Rheem Furnace - won't activate

[sask101]

this one got me, I have a 2006 Rheem funace that will not activate ( turn on ), any idea's on what wrong

[dandyme]

yea, it's broke. call a tech.

next ???????

[sask101]

I am a Tech, I am asking other techs, I have checked all systems and no go, I hate to tell client they need a new ______ furnace, after they spent the same amount 6 years ago .........I over 10 year I have worked on other brands and this is my first Rheem

Pricing is against the rules.

Thanks,

Mods

[sideburns05]

any voltage measurements would help to diagnose

[sask101]

I did voltage test to main, it read within tolorances based on lennox, I replaced the Honeywell Gas Valve VR8205S2296 PROTECH 60-100394-01 thinking this would fix issue but no success ? any help

[Dr.phil]

Wow!

[sideburns05]

Is the inducer running?
Is the ignitor glowing or electrodes sparking?
Is it getting a signal from the tstat?
Does the blower run?
Is it flashing a diagnostic code?
Where in the sequence of operation does stop working?

[NCHeat]

I did voltage test to main, it read within tolorances based on lennox, I replaced the Honeywell Gas Valve VR8205S2296 PROTECH 60-100394-01 thinking this would fix issue but no success ? any help

What led you to that diagnosis?

[BaldLoonie]

There's a great troubleshooting chart on the door.

[wahoo]

If you are "working" on folk's units, then you need to get into the pro section and you can get help there. :.02:
Remember the triangle.....only need three things, fuel, air and ignition source. Yeah, it's somewhat more complicated but amazing how many forget these simple three things!!!

[b26440510]

maybe you should fess up.

[wahoo]

There is a common program practiced by many less experienced technicians...it's the RPR program. Stands for Random Parts Replacement. Replace ENOUGH parts and finally you'll find the real problem!!! Okay..Okay, I'm no help either.:gah:

[HVACTechNC]

There is an ignition sequence that is universal for all furnaces. Any experienced tech who works on furnaces knows that sequence. How far into the sequence does the furnace go before it locks out?

[Gib's Son]

Wow!

:ditto:

[PalmettoMaintPro]

yea, it's broke. call a tech.

next ???????

well played:cheers:

[PalmettoMaintPro]

I am a Tech, I am asking other techs, I have checked all systems and no go, I hate to tell client they need a new $ 6000 furnace, after they spent the same amount 6 years ago .........I over 10 year I have worked on other brands and this is my first Rheem

they all work the same the only thing that changes is the name on the plate and the way it is put together. I never told no one bout my first rheem:censored:

[precision hvac]

And you are out there running calls on customer's furnaces?
Tech? Hardly.
Parts changer? Yes.

Just keep throwing parts at it until it works.
Unbelieveable.

[jmac00]

how about model and serial number?

I don't suppose anyone checked the breaker? :grin2:

[sask101]

I though I was dealing with professionals on this blog, it looks like 1 out of 5 responses are from real Techs, the responses that are negative are from techs from older generations that only care about one thing and that is taking advantage of customers... I average 3 referrals per customer each year and it is not because I am young, it is because I work with my customers to save them money and not steal their money....if you cannot answer the question I posted please keep your opinions to your self. If you cannot honestly answers posters questions keep your thoughts to your bar pals and not on blogs like this, it weakens the value insures the new generation stays away... (thanks to all who answered the my question)

[NCHeat]

We are really here to try and help. You didn't give us any usable information such as what led you to change a gas valve.

[mlstark]

Sask101, we can't give you answers on open forums, get your post count up and apply for pro membership, then you will get more help then needed.

[Dr.phil]

I though I was dealing with professionals on this blog, it looks like 1 out of 5 responses are from real Techs, the responses that are negative are from techs from older generations that only care about one thing and that is taking advantage of customers... I average 3 referrals per customer each year and it is not because I am young, it is because I work with my customers to save them money and not steal their money....if you cannot answer the question I posted please keep your opinions to your self. If you cannot honestly answers posters questions keep your thoughts to your bar pals and not on blogs like this, it weakens the value insures the new generation stays away... (thanks to all who answered the my question)

You have asked the most incomplete question I've seen since, Huh? Think of it this way, what information would your senior tech ask you for , when you call him, and give it to us. I've checked everything, and it's all good, won't get you very far. Right now everyone here thinks you are diy. Prove you're not with some kind of step by step, of what you've done so far. If you are a homeowner, say so and we will help you as best we can.

