Iraq...A Failed Mission

[geerair]

William F. Buckley founder and publisher of the staunchly conservative National Review and leading conservative voice has declared Iraq a failed American mission.

"One can't doubt that the American objective in Iraq has failed."

"Yes, but within their own counsels (Bush administration), different plans have to be made." "And the kernel here is the acknowledgement of defeat."


Buckley is the most prominent of a growing number of conservative and Republican voices admitting that the Bush doctrine in Iraq was ill-conceived, born of fabrications and exaggerations which is rapidly culminating in irreversible chaos and disastrous implications for American foreign policy.

[skrewt]

Some people just like to give up 2 minutes into the first quarter.

Every other occupation the US has embarked upon took decades and cost tens of thousands of lives. So few people seem to understand that changes don't take place on a time schedule. We only fail when we quit.

[geerair]

I love to see wingnuts eating their own. Seems to be a common occurance these days.


And which occupations cost tens of thousands of lives?

[bootlen]

Originally posted by geerair
I love to see wingnuts eating their own. Seems to be a common occurance these days.


And which occupations cost tens of thousands of lives?

Now yer being facetious. You know what he means. Occupations are always costly and lengthy. Grow up and get over it. Otherwise, tony is gonna have another playmate.

[geerair]

Originally posted by bootlen

Now yer being facetious. You know what he means. Occupations are always costly and lengthy. Grow up and get over it. Otherwise, tony is gonna have another playmate. Tens of thousands? Hardly facetious about outrageous claims.

[James 3528]

Geer will never put you on to the full text or source. Leaves little credit for his content

[geerair]

Originally posted by James 3528
Geer will never put you on to the full text or source. Leaves little credit for his content Sorry, the full article is at NRO. Check it out.

[bootlen]

Originally posted by geerair

Originally posted by bootlen

Now yer being facetious. You know what he means. Occupations are always costly and lengthy. Grow up and get over it. Otherwise, tony is gonna have another playmate. Tens of thousands? Hardly facetious about outrageous claims.

On each previous major occupation, the war leading up to them costs hundreds of thousands of lives. Occupations took decades.

Go ahead. Post more of your stupidity.

[geerair]

Originally posted by bootlen

On each previous major occupation, the war leading up to them costs hundreds of thousands of lives. Occupations took decades.
That's not what he wrote. Unless you claim to be a mind reader, why don't we let skrewt explain what he meant. That would seem to be the best solution.

[James 3528]

What difference is it with what he wrote? He is one of a few thousands writers

[geerair]

Originally posted by James 3528
What difference is it with what he wrote? He is one of a few thousands writers He is Mr.Conservative.

The upshot is that even leading conservatives are coming around to the realization that Bush's vanity war has failed.

It's one thing if Howard Dean says it but when a conservative of Buckley's stature says it then you know it is terribly bad news for Bush.

[James 3528]

Originally posted by geerair

Originally posted by James 3528
What difference is it with what he wrote? He is one of a few thousands writers He is Mr.Conservative.

The upshot is that even leading conservatives are coming around to the realization that Bush's vanity war has failed.

It's one thing if Howard Dean says it but when a conservative of Buckley's stature says it then you know it is terribly bad news for Bush.

He is a pipe smoking ivy league writer that has never stood at a post with a weapon much like you. That is all you need to remember. He said something you like so today he is Mr.Conservative.

[rob10]

Originally posted by skrewt
Some people just like to give up 2 minutes into the first quarter.

Every other occupation the US has embarked upon took decades and cost tens of thousands of lives. So few people seem to understand that changes don't take place on a time schedule. We only fail when we quit. GW's vietnam. He just aint smart enough to smell the dog crap and get out.

[hvac r us 2]

You have to love a president that sees weapons of mass destruction that aren’t there, but cant see a hurricane that is. :rolleyes:

[bootlen]

Originally posted by hvac r us 2
You have to love a president that sees weapons of mass destruction that aren’t there, but cant see a hurricane that is. :rolleyes:

U-u-u-h, is geer by any chance your dad?

[hvac r us 2]

Originally posted by bootlen

Originally posted by hvac r us 2
You have to love a president that sees weapons of mass destruction that aren’t there, but cant see a hurricane that is. :rolleyes:

U-u-u-h, is geer by any chance your dad?

Uhhh, yeah, that’s it. :rollyeyes:

Everybody is entitled to their opinion, never amazes me how if the opinion is different than "the Bush Supporters" they are attacked.

