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I'm wondering if anybody has any experience replacing the insulation inside an air handler. I have a situation where a condensate pan cracked and thoroughly saturated the fiberglass insulation inside a Carrier unit. I'm replacing the pan and want to replace the insulation, which is black and moldy now, but I wonder if there's any better alternative to the foil-lined fiberglass that Carrier provides. Does anybody have any experience or recommendations for a closed-cell product or something that might do a better job if it ever gets wet again?
Thanks.
gravity
06-11-2011, 10:24 PM
i have never done it before but i would use 1/2"-1" foam board and either glue it or use drives with screws to hold it in place.
SoFlaDave
06-11-2011, 10:24 PM
I've used sheets of 1" Rubatex material with some success. Just gotta dry the unit really well and slather on some rubatex paint. Its a alot easier to work with than fiberglass IMO
henryp
09-04-2011, 08:22 AM
I need to do the same but I don't know if i can simply cut a sheet of styrofoam to the appropriate size and glue it on the bottom or if needs to be a different material. I'm considering styrofoam since it won't loose it's thermal properties if it gets wet.
genduct
09-04-2011, 01:57 PM
because the mold didn't grow on the insulation. It grew because there was LIQUID WATER and Organic material (DIRT) So the mold would have grow on anything or more clearly, on any surface
acwizard
09-04-2011, 04:28 PM
I need to do the same but I don't know if i can simply cut a sheet of styrofoam to the appropriate size and glue it on the bottom or if needs to be a different material. I'm considering styrofoam since it won't loose it's thermal properties if it gets wet.
I would be hesistant to use styrofoam. The flame and smoke spread needs to comply with UL in this application.
energy_rater_La
09-04-2011, 05:44 PM
I'm with acwizard about using foams.
there is a reason foam isn't approved for hvac.
I don't use foam products in returns or anything
hvac related. ductboard, duct wrap mastics.
I think you need to address why there is so much condensation
inside the unit. let me guess...ahu is located in attic?
until you address why there is so much condensation
you will be changing insulation often.
best of luck
pwg11386
09-04-2011, 07:54 PM
I'm with acwizard about using foams.
there is a reason foam isn't approved for hvac.
I don't use foam products in returns or anything
hvac related. ductboard, duct wrap mastics.
I think you need to address why there is so much condensation
inside the unit. let me guess...ahu is located in attic?
until you address why there is so much condensation
you will be changing insulation often.
best of luck
he said his pan is cracked
timebuilder
09-04-2011, 08:18 PM
Have you asked Carrier if they use the original style of insulation in a retrofit situation, or if they have something else that is approved for the purpose?
energy_rater_La
09-05-2011, 12:03 PM
my mistake about the pan location.
there is a pan fix..asphalt I think.
but pan has to be clean and dry
and not rusted thru.
best of luck.
catmanacman
09-05-2011, 02:09 PM
what about just leaving the insulation out of the inside and wrap the air handler with duct wrap, just a thought
genduct
09-05-2011, 05:43 PM
what about just leaving the insulation out of the inside and wrap the air handler with duct wrap, just a thought
How about a zipper for access
Gib's Son
09-05-2011, 05:56 PM
http://www.armacell.us/WWW/armacell/INETArmacell.nsf/web/D489E388CFD3159EC12576D20065B99E?OpenDocument&Nav=8F2B7376E5ACFEAFC125775E003369BA
Just about all insulation companies make fiber free duct liner if that's what you want, including Knauf, Rubatex and Owens Corning.
energy_rater_La
09-05-2011, 07:48 PM
The problem I've found in insulating the unit with ductwrap..
and I've done it this way..is unit's support to drain pan..
be it bricks, styro blocks, metal supports or wooden framing..
that the area where the now externally insulated equipment
compresses it the ductwrap, so it condensates more. because R-value
of compressed insulation is R-0.
how much it condensates depends is comparable with area
of compressed insulation.
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