[jpsmith1cm]

How many techs use the phrase "won't activate" when dealing with a furnace?

Something isn't right here


To the original poster...

There is a great bunch of guys here. Guys that could troubleshoot that furnace with both hands tied behind their back.

If you want some advice, you need to bring something more to the table than what you have, not to mention bringing a little respect along with it.


After all, you're the one looking for advice. :.02:

[dandyme]

Sask101, we can't give you answers on open forums, get your post count up and apply for pro membership, then you will get more help then needed.

wouldn't that imply Reading the Rules

[jpsmith1cm]

I am a Tech, I am asking other techs, I have checked all systems and no go, I hate to tell client they need a new $ An expensive furnace, after they spent the same amount 6 years ago .........I over 10 year I have worked on other brands and this is my first Rheem

First, no pricing in posts. Had you read the rules, you'd know that.

Simply put, you cannot have checked everything and still not have found the problem.

Keep that in your head while you are re-checking what you missed.

[sask101]

Thanks ml stark for your advice, I have decided that hvac-talk is not a real form for the profession it is rather a place older guys to hangout and make jokes of younger members of the profession. Guys have fun at our expense all day and you will never grow your membership rather your forum will be looked at what it is, guys who do not know what they are talking about so they just have fun at others expense...good luck.....Sask101 signing out forever

[Dr.phil]

Wow! Didn't listen to a thing!

[mlstark]

Thanks ml stark for your advice, I have decided that hvac-talk is not a real form for the profession it is rather a place older guys to hangout and make jokes of younger members of the profession. Guys have fun at our expense all day and you will never grow your membership rather your forum will be looked at what it is, guys who do not know what they are talking about so they just have fun at others expense...good luck.....Sask101 signing out forever

Sorry you feel that way, there's really a lot of knowledge here, you just have to follow the rules, and you'd be more than welcome, good luck, try not to be so sensitive, life is too short.

[jmac00]

Thanks ml stark for your advice, I have decided that hvac-talk is not a real form for the profession it is rather a place older guys to hangout and make jokes of younger members of the profession. Guys have fun at our expense all day and you will never grow your membership rather your forum will be looked at what it is, guys who do not know what they are talking about so they just have fun at others expense...good luck.....Sask101 signing out forever

soooo, basically you want us to fix your furnace with little to no information?

ok, I'll give it a shot.........lets review?

1)We have a Rheem furnace

2) it won't "activate" ( like a road side bomb)

3)for some mysterious reason your replaced the gas valve

4).........and we are not professional

does that cover it? anyone? come on, someone here has to be clairvoyant.

ya, seeya

[Mr Bill]

the responses that are negative are from techs from older generations that only care about one thing and that is taking advantage of customers.


WHAT!!!! older generations take advantage of folks????? every big company in the city of Houston hires the younger folks that only sell, sell, sell, most don't know how to repair, and this is the stone cold facts, speaking of facts you got yours all mixed up. :cool:

[Mr Bill]

soooo, basically you want us to fix your furnace with little to no information?

3)for some mysterious reason your replaced the gas valve.

Hear! hear! I always start at replacing the gas valve when a furnace won't start, I even replaced the gas valve once and the blower motor started running. :grin2:

[catmanacman]

WHAT A IDIOT it's ok with me if you don't like us

[b26440510]

... so they just have fun at others expense...

Like you learning how to fix equipment at your customer's expense.

[jmac00]

Like you learning how to fix equipment at your customer's expense.