Agree with me or I will fight with you type of thinking.

I ask the question why this administration does not take responsibility for their actions and I get attacked complete with name-calling.

Sorry to say boot, on this Bush thing...geer is right, not on all accounts, but mostly right.

[bootlen]

Originally posted by hvac r us 2

Originally posted by bootlen

Originally posted by hvac r us 2
You have to love a president that sees weapons of mass destruction that aren’t there, but cant see a hurricane that is. :rolleyes:

U-u-u-h, is geer by any chance your dad?

Uhhh, yeah, that’s it. :rollyeyes:

Everybody is entitled to their opinion, never amazes me how if the opinion is different than "the Bush Supporters" they are attacked.

Agree with me or I will fight with you type of thinking.

I ask the question why this administration does not take responsibility for their actions and I get attacked complete with name-calling.

Sorry to say boot, on this Bush thing...geer is right, not on all accounts, but mostly right.






Just wondering. You and geer post alike. You avoid truthful facts.

[hvac r us 2]

Originally posted by hvac r us 2

Originally posted by bootlen

Originally posted by hvac r us 2
You have to love a president that sees weapons of mass destruction that aren’t there, but cant see a hurricane that is. :rolleyes:

U-u-u-h, is geer by any chance your dad?

Uhhh, yeah, that’s it. :rolleyes:

Everybody is entitled to their opinion, never amazes me how if the opinion is different than "the Bush Supporters" they are attacked.

Agree with me or I will fight with you type of thinking.

I ask the question why this administration does not take responsibility for their actions and I get attacked complete with name-calling.

Sorry to say boot, on this Bush thing...geer is right, not on all accounts, but mostly right.

[hvac r us 2]

Originally posted by hvac r us 2

Originally posted by hvac r us 2

Originally posted by bootlen

Originally posted by hvac r us 2
You have to love a president that sees weapons of mass destruction that aren’t there, but cant see a hurricane that is. :rolleyes:

U-u-u-h, is geer by any chance your dad?

Uhhh, yeah, that’s it. :rolleyes:

Everybody is entitled to their opinion, never amazes me how if the opinion is different than "the Bush Supporters" they are attacked.

Agree with me or I will fight with you type of thinking.

I ask the question why this administration does not take responsibility for their actions and I get attacked complete with name-calling.

Sorry to say boot, on this Bush thing...geer is right, not on all accounts, but mostly right.






Just wanted to fix my smiley face. LOL

Boot, thats funny...I feel the same way about your posts on political issues.

[rob10]

Originally posted by hvac r us 2
You have to love a president that sees weapons of mass destruction that aren’t there, but cant see a hurricane that is. :rolleyes: In their coffin!!

[rob10]

Originally posted by hvac r us 2

Originally posted by bootlen

Originally posted by hvac r us 2
You have to love a president that sees weapons of mass destruction that aren’t there, but cant see a hurricane that is. :rolleyes:

U-u-u-h, is geer by any chance your dad?

Uhhh, yeah, that’s it. :rollyeyes:

Everybody is entitled to their opinion, never amazes me how if the opinion is different than "the Bush Supporters" they are attacked.

Agree with me or I will fight with you type of thinking.

I ask the question why this administration does not take responsibility for their actions and I get attacked complete with name-calling.

Sorry to say boot, on this Bush thing...geer is right, not on all accounts, but mostly right.




They are limited PU$$IES!! Ask them what they DRIVE!! :eek:

[geerair]

Originally posted by James 3528

Originally posted by geerair

Originally posted by James 3528
What difference is it with what he wrote? He is one of a few thousands writers He is Mr.Conservative.

The upshot is that even leading conservatives are coming around to the realization that Bush's vanity war has failed.

It's one thing if Howard Dean says it but when a conservative of Buckley's stature says it then you know it is terribly bad news for Bush.

He is a pipe smoking ivy league writer that has never stood at a post with a weapon much like you. That is all you need to remember. He said something you like so today he is Mr.Conservative.


Bawhahahahaha, wingnuts eating their own. Great entertainment.

[chillbilly]

Geerair reporting from CNN...This just in ...William F. Buckley...........
Do these guys have any clue as to how wars are won?
I can see all the vets at Normandy storming the beaches waiting for the newest spin doctor to report how the assault is going and when we should quit.

