I was fired today

[crozzy]

Okay, Ive been with this HVAC/R company for a good while now and I've done everything possible for this company. I even went out of my way on my own personal time to find them work when they were slow. I did eveything for them.

I bought a thermostat from a supply store with cash and gave it to my buddy and he decided he didnt want it, so I sold it on ebay. And the company found out and called me on moonlighting and fired me?? The owner wouldnt even give me the benefit of the doubt?? He doesnt care how I got it or who I sold it to, he didnt even wanna hear it.

I swear, maybe I should just get outa the busines for good. I based my life on that company and they screwed me over like that...I dunno, i just dont think I have it in me anymore...I put so much in it and got nothing in return

Am I wrong..

[Dowadudda]

go on your own before you quit the trade. Atleast if it don't work out, you know he tried it every which way..

[crazyiman]

sounds like a good case of wrongful discharge.

If you can prove the claims that you contributed as heavily to the bottom line of the company as you say you have that should weigh heavily in your favor.

Talk to a lawyer. It does not matter if you are in a right to work state or what ever.
Wrongful discharge is always a good one for the jury to hear.

Good luck.

[coolwhip]

Screw the lawyer, just go out and find another job. Shouldnt be hard for a frigy.

[pecmsg]

Sorry to here that .

Hang in there.

There probably using the Stat as an excuse. You’ll find something better. Next time don’t give your time away. Good Luck & keep us posted.

[crazyiman]

Originally posted by coolwhip
Screw the lawyer, just go out and find another job. Shouldnt be hard for a frigy.
Well I guess you could screw the lawyer. But what if it's not a female lawyer?

[crozzy]

Well fellas, a big refrigeration company wants to meet with me tomorrow, they said they are excited to meet with me. I told them my whole story, and they think I was screwed for no reason also. So hopfully this pans out. I kinda just need to clear my head, I guess...I was just pretty upset, you can say.

[smilies]

Originally posted by crozzy
I told them my whole story, and they think I was screwed for no reason also.
WTF would you tell another company this story for?

Didn't you say you ran the service dept at your company and you are only 22? Don't take this the wrong way, but there is no way in hell I would work for a company with a 22 year old as svc mgr. Something is screwy with that company and you just found out.

You can always work for your dad; doesn't he have his own business?

[matt8085]

If they fired you for something as rediculous as that than maybe it was a blessing in disguise. their loss.

[crozzy]

No, I was their head hvac tech, I wasnt any service manager, but i did run the residential service part. There isnt a service manager there. And, Yes My dad has his own company but working with family is Hell and its 100 miles from where I am now. And I told the new company the story because I have nothing to hide from anyone, I dont like lying to people, no matter what the circumstances are. and that would of been lying or hiding the truth. I'd much rather not get hired rather than lie about myself to them. And yes I am 23, I started in the business when I was 14 years old and have done it ever since. You would be surprised what you learn in 8 years of working with your father and his companys Army. There isnt a man alive that is a bigger hard as* other than my father, i went through hell and back to get where I am now. I used to work 70hr weeks in the summer...when i was 16! Answer any questions?? Age can be dicieving and fleeting. And I swear to GOD when I say this...50% of those customers are mine, I know them all personaly. They trust and respect me. Thats how I make my$$$$$$$$$$$.

Trust and Respect. I earned it through many years of being sh** on because of my age at the time.

[Edited by crozzy on 01-20-2006 at 07:52 PM]

[tempdelta]

getting down on being fired from any company is simply bs in this trade.. hell laugh at em and get outta there ...

HVAC/R shoudln't involve politics

[jahvacr]

Croozy Sounds to me like they gave you the opportunity to make a good move. Just think, thier going to put some hack in your place.They will pay believe me, You wouldn't be on this site if you didn't want to be one of the best. Get out there get another job & do what you love doing.Good havacr people don't hide in corners they are just hard to come by.I hope this helps.

[jahvacr]

crozzy one more thought, always rememeber the glass is half full not half emty.

[wolfstrike]

my teachers are highly skilled HVAC instructors who have been in the field their whole life, they got fired all the time during their careers.

one guy was hired as HVAC and when he got to the job site they told him he was going to be doing plumbing, when he said he wasn't set up for plumbing, they fired him the same day.

most of them run their own businesses now.

[citywide service]

I would think that if you got all those customers for the other company and they prefer to have you service their equipment why not put a small add in the local paper or whatever stating that:

"crozzy" formerly of XXXX company has moved to "Joe Shmoe refrigeration" and is no longer employed by XXX Company.

Or spend a Saturday and just go and "visit" those customers and let them know that if they are not happy with the service your old company provides after you left they can reach you at the new company.

I don't really think the second option is ethical but neither is termination without representation! I think that there was more to the story than they are willing to let out, maybe things were tighter than you think!

