Removing a condensing unit without reclaiming ref

[tahoe97]

Proper steps to remove condensing unit with out reclaiming ref. A regular residential 3-5 ton.

[tinknocker service tech]

call a epa certified technician
this is the only way

[jeffshvac]

this isnt a question an entry level service tech would ask.were not allowed to give step by step advice to diyer. calling your certified ac contractor is recommended. thanks

[ct2]

Proper steps to remove condensing unit with out reclaiming ref. A regular residential 3-5 ton.


there are no proper steps to removing a condensing unit without reclaiming its charge and especially if you live in the tahoe area

[inturmoil]

Yes there is. If the compressor is good pump it down.

[ct2]

there always has to be someone out there willing to tell the unqualified how to do something they shouldnt be doing

[appltech1]

Originally posted by ct2
there always has to be someone out there willing to tell the unqualified how to do something they shouldnt be doing

He really didnt offer a step by step proceedure ct2 otherwise the moderator would have red flagged it. Not all units have pump downs. :)

[mister freeze]

make sure you get a universal certified tech to do the job!!!

[dachipsta]

Call me crazy, but I dont think I like the way the question was asked in the first place. Just gimme a frikin answer seems to be his attitude. I wouldn't tell him jack ****. Make him pay for service call like everyone else.......hahahahaha....l8r

[dan sw fl]

Originally posted by tahoe97
Proper steps to remove condensing unit with out reclaiming ref. A regular residential 3-5 ton.

What the hell is going on with this newbie tech?

'Proper' and 'with out' in this first sentence make NO sense what-so-ever.

[elkhvac]

Originally posted by inturmoil
Yes there is. If the compressor is good pump it down.

Then do what with it? Take it to the dump? Leave it in your backyard forever?

Refrigerant must be reclaimed!

[nc hvacman]

I am Universal certified but the person that does it only need be Type 2 certified to do it legally. NOT Universal. I am not saying we need to assist the untrained/uncertified/unqualified in any shape or form just know that alot of people don't seem to be Universal Certified because alot of people don't have experience with Chillers and thats what Type 3 is about.

[beenthere]

Is this a home work question.

There is a proper way to do it.

We do it when a HO is building an addition where the OD unit is setting, then relocate it when construction is finnished.

Register as a pro, and you can get alot of help in the tech forum.

[chillbilly]

Proper step is to call a qualified company.
DO NOT GIVE HIM ANY INFORMATION

[jtorres]

Originally posted by tahoe97
Proper steps to remove condensing unit with out reclaiming ref. A regular residential 3-5 ton.

reclaiming is done at the plant, the proper term is recover

[ct2]

Just for clairification: I do know how , we just did it on our NH3 10 compressor system at work....the key phrase here is :



chillbilly
Professional Member

Proper step is to call a qualified company.
"DO NOT GIVE HIM ANY INFORMATION"

any information is to much for someone that does not know how to do this safely

[inturmoil]

Jeez, you guys with the poles buried deep somewhere need to chill. I said PUMP IT DOWN. This info was for new techs who may read this. I don't think a diy will know what pump it down means. Man, do you union types think someone is going to "take 'er jobs"?

[Irishmist]

inturmoil, a 'new tech' wouldn't post a question like this in the resi site for 'public view.' Don't get yer shorts in a wad! I agree, we all know the proper way to perform this task. To instruct someone who may or worse may not be capable is an error in judgement. If a guys like this thinks he can do it, then have him call in an EPA representative and then proceed. That way they won't have far to go to find the culprit and fine him.

[Irishmist]

inturmoil, a 'new tech' wouldn't post a question like this in the resi site for 'public view.' Don't get yer shorts in a wad! I agree, we all know the proper way to perform this task. To instruct someone who may or worse may not be capable is an error in judgement. If a guys like this thinks he can do it, then have him call in an EPA representative and then proceed. That way they won't have far to go to find the culprit and fine him.

I don't believe for one minute this is a 'new tech' but someone who wants to circumvent the proper procedure. After all, do ya think there might be some DIY's out there that would just as soon DI themselves?

[gcastillo]

Sounds like a troll to me.

[dachipsta]

Some of these folks dont realize the many hazards associated with this trade. All it takes is some numbskull to go with some information given at this site and wind up blinded or badly frostbitten by escaping liquid refrigerant cuz they werent aware of what they were torching or cutting and what procedures to follow. I think we sometimes take for granted the knowledge we have gained over the years on how to deal with this stuff. We do it so often that it is second nature, almost instinctive. These folks havent a clue what they are getting into until its too late and they could possibly be permanently injured in a split second.