The substance of skrewt's post is not to give up or lose focus on the objective.
It's hard to understand what intestinal fortitude is unless you posess it.

[rob10]

Originally posted by chillbilly
Geerair reporting from CNN...This just in ...William F. Buckley...........
Do these guys have any clue as to how wars are won?
I can see all the vets at Normandy storming the beaches waiting for the newest spin doctor to report how the assault is going and when we should quit.

The substance of skrewt's post is not to give up or lose focus on the objective.
It's hard to understand what intestinal fortitude is unless you posess it. Iraq is GW's Vietnam. You must have some mental memory deficencies!!

[bootlen]

Originally posted by rob10
Originally posted by chillbilly
Iraq is GW's Vietnam.

Like you have a memory of Viet Nam. You were still playing with Barbie and Ken when that was all over.

[rob10]

In my senior year of high school at the very end. Probably would have gone that summer had it not been over. BTW: Lost 2 cousins in that God forsaked hell hole. Still remember the 21 gun salute at their funerals.

[bootlen]

Originally posted by rob10
In my senior year of high school at the very end. Probably would have gone that summer had it not been over. BTW: Lost 2 cousins in that God forsaked hell hole. Still remember the 21 gun salute at their funerals.

Sorry for your loss, rob.

[chillbilly]

Originally posted by bootlen

Originally posted by rob10
Originally posted by chillbilly
Iraq is GW's Vietnam.

Like you have a memory of Viet Nam. You were still playing with Barbie and Ken when that was all over.



Do not mispost me. I NEVER posted that Iraq is GW's Vietnam.
That post was regurgitated by Rob.

[bootlen]

Originally posted by chillbilly

Originally posted by bootlen

Originally posted by rob10
Originally posted by chillbilly
Iraq is GW's Vietnam.

Like you have a memory of Viet Nam. You were still playing with Barbie and Ken when that was all over.



Do not mispost me. I NEVER posted that Iraq is GW's Vietnam.
That post was regurgitated by Rob.

You are quite right, chilly. My bad. I missed deleting your name and it came out wrong. I agree with your politics and would not think of putting you in the same vein as rob, geer, et al.

[chillbilly]

Thanks Bootie.

Rob's such an idiot he still thinks I'm a Yankee and Geer's got Clinton's jizz on his dress.

Vietnam is nothing close to resembling the mideast and Iraq, but it sure sounds like good sing-song spin coming out of the mouths of the liberals.
My brother spent 2 years there in Bien Hoa and I know what it is like for families to grieve over those lost in a war.
Funny though, when you hear the soldiers speak about a mission or a war, they always seem to believe in what they are doing because they are subjected to and interact with people who have been tortured, mutilated and killed by oppressive dictators. They come back home and listen to the rhetoric and can't believe how gullible and stupid people can be.

[Edited by chillbilly on 02-26-2006 at 03:15 PM]

[bootlen]

Originally posted by chillbilly


Funny though, when you hear the soldiers speak about a mission or a war, they always seem to believe in what they are doing because they are subjected to and interact with people who have been tortured, mutilated and killed by oppressive dictators. They come back home and listen to the rhetoric and can't believe how gullible and stupid people can be.

[Edited by chillbilly on 02-26-2006 at 03:15 PM]

That was exactly my feelings in '69-'73. Buncha freakin' clueless libs.

[geerair]

Originally posted by chillbilly
Geerair reporting from CNN...This just in ...William F. Buckley...........
Do these guys have any clue as to how wars are won?
I can see all the vets at Normandy storming the beaches waiting for the newest spin doctor to report how the assault is going and when we should quit.Hyperbole


It's hard to understand what intestinal fortitude is unless you posess it. Or in Bush's case a hardhead unfettered by rational thinking and bolstered by a desperate attempt to salvage his legacy on the backs of our fighting men and women.

[geerair]

Originally posted by chillbilly

Vietnam is nothing close to resembling the mideast and Iraq, but it sure sounds like good sing-song spin coming out of the mouths of the liberals.Iraq is Vietnam squared with this view coming out of the mouths of liberals and now conservatives and Republicans as well.

[chillbilly]

Hyperbole my a$$.
Hyperbole is what you post on a constant basis here.
If our country had been short on resolve in previous World Wars, you might possibly be singing a different tune today.

