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  • 03-29-2008, 02:45 AM
    oloenneker
    I don't even know if I could do this one if I tried.... I would at least need a box of some sort to hack in the returns... I guess this guy can do without. Must be alot of tape and mastic holding that mess together...

  • 03-29-2008, 12:49 AM
    acbobburk
    i bet the equipment is not an ARI matching system and is oversized by at least 25%
  • 03-25-2008, 02:57 AM
    Zeus
    I may be crossing a line here but I'm going to anyway. A number of members have mentioned that this gives not only the manufacturer a bad name but also the industry. This kind of crap does nothing to help the perception people have of an hvac tech. When you guys see something like this that is so obviously wrong why don't you drop an email to the licensing department or someone else with authority? Some of the stuff i have personally seen and even some of the pics on here are bad but oh well. This one is huge! We are talking big bucks and it hopefully is not too late to get it fixed. I don't know, just seems wrong to allow it. If this is install stands as is and a year later the customer calls in a company for an opinion that includeds a total rework of a brand new system, what is going to go through the customers mind. Are they going to think you are trying to rip them off or will they realize that has already happened and your there to help correct the mess. There are times when people like this need to be tossed under the bus, this is definately one of them.
  • 03-25-2008, 02:29 AM
    MadeinUSA
    In the second picture, you have to love that run where it is pinched at the top plate before it runs along the roof line.

    QC at it’s best.

    These manufacturers could give a flip about jobs like this. The contractor receiving recognition is for boxes moved, not quality of job. And the contractors use these rewards to brainwash the public in their ads they are good based on manufacturer rewards and recognition they receive. Can you say consumer fraud.
  • 03-23-2008, 04:36 PM
    Airmechanical

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    atleast they used mastic



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  • 03-22-2008, 10:24 PM
    fishindad
    Iguess i get to sell a duct system in a few years! I think I will go to a nice spagetti diner first befor the inspector get their. ever herd of a d-box
  • 03-21-2008, 11:20 PM
    jddilligaff37
    air don't care !!
    i can't believe the first r.a pic they had all the room they needed why? oval it out .I assume this a high $ home ? how can they stay in business or even sleep at night (hacks). was it inspected ? it looks like a cluster**** to me and i would hate to be called out there. contractors always put in janajunk or similar and have a good duct system this is reverse good system not being used to its full capacity due to poor air flow how could you balance it
  • 03-20-2008, 08:58 PM
    yorkguy
    That kind of crap goes on here a lot. A lot of builders just want the lowest price, don't give a rats you know what about your quality service or good work. I can hardly compete in new construction for builders anymore especially the way the housing market has tanked. The hacks are taking it all over with their low ball bids and wrecking the industry for everyone else. If that's the kind of work they want they can have it as far as I'm concerned. Don't ask me to do it thay way though. You get what you pay for.
  • 03-19-2008, 08:41 PM
    ldmth44
    That's just f***ing ridiculous!!!
  • 03-17-2008, 10:04 PM
    papa_jo
    LAST company i worked for did an awful lot of homes that way- ductboard square box and run the hell out of flex- I hope you noticed I said LAST company- got my own lics. now and do my own gig. .
  • 03-17-2008, 09:52 PM
    DrumCrazy
    "I'm sure Carrier, or any manufacturer for that matter, would like to see what's being done with they're equipment."
    The manufacturer could give a crap less what it looks like. As stated earlier the very installer of this fine abortion was made dealer of the year. That's almost as entertaining as the bag of hammers salesman who came into my office and said the Lowes and Home Depot crap is good for everyone because of brand recognition. My brand is me and my company and I am loyal to my customers and myself and the customers install what I recommend. The big brands think we are unable to think for ourselves. They need to realize that we are the purchasers-- not the homeowners. Whew!!! I can breathe now.
  • 03-17-2008, 05:57 PM
    tunnel_rat
    Just stunning.....
  • 03-16-2008, 11:54 PM
    vancehvac
    Oh man!! That is awesome.

    They'll be singing the low bidder blues for years to come!!
  • 03-15-2008, 08:27 AM
    aircooled53
    Quote Originally Posted by beachtech View Post
    was it whistling dixie
    Oh Suzanna ,O don't you cry foe me cause
    my Carrier man aircooled is going to design you on one knee.
  • 03-14-2008, 10:49 PM
    beachtech
    Quote Originally Posted by aircooled53 View Post
    First off that gives Carrier a bad name with that hackstream duct system.

    A bunch new construction hackers goes on here in Texas,I have had to measure and re-design several homes in Colleyville and Keller with pan/returns and slinky loop duct systems.

    Went on call today with 5 ton Carrier furnace and 20x30x1 return box in ceiling and is was whistle 'ng' a tune.Cold evaporator and rusted; unit 2004 install.
    was it whistling dixie
  • 03-14-2008, 10:28 PM
    gasoilair
    Holy Crap!

    I can't believe that any inspector, (even an unskilled one), would pass a hackstallation like that.

    What a nightmare, especially after the sheetrock is up. I feel sorry for the poor SOB that gets that "no cooling" call.

    I'm sure Carrier, or any manufacturer for that matter, would like to see what's being done with they're equipment.
  • 03-14-2008, 10:06 PM
    aircooled53

    Poor design/ Hack'N'sack duct

    First off that gives Carrier a bad name with that hackstream duct system.

    A bunch new construction hackers goes on here in Texas,I have had to measure and re-design several homes in Colleyville and Keller with pan/returns and slinky loop duct systems.

    Went on call today with 5 ton Carrier furnace and 20x30x1 return box in ceiling and is was whistle 'ng' a tune.Cold evaporator and rusted; unit 2004 install.
  • 03-14-2008, 08:35 PM
    beachtech
    i like how they sqeezed that return duct into an oval. LMAO thats so crummy. what a bunch of hacks making all of us look bad. i cannot believe that this could pass inspection. it wouldn't down here!!!
  • 03-14-2008, 03:40 PM
    coo tech
    You have to love those calls. "Can you do something about the poor air flow in x room?" "What do you mean I need to replace my duct work, it's brand new."

    Call your builder ma'm, your duct work is in your builders back pocket.

    Frustrating.
  • 03-14-2008, 01:43 PM
    jimmbo68
    Can you say, LOW BALL!!!!!!
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