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arkight
09-15-2005, 10:11 PM
The price difference is like $200 so i figured go with the York since i have heard of them and if i remember right they make prety good units. Am i right in my thinking

atufano
09-15-2005, 10:24 PM
Originally posted by arkight
The price difference is like $200 so i figured go with the York since i have heard of them and if i remember right they make prety good units. Am i right in my thinking

Depends on who installs it. I install York, Heil, Goodman (which is Gibson or vice versa) and all the systems have thier differences. But if it is installed correctly you'll be fine. You can have a hack install either systems and 200 buck will seem like chump change when you pay to have it reinstalled correctly.

RoBoTeq
09-15-2005, 10:59 PM
Goodman is "NOT" Gibson! Nor does Gibson have anything to do with Goodman. They are not in the least related.

I believe Gibson is another Nordyne product.

HVAC Pro
09-15-2005, 11:04 PM
Every brand has good, better, and best. Most brands will produce a model now and then that will prove to be problematic. I would consider both of these brands to be average in quality and either will give good service if properly installed.

Are you getting a heat pump, gas furnace, air conditioner?

lonestarheir
09-15-2005, 11:48 PM
Originally posted by RoBoTeq
Goodman is "NOT" Gibson! Nor does Gibson have anything to do with Goodman. They are not in the least related.

I believe Gibson is another Nordyne product.

You are exactly right on this Robo, Gibson IS NOT Goodman.

Gibson is a Nordyne product. Nordyne, according to their stats, has one of the lowest compressor failure rate in the business right now. I use Gibson on my lower end homes, but actually have a Nordyne condenser at my house - never any problems.

atufano
09-16-2005, 06:49 AM
Originally posted by RoBoTeq
Goodman is "NOT" Gibson! Nor does Gibson have anything to do with Goodman. They are not in the least related.

I believe Gibson is another Nordyne product.

Ok. That was the info I got from the distributor in my area.

arkight
09-16-2005, 08:21 AM
It is the inside and outside unit i dont believe that i need a heat pump in south texas am i wrong.

James 3528
09-16-2005, 09:30 AM
Gosh, a choice between crap and crap.

arkight
09-16-2005, 10:15 AM
ok then what would be your sugestion any one can do what you said but can you actually be of some usefullness and suggest something then.

7-11diet
09-16-2005, 10:16 AM
Originally posted by lonestarheir

Originally posted by RoBoTeq
Goodman is "NOT" Gibson! Nor does Gibson have anything to do with Goodman. They are not in the least related.

I believe Gibson is another Nordyne product.

You are exactly right on this Robo, Gibson IS NOT Goodman.

Gibson is a Nordyne product. Nordyne, according to their stats, has one of the lowest compressor failure rate in the business right now. I use Gibson on my lower end homes, but actually have a Nordyne condenser at my house - never any problems.
I use to install fridgadaire(higher end gibson)and i think i had one problem outta 50 installs(not bad).But like everyone says if installed properly wont have a problem with either :)

lonestarheir
09-16-2005, 10:52 AM
Originally posted by atufano

Ok. That was the info I got from the distributor in my area.

If a distributor is giving you that information, I would really consider asking them where the heck they got that from and would really worry about their reliability.


ok then what would be your sugestion any one can do what you said but can you actually be of some usefullness and suggest something then. [/b]

Either will do you justice as long as you research the installing company and make sure they do a good job.

[Edited by lonestarheir on 09-16-2005 at 11:01 AM]

lonestarheir
09-16-2005, 10:57 AM
Originally posted by arkight
It is the inside and outside unit i dont believe that i need a heat pump in south texas am i wrong.

Do you have natural gas in your home or does everthing run on electricity?

If you are all electric a heat pump would be perfect for you, a little more costly up front, but will save you loads of money in the long run.

Mr HVAC41
09-16-2005, 10:58 AM
Originally posted by RoBoTeq
Goodman is "NOT" Gibson! Nor does Gibson have anything to do with Goodman. They are not in the least related.