You must think that oppressive regimes who torture their"citizens", kill their dissidents and squash their women while looking for ways to promote global terrorism and nuke their neighbors off the map are something America and the rest of the world should ignore.
There is no "hype" in facing down enemies and having the guts to put them away so that people can live a decent life, unfettered by power brokers and extremists.

[geerair]

Originally posted by chillbilly
unfettered by power brokers and extremists. Brilliant description of the Bush administration.

[chillbilly]

You should change the footer on your posts.
Truth could slap you in your mouth and you'd think it was something else.
Justice and the American way?? You advocate the "American way" but criticize your country's attempts to help promote liberty and freedoms around the world??
A constant contradiction.

[rob10]

Originally posted by chillbilly
Hyperbole my a$$.
Hyperbole is what you post on a constant basis here.
If our country had been short on resolve in previous World Wars, you might possibly be singing a different tune today.

You must think that oppressive regimes who torture their"citizens", kill their dissidents and squash their women while looking for ways to promote global terrorism and nuke their neighbors off the map are something America and the rest of the world should ignore.
There is no "hype" in facing down enemies and having the guts to put them away so that people can live a decent life, unfettered by power brokers and extremists. North Korea is just as oppressive. We ain't there with troops. WHY?? No oil you Dumba$$!!

[bootlen]

Originally posted by rob10

Originally posted by chillbilly
Hyperbole my a$$.
Hyperbole is what you post on a constant basis here.
If our country had been short on resolve in previous World Wars, you might possibly be singing a different tune today.

You must think that oppressive regimes who torture their"citizens", kill their dissidents and squash their women while looking for ways to promote global terrorism and nuke their neighbors off the map are something America and the rest of the world should ignore.
There is no "hype" in facing down enemies and having the guts to put them away so that people can live a decent life, unfettered by power brokers and extremists. North Korea is just as oppressive. We ain't there with troops. WHY?? No oil you Dumba$$!!

Koreans asren't part of a group of people who flew 3 airplanes into US buildings and a fourth into a US filed. Thought ya'd like a bit of late breaking news.

[rob10]

Originally posted by bootlen

Originally posted by rob10

Originally posted by chillbilly
Hyperbole my a$$.
Hyperbole is what you post on a constant basis here.
If our country had been short on resolve in previous World Wars, you might possibly be singing a different tune today.

You must think that oppressive regimes who torture their"citizens", kill their dissidents and squash their women while looking for ways to promote global terrorism and nuke their neighbors off the map are something America and the rest of the world should ignore.
There is no "hype" in facing down enemies and having the guts to put them away so that people can live a decent life, unfettered by power brokers and extremists. North Korea is just as oppressive. We ain't there with troops. WHY?? No oil you Dumba$$!!

Koreans asren't part of a group of people who flew 3 airplanes into US buildings and a fourth into a US filed. Thought ya'd like a bit of late breaking news. NO OIL!!!

[geerair]

Originally posted by bootlen

Koreans asren't part of a group of people who flew 3 airplanes into US buildings and a fourth into a US filed. Neither was Iraq.

[bootlen]

Originally posted by geerair

Originally posted by bootlen

Koreans asren't part of a group of people who flew 3 airplanes into US buildings and a fourth into a US filed. Neither was Iraq.

Then praytell, my poor blind fellow, who all those insurgents are?

[geerair]

Originally posted by bootlen

Originally posted by geerair

Originally posted by bootlen

Koreans asren't part of a group of people who flew 3 airplanes into US buildings and a fourth into a US filed. Neither was Iraq.

Then praytell, my poor blind fellow, who all those insurgents are? They are Bush creations. He excells in that category.

[bootlen]

Originally posted by geerair

Originally posted by bootlen

Originally posted by geerair

Originally posted by bootlen

Koreans asren't part of a group of people who flew 3 airplanes into US buildings and a fourth into a US filed. Neither was Iraq.

Then praytell, my poor blind fellow, who all those insurgents are? They are Bush creations. He excells in that category.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

OMG! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

You're not an HVAC type are you? You're really a comedy-fantasy writer, huh?

HAHAHAHAHAHA!

[bootlen]

No. No. You write for James Carville.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

[bootlen]

No. Wait. Bill Maher.

No. No. I know. Osama bin Laden.

HAHAHAHAHA!

[bootlen]

No. No. You are really Bahgdad Bob! That's it! You are the real Bahgdad Bob. They don't have the right guy in captivity.

OMG! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

[geerair]

Hit the jackpot that time. I'm flattered.