Either way all your doing is informing your old customers of your new employment and the new company will view you as an asset right off the bat.



What ever happens, I wish you luck. It sucks to start over in the slow period of the year.


Citywide.

[troyorr]

Ask your old boss to come here and give us his side of the story.

[crozzy]

He wont come on here. I asked him already, back in the day. He hates computers and everything about them. He dont even know how to use the interent. His wife and dauther do all that.

So, anyway..Im gona go hustle some pool now.. Have a great weekened ya'll.

Crozz

[hvacpope]

I dont buy it, nobody gets fired for selling something they "own" on e-bay, unless you are not telling us the other half of the story. think about it, he was there for a long time, head tech and everything,I bet something else happened here.

[troyorr]

Maybe you were fired because of your previous relationship with the bosses daughter. Since she knows how to use the computer, and she works in the office, ask her to come here and tell the company side of the story.

[hvac3901]

I dont think anyone here would disagree, normally customer theft after leaving somewhere is to be shuned upon. But in your case I would say it is warranted just be sure to not involve the customer in the bs.

There was something i heard once not verbatum but generally "never look better than the boss" maybe you upset the balance of power by bringing in too many customers? And once that individual had some dirt on you...it was exploited.

none of that matters now. you are trained and experienced in one of the most diverse and dynamic technical fields in exsistance. That is not arguable. For every technological advancement we have made the indoor enviroment has played a key part of that. From pentium processors, surgical advancements, Food preperation and delivery, high rise buildings, manufacturing (not hvac products) you name it. From the advent of hvac this has been the case. production was the driving force of hvac / indoor enviroment, enviromental control. Willis carrier developed humidity control, this allowed for year round processing of cotton, something that before could only be done in the summer. and that broke the mold for all the things we do today.

Point being a good HVACR man is never out of work, dont let the small **** cause you to loose sight of the big picture. There are always options and places to go for good men in this field.

[hvac_czar]

:D

[Edited by hvac_czar on 01-23-2006 at 05:55 PM]

[crozzy]

I started at my new company and it's pretty damn good. My boss's there want me to get all my old customers and bring them with me. Sine most of them are personal friends ,I dont even have to ask them. They just do what I tell them to do, so it's no big deal.
And for my old boss, he called me sunday and said he was sorry for jumping the gun. I told him to F*** off. After he embarssed me like that, in front of everyone. I'm only nice for so long, then you don't want to know me.:) So its all good in the hood. Peace out Frigee's

[-frozen-ocean-]

tell your old boss that you'll only work for him on days that don't end with a "Y". it might take him a few minutes to get that one. its all good, thats right.

[jackmm1]

Crozzy & Dowadudda
Going into your own Business on your own is great idea if you have no family obligations ,mortgage etc. or any other finance problem
OR You are
Debt free, your wife has a great job &income, can take of your Mtg while you struggle and get on your feet, however you should stay in the trade it will serve you well
Good Luck...

[Dowadudda]

I was saying for him to. not me. are you crazy? you'd have tp be off your rocker now wouldn't ya? :D

been rocking for going on 5 years.

[gbfromsd]

I had a boss like that too. Came in one day and he said "Give me your keys, gas card, and go empty the van".
Wouldn't explain why just to say YOU'RE FIRED!. As I'm emptying the van I suppose his conscience got the better of him as he walks over and we chat. Long story short, he hires me back an hour later. Two days later I gave him my two week notice.

I figure I'm a reasonable man. You got a beef with me let's talk about it. I got bills to pay and places to play so it's not OK to pull out a gun and shoot me. I will not ever under any situation work with or for A**Holes.

Been with my current company going on 4 years now and never looked back.

[747ken]

Originally posted by crozzy
And I told the new company the story because I have nothing to hide from anyone, I dont like lying to people, no matter what the circumstances are. and that would of been lying or hiding the truth. I'd much rather not get hired rather than lie about myself to them. And yes I am 23, I started in the business when I was 14 years old and have done it ever since. You would be surprised what you learn in 8 years of working with your father and his companys Army. Age can be dicieving and fleeting. And I swear to GOD when I say this...50% of those customers are mine, I know them all personaly. They trust and respect me. Thats how I make my$$$$$$$$$$$.



[Edited by crozzy on 01-20-2006 at 07:52 PM]

Wow, very well said. With that attitude, you'll go far. Good luck.

[hillbilly tech]

Cant believe a good man would get fired over something so petty as that,hell if i worked for somebody and they wouldnt let me work on the side I would find someone that would.No need to for companies to be greedy here,I do what i want,lifes a chance.But they are two sides to every story,were you always on time,productive employee,got along with others ok,look were going to have promblems at work but two many can cause a man to lose his job.I always treat the boss as he knows more than me even if he dont.But usually he does damnit.