Its a very materialistic society we live in and there are folks that are so hell bent on saving a few bucks doing something themselves that they fail to consider the dangers involved. That is why we cant give them this kind of information. It's not about ego and job security. It's about trying to protect people that dont appriciate it..........l8r

[resolutetech]

Hey the dump where I live charges you 5 bucks and they take anything odu, referigerator, freezer, window shaker, anything.

Get this, this old dude with a nice box van comes(i spoke with him)he has a clamp on puncture tool. He pops this tool on line and sucks r22 or r12 into giant recovery tanks on truck (each to its own tank). I live in God's country (Virginia), but I think he runs it up to Maryland and sells it. He wouldnt say what he gets for it, but i wonder what he gets for the r12? That stuff is expensive!

I know another old dude he vents, and cuts up odu for scrap. hope epa dont catch him.

[backbeatkeeper]

somebody get me a video camera and his address. I think I see a chance to make a reward!!!

[beenthere]

Originally posted by resolutetech
but I think he runs it up to Maryland and sells it. He wouldnt say what he gets for it, but i wonder what he gets for the r12? That stuff is expensive!



Not legal to resell it.

[Furnace_dude]

Originally posted by tahoe97
Proper steps to remove condensing unit with out reclaiming ref. A regular residential 3-5 ton.

1. get your hypertronic quazibeam balancer and polylatterly examine the flux beam of the unit.

2. do same on yourself

3. if you arent polylatterly balanced within the hetroscoptic region of the septosphere of the unit, do not procede!!! [the unit will remove your skin, turn it inside out and reapply it to your body after soaking you in a bath of hypertronic salt and acid @ 400* klevtoton.


if you are polylatterly balanced within the hetroscoptic region of the septosphere of the unit, lemme know and i will tell you the rest.

btw, is the units respiration media cleansing pad sanatized????

[turtle]

Originally posted by backbeatkeeper
somebody get me a video camera and his address. I think I see a chance to make a reward!!!

This is Turtle

I got news for you. You can turn in anybody and get the $25K reward allocated to you for doing so but the money to pay you is not there yet. there is $10+ Million allowed to be given out to people who have turned in people already but the U.S. Congress has not releasted the money yet to pay these people the reward money yet. Some say they will pass a bill to allocate the reward money to be paid out and other say they will never allocate the money to be paid to the rewardee their money for turning in the other hvac people.

So don't spend too much setting up any fellow to get the $25K reward just yet.

TURTLE

[Wild Leg]

Originally posted by beenthere

Originally posted by resolutetech
but I think he runs it up to Maryland and sells it. He wouldnt say what he gets for it, but i wonder what he gets for the r12? That stuff is expensive!



Not legal to resell it.



It's legal to sell used refrigerant to a reclaimer.
Then it's their's to dispose of, or clean it back to ARI 700 specs.

Junk yards have to recover refrigerant from old cars. What's the difference whether they do it in house, or pay somebody to do it.

[Furnace_dude]

did you check to see if your in phase, so to speak, with your unit????????????????????? if you arent, there could be problems!

[beenthere]

Originally posted by bwal2

Originally posted by beenthere

Originally posted by resolutetech
but I think he runs it up to Maryland and sells it. He wouldnt say what he gets for it, but i wonder what he gets for the r12? That stuff is expensive!



Not legal to resell it.



It's legal to sell used refrigerant to a reclaimer.
Then it's their's to dispose of, or clean it back to ARI 700 specs.





Forgot about them.

[propmanage]

Take a picture date and time and email us. we can cash in on this. The fine would make you wine.

[ct2]

This is Turtle

I got news for you. You can turn in anybody and get the $25K reward allocated to you for doing so but the money to pay you is not there yet. there is $10+ Million allowed to be given out to people who have turned in people already but the U.S. Congress has not releasted the money yet to pay these people the reward money yet. Some say they will pass a bill to allocate the reward money to be paid out and other say they will never allocate the money to be paid to the rewardee their money for turning in the other hvac people.

So don't spend too much setting up any fellow to get the $25K reward just yet.
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Turtle, this is the united states. did you really believe they ever had any intentions of actually doing something they said they would do , like pay a reward. If they did they would find a way to charge 30,000 dollars tax for a 25,000 reward

[Edited by ct2 on 02-01-2006 at 01:25 PM]

[Furnace_dude]

prolly so! the us government will do anything to screw the hard working people out of our hard earned dollars.

of course, the welfare bums, they get to buy their drugs with our money! [social security wont be there for me when i retire, so why do i have to pay for it??

[beenthere]

Originally posted by Furnace_dude
prolly so! the us government will do anything to screw the hard working people out of our hard earned dollars.

of course, the welfare bums, they get to buy their drugs with our money! [social security wont be there for me when i retire, so why do i have to pay for it??

So its there for me. :)

[Furnace_dude]

prolly so!! ;)why not give my hard earned ca$h away??;)