I believe Gibson is another Nordyne product.

true true
i like gibson personally. very cut and dry product. looks good and had no problems when i put in a 10 seer straight cool condenser to replace 30 year old airtemp. the 30 year old unit died while h.o. and myself were there. fan just stopped comp good no leaks neva had freezeon added.

but all around, gibson seems a good product. i reccomend if you have a lower budget or wont be at the house for more than 10 to 15 years. i've never had a service call for gibson either. just please please change the filter once a month, unless you have like an aprilaire 2200 or like and check 2x a year. also, get a yearly maint aggreement. if comp fails cause you didnt change filter, you just lost your warranty and you gotta pay! that little filter will be pocket change compared to a new system to replace your 2 yr old cause filter dirty!!!!!

arkight
09-16-2005, 11:09 AM
ok home is all elecrtic about 1650 sq ft built around 1983. Would the aditional cost of a heat pump be justified in Houston.

lonestarheir
09-16-2005, 01:33 PM
Originally posted by arkight
ok home is all elecrtic about 1650 sq ft built around 1983. Would the aditional cost of a heat pump be justified in Houston.

In my opinion it would be the best for you, otherwise you will just be throwing $$$ out the window using straight electric heat. In mild winter regions heat pumps are the way to go.

Mr HVAC41
09-16-2005, 03:01 PM
if you go h.p. you have less chance of running into the strip heat bandit.

RoBoTeq
09-16-2005, 03:31 PM
I agree with the use of the heat pump. Hell, in Houston, do you really even need auxilliary heaters?

James 3528
09-16-2005, 03:43 PM
Never put in a heat pump with out aux heaters.

Mr HVAC41
09-16-2005, 04:42 PM
well if you dont need them great but i'd rather have them if i needed them!

HVAC Pro
09-16-2005, 05:15 PM
Maybe 5kw to temper the air during defrost.

RoBoTeq
09-16-2005, 06:30 PM
Originally posted by James 3528
Never put in a heat pump with out aux heaters.

I was just asking :D

I had a Goodman minisplit HP in my office with no aux. and never had a problem. Come to think of it, I just put the same thing in my BILs work shop.

beenthere
09-16-2005, 06:49 PM
Hope which ever unit you choose, you go with a higher seer unit.

arkight
09-16-2005, 08:24 PM
how high should i go i was thinking it will take me 4.5 years according to the numbers i saw to recoup my gain under ideal conditions so it would probally be at least five if not more and i probally will only be in this home for about 5 years probally no more.

Mr HVAC41
09-16-2005, 10:05 PM
Originally posted by arkight
i probally will only be in this home for about 5 years probally no more.

really?!?! i get that a lot and find its all lies! who's leg are you pulling if you are pulling legs?

arkight
09-16-2005, 10:14 PM
Originally posted by mr hvac41

Originally posted by arkight
i probally will only be in this home for about 5 years probally no more.

really?!?! i get that a lot and find its all lies! who's leg are you pulling if you are pulling legs?

That is a certinity i will eather not be living in houston or i will be in the other side and i have no desier to drive over 1hr with no traffic.

inturmoil
09-17-2005, 03:04 AM
Do not install a york!!! The equipment is fine, but finding parts is a bear. In WA we have to deal with a very questionable outlet for york parts. Big pain in the ass! I am going through a difficult session with them right now! This is not the first time!!!
Buy a Trane.

beenthere
09-17-2005, 08:53 AM
If your sure your elec rate isn't going to go up next, or the next, you might want ot go with a lower seer.

We don't have much trouble with parts for York, it may be an area thing.

dash
09-17-2005, 08:55 AM
Originally posted by inturmoil
Do not install a york!!! The equipment is fine, but finding parts is a bear. In WA we have to deal with a very questionable outlet for york parts. Big pain in the ass! I am going through a difficult session with them right now! This is not the first time!!!
Buy a Trane.


Don't buy a Trane ,buy a ..........LOL


Parts and service ,vary by your location.

HVAC Pro
09-17-2005, 11:22 AM
Parts availability is definitely a location thing. There are 2 York distributors here (owned by the same person no less.) Getting York parts have never been a problem for me. Thankfully.

lonestarheir
09-18-2005, 10:47 PM
Since the work to be done is in Houston, there will be little to no problem finding parts. There are both York and Nordyne dealers in the greater Houston area and the only problem you may run into is a part being out of stock but shouldn't being they will be new units.

Good luck and let us know how it all goes. Post pics if you can.