not matter but God dang that is some ridiculous behavior you got there.

You're right it doesn't matter!!

I tell you what I don't consider mself the type to go around a pray and preach but some one needs to say or do somethingfor you because your mojo aint good.


Your maturity really shines through your post. I was looking forward tosome sort of repsonce on your part but rather than stooping to your level maybe I will say a prayer for you instead.

Ok, we will end it by me saying that I don't agree with pulling people over for the sole purpose of writing a seatbelt ticket and I certainly have no respect for someone trying to put a notch in his belt.

If I were speeding and got two tickets I wouldn't be bitching.

Originally posted by rob10
No, but it lessens their effect. Its sad to see a 2 year old picked up off the pavement when their parents don't buckle them down and they are ejected from a vehicle.

kids are a separate issue.

Hell, a 2 year old can get thrown into the windshield while you stop at a stop sign.

grasshopper

Your right about the helmet thing in N.C. I have worn one since I started riding because I did a lot of off road. Got my license in 69'. Sorry for the misinformation.

Re: Re: Tickets are written to generate revenue...period!

Originally posted by Diceman

Originally posted by maintenanceguy
I always wear mine but this is America and if your not hurting anyone else, you ought to be able to do what you want.

Them days are long gone.
I agree getting pulled over for that sucks, but......if ya don't wear your seatbelt you're nuts.
As far as motorcycles, well, riding one of them around is also crazy, helmet or no
Sounds like you have a real problem with authority huh?

Just because people enjoy the freedom that our country was founded on does not make them crazy or have a problem with authority.

Re: Seatbelt

Originally posted by selfemployed
Saved my life 25yrs. ago. Car traveled 360 feet after leaving the road. They weren't required then. Motorcycle helmets have always been required here.

Thats not true. There were NO motorcycle helmet laws anywhere in the country until the 70's. I know NC was around before that!!

Originally posted by infwsdm

Originally posted by swat
No offense but your attitude sucks.

F!@# off (Calm down, I'm kidding)

You told the guy to get run over while writing the ticket.

yep F!@# him.

Do you have any idea how many times a year that happens?

Not enough?

It has happened here twice this sumer already and it is not something I would allow any one I knew to say with out a severe ass chewing and depending on who and how close I was to them an ass whoopin for being such a jerk.

So who are you?

The guy is doing his job. He does not choose the laws but merely enforces them.

A few months ago a punk kid cut me off while he was changing lanes and he was driving like a "jerk". I got pissed and instead of ramming him and beating the shit out of him, I called 911 to let them handle it. They acted like it was my fault for being on the road. And I had to call three times and finally went to the police station.

And here we have a cop pulling people over for seatbelt bullshit.


You really need to have a hell of a lot more respect for the civil servants of your community whether you like what they do or don't.


You don't get out much do you?

Man you just lost a ton of respect IMO and maybe it does not matter but God dang that is some ridiculous behavior you got there.

You're right it doesn't matter!!

I tell you what I don't consider mself the type to go around a pray and preach but some one needs to say or do somethingfor you because your mojo aint good.


Your maturity really shines through your post. I was looking forward tosome sort of repsonce on your part but rather than stooping to your level maybe I will say a prayer for you instead.

Maybe it's an authority thing. Maybe they're the same ones who wouldn't eat their veggies when they were kids. Maybe they had to stay after school for disobeying the rules. Maybe there were too many rules in college, or in an office environment, so MAAAYBEEE, they became.........

Oh, gawwwwd nooooo.... HVAC men!!!!

No, but it lessens their effect. Its sad to see a 2 year old picked up off the pavement when their parents don't buckle them down and they are ejected from a vehicle.

Originally posted by arc8
For all of those who feel so strongly that the seat belt (or MC helmet) laws are excessive government intrusions into our personal rights, I am curious to know your thoughts on the government's requirements for a driver license, auto registration and liability insurance.

What about DUI laws, speed limits and headlights after dark?

What's the difference between this and licensing HVAC contractors? How far should it go? Should there be limits to any government intervention? How far should our rights go?

Hopefully,
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Not wearing seatbelts does not cause accidents.

Originally posted by swat
No offense but your attitude sucks.

F!@# off (Calm down, I'm kidding)

You told the guy to get run over while writing the ticket.

yep F!@# him.

Do you have any idea how many times a year that happens?

Not enough?

It has happened here twice this sumer already and it is not something I would allow any one I knew to say with out a severe ass chewing and depending on who and how close I was to them an ass whoopin for being such a jerk.

So who are you?

The guy is doing his job. He does not choose the laws but merely enforces them.

A few months ago a punk kid cut me off while he was changing lanes and he was driving like a "jerk". I got pissed and instead of ramming him and beating the shit out of him, I called 911 to let them handle it. They acted like it was my fault for being on the road. And I had to call three times and finally went to the police station.

And here we have a cop pulling people over for seatbelt bullshit.


You really need to have a hell of a lot more respect for the civil servants of your community whether you like what they do or don't.


You don't get out much do you?

Man you just lost a ton of respect IMO and maybe it does not matter but God dang that is some ridiculous behavior you got there.

You're right it doesn't matter!!

For all of those who feel so strongly that the seat belt (or MC helmet) laws are excessive government intrusions into our personal rights, I am curious to know your thoughts on the government's requirements for a driver license, auto registration and liability insurance.

What about DUI laws, speed limits and headlights after dark?

What's the difference between this and licensing HVAC contractors? How far should it go? Should there be limits to any government intervention? How far should our rights go?

Hopefully,
Undeleted

For all of those who feel so strongly that the seat belt (or MC helmet) laws are excessive government intrusions into our personal rights, I am curious to know your thoughts on the government's requirements for a driver license, auto registration and liability insurance.

What about DUI laws, speed limits and headlights after dark?

In my state (FL) we have no form of vehicle safety inspection and it's reported that one out of three drivers you meet on the roadway is uninsured. Now THAT concerns me as well.

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not in this section please ]

[Edited by Boss on 07-05-2004 at 01:36 PM]

I personally wear my seatbelt, but I don't like the government telling whether I should or not. That being said, its all about generating revenue. All of the local governments have been "broke" since 9/11 so they have to figure out bs ways to generate revenue. I don't have a problem with that its just the way to do it. I live it Cook County, IL and I don't know how many cops I see run red lights around here, but that really ticks me off. I was fixing my car in the parking lot about a month ago and was hassled, because it is against the law to fix my car on the public streets in this area. Now mind you I was parked on a parking lot away from traffic not bothering anyone. The only peron I could hurt was myself. I used to think it was about money, now I think the cops are just lazy and want to go after the easy crimes. I have family in the northwest side of Chicago and the drivers there are bad. Running red lights, blowing stop signs, going down the wrong way on a one way street, and speeding. It is rare that someone gets stopped for a traffic citation around here even a DUI, but parking tickets are another story. There are so many parking restrictions around here that it is very difficult to park. These tickets are not cheap. They average around $50.00 for an infraction, and yet Mayor Daley says the city is still "broke". I think that people are having less and less respect for anyone in government. This includes, city officials, cops, and judges. They all seem to be on a power kick and don't care about doing their job well at all.