OUCH~~~~~~ good one :grin2::cheers:

[PalmettoMaintPro]

Thanks ml stark for your advice, I have decided that hvac-talk is not a real form for the profession it is rather a place older guys to hangout and make jokes of younger members of the profession. Guys have fun at our expense all day and you will never grow your membership rather your forum will be looked at what it is, guys who do not know what they are talking about so they just have fun at others expense...good luck.....Sask101 signing out forever

For the record I am only 30 and have also been doing this for right at eleven years and troubleshooting a furnace is something I learned a couple of years ago ,I was just lucky and got to work on a bunch of them right out the gate . Yeah our forum will be what it is , a place for trained techs to get all the crap off thier chest .not a place for posers or DIYers to try and snake info so they dont gots to pay a service call:gah:

[HVACTechNC]

The combined experience on this website exceeds anything you will find anywhere else out there. Difficult diagnostics are addressed every day here, and done correctly. We are not here to poke fun at anyone, but you did not give us any information to help you with. I asked in my earlier post, and it was ignored, where in the ignition sequence the furnace stopped. Also, there are little flashy-things on the control board that are diagnostic LEDs. There is a chart inside the door that helps you to interpret those strange flashes. Providing that information would be helpful in diagnosing a furnace problem. The total lack of information provided, combined with a blatent refusal to answer any of a number of straightforward questions that should be simple to a service technician that would shed light on the problem leads me (and the rest of us) to believe that you aren't really the experienced service technician you are telling us you are.

I would be willing to bet that the problem is simple and can be easily repaired, but you havent told us anything about it. I hope you do come back, thicken your skin a little (I have been poked fun at sometimes too when I set my self up for it, it just happens) and either provide useable information or fess up that you are a homeowner. We will be willing to help, but we will not help a homeowner hurt himself or blow up his house.

[wahoo]

Kinda like the customer who calls up "my furnace won't work, what could be wrong?"......uh......do you want a list, or may we come out and fix it? Honestly, we don't even attempt to answer such a question. But then again, we could just replace the gas valve and start with that!! Many parts later we'd have a really pi**ed off customer and no credibility left. Kinda like a car mechanic who replaces the entire fuel injection system when the car won't even crank over. Gotta start somewhere???
P.S. didn't intend to insult any old and cranky auto mechanics either.:gah:

[Twilly]

Twilly says thermostat.....

[jmac00]

Twilly says thermostat.....

after your replace the :
Gas Valve
circuit board
Flame sensor
HSI/spark assy.
Blower motor
transformer
Door switch
circuit breaker..........

screw it, buy a new house:whistle:

[dandyme]

after your replace the :
Gas Valve
circuit board
Flame sensor
HSI/spark assy.
Blower motor
transformer
Door switch
circuit breaker..........

screw it, buy a new house:whistle:






that's the answer:cheers::cheers:

[lennoxmack]

All it probably is the power switch for the furnace is turned off. lol

[FLSunLvr]

Thanks ml stark for your advice, I have decided that hvac-talk is not a real form for the profession it is rather a place older guys to hangout and make jokes of younger members of the profession. Guys have fun at our expense all day and you will never grow your membership rather your forum will be looked at what it is, guys who do not know what they are talking about so they just have fun at others expense...good luck.....Sask101 signing out forever

I dunno, I'm new here too, asked a valid question and got some good input. Why don't you save face and tell them what portion of the process is not working? I used to sell Rheems when the glow bars went bad almost weekly, good times, lotsa sleepless night running service calls.

[allan38]

A good place for a tech to start is with the furnace manual. The Rheem furnace manual. includes the sequence of operation. My community college happened to use the Rheem/Ruud manual as the example of the sequence of operation that modern ignition control boards use. I had to memorize it and I've been able to use the same sequence of operation with Goodman/Amana, Trane, Carrier/Bryant, Lennox, Ducane, Nordyne, Texas Furnace and any other modern furnace that I've came across. The original reply of "where in the sequence of operation was it when it failed" was the most concise and intelligent reply he could have given.

Submit your pro application if you're in the trade. We all didn't have the same formative experiences coming into the trade. Some started as plumbers, some as electricians, there are a few ex-auto mechanics, a few aircraft mechanics, appliance repairman and electrical engineers.
I was an electronics repair technician, we all had to start somewhere. The first AC tech I knew started as an appliance delivery guy, his boss asked him to help fix a stove. His was curious, studied and can now earn a living in several different repair trades.

[darctangent]

classic!

a true hall of fame thread.

[jmac00]

classic!

a true hall of fame thread.

ya, i think we have reached the :deadhorse: point :grin2: