Uninsulated home, need new furnace recommendation.

[thesober]

Hello everyone,

Here is my situation. I live in Toronto and have some cold winters up here. My oil tank was condemned last week so i have been doing a lot of hectic research about what to do. I want to upgrade to natural gas.

Im getting quotes from different contractors and would like a few suggestions/recommendations from you.

Since my home is uninsulated, a contractor said its a good idea to go for a single stage furnace since it would heat up my home quickly. He said in a two stage, it will take too long to heat up because of the heat loss. What do you think?

[amd]

You might want to look for another contractor.

A two stage furnace will run on high right away when necessary if it's paired up with the appropriate thermostat. Even with a single stage thermostat, most units only run on low for the first ten minutes.

The rate at which a system can raise the temperature has absolutely nothing to do with how many stages it has - the only factor aside from proper installation and duct leakage is size.

I would really add insulation before replacing the heating system - you'll reduce heat loss considerable and require a much smaller unit.

[thesober]

Originally posted by amd

I would really add insulation before replacing the heating system - you'll reduce heat loss considerable and require a much smaller unit.
[/B]

Thanks for the insight but I cant insulate first, the oil company wont give me anymore oil until i replace the tank. I dont want to replace the tank because I want to go natural gas. I dont have too much time left till the oil runs dry. :(

[Dad]

amd is right


find another contractor and fast.

[a\c don]

amd is right on the money, litarally.

With rapidly rising fuel costs it would be foolish not to insulate first.

[dan sw fl]

Originally posted by thesober
[QUOTE]Originally posted by amd

I dont have too much time left till the oil runs dry. :(

A l i t t l e
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GET A Plan!

[thesober]

Originally posted by dan sw fl

Originally posted by thesober
[QUOTE]Originally posted by amd

I dont have too much time left till the oil runs dry. :(

A l i t t l e
incentive to
GET A Plan!


lol...Im trying to learn as much as I can since my tank got condemned last week. Im getting a couple of other quotes coming in tomorrow and saturday. One step at a time, i guess.

Thanks for the help everyone, much appreciated.

[docholiday]

personally I would look for an insulation contractor first.

[mayguy]

What's wrong with the oil tank?? can it be repaired to get you by for now??


I would get the house insulated first, otherwise, your new furnace will be oversized when you do insulated later on.

A two stage t-stat will fire up the high fire right away.. The first dealer saying take stoo long must don't know how to install two stage stats..

[The Penguin]

Originally posted by thesober

Originally posted by dan sw fl

Originally posted by thesober
[QUOTE]Originally posted by amd

I dont have too much time left till the oil runs dry. :(

A l i t t l e
incentive to
GET A Plan!


lol...Im trying to learn as much as I can since my tank got condemned last week. Im getting a couple of other quotes coming in tomorrow and saturday. One step at a time, i guess.

Thanks for the help everyone, much appreciated.

i might get done here for suggesting this but to buy a little time go get some deisl fuel in a jerry can and top up your tank yourself if necessary then get gas furncae and insulation

[The Penguin]

ins cos are anal reg oil tanks no tag no ins must replace or have certified

[beenthere]

I'm with the penguin,
get a couple 5 gal cans and keep adding oil till the insulation is in, and then get your new properly sized NG furnace.

[key]

There is a ENERGREEN program in Ontario, they help with insulation rebates and heating upgrades, did you know there is a $200 gas rebate for a new furnace. Check out Ministry of Mines and Natural Resourses Canada web site for all programs.

[coolmen]

with the cost of fuel nowadays gas ,oil,maybe electric as well.INSULATE ,INSULATE

[tinknocker service tech]

hy not just get a temparary above ground tank and use it for now. this will take the presure of you all the way arround. you will also gain some time to find a qualified contractor that wil give you the best job he can. you will also have time to insulate even if you do it your self it is better then not at all. above ground temp tank shouldnt cost that much and the oil co should have no problem giving you oil

[mayguy]

Tin made a very good point bout the temp tank.

[junkhound]

What are Ontario Hydro kW-hr rates now - 5.8 cents or so, even after recent increases as a hidden tax?. After the insulation, consider that a heat pump may be the way to go -- no idea what Canadian NG prices are going to do (up?), but way up at US hubs. . .There are a bunch of threads showing advantageous cost comparisons even for -20C weather, esp. for > $12 MBtu NG. .