ac only sends cold air for 5 min...HELP!!!

[raidersfan]

I had a new 4 ton hvac installed in a building the only thing is that when u turn it on it does the usual winding noise that units do and cold air is being blown however after a few minutes the unit seems to stop making any noise though the air is still being blown, but its warm air... does anyone have any idea what the cause or problem is..Thanks for any help.

[travisfl]

Originally posted by raidersfan
does anyone have any idea what the cause or problem is.Sorry, that's really insufficient data to give you much help.

How about calling the contractor that installed it?

[moe-air]

raidernation
you need to call out a/c company who installed your new unit.

[Gunnery Sergeant Hartman]

raidersfan

NO HELP FOR YOU!

[raidersfan]

well thats part of the problem the person who installed it was some guy my dad hired to hook it up...hes just a freelance handyman...and we havent been able to get a hold of him...is there any info,including pictures, i could get and post that might help with determining whats wrong...

[travisfl]

Please read the site rules:

http://www.hvac-talk.com/vbb/showthread.php?threadid=1241

A freelance handyman most likely doesn't have the skills or equipment to install a split air conditioning system. Did he even have an EPA 608 certificate?

By now the system is probably contaminated with moisture and other noncondensables. You need a qualified, licensed technician to diagnose and repair your system.

BTW, who decided that the system needed to be 4.0 tons?

[Black Adder]

Don't even go there buddy, get a service tech to look at it. You will have to pay someone if you can't get in touch with the original installer. Sorry but that's the way it is. There are so many things that could cause your problem and I would say on a new install there is nothing you can do yourself to repair it.

[lvkris]

You said it was "new". However what you describe sounds like a failed condenser fan motor. Maybe your dad can find another "freeeeeeeee lancer" to check it out.... Or maybe a licensed contractor, a professional, would be a better option....

PS - Go Raiders!

[Gunnery Sergeant Hartman]

You lost me at raiders fan.

Regards, Steeler fan

[core]

Let me give you some good advice.


STEP 1
The best thing to do is sit there and sweat, reflect on how stupid some people can be, and then open the phone book.
STEP 2
The fact that you would perfer to find the problem youself via this site tells me you need to read STEP 1 again

[tinknocker service tech]

Originally posted by core
Let me give you some good advice.


STEP 1
The best thing to do is sit there and sweat, reflect on how stupid some people can be, and then open the phone book.
STEP 2
The fact that you would perfer to find the problem youself via this site tells me you need to read STEP 1 again

listen to the best advise you can get
read above just in case you maiised it
great advice core

[thefreeze]

"does anyone have any idea what the cause or problem is"..

there is no problem, you got some guy off the street to do a professionals job so you could save money...you got what you paid for

[dpatty]

Unfortunately now you know why we charge those high prices.

[dorrmann]

Originally posted by Yellow Dot
You lost me at raiders fan.


I have to agree. Go BRONCOS!

[raidersfan]

dpatty
Professional Member

Registered: Aug 2004
Posts: 469
Unfortunately now you know why we charge those high prices.
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HVAC Contractor, Tyler Texas. See credentials for info.


07-15-2005 10:44 PM IP: Logged

You gonna tell me that its ok to charge $600 to connect the power wires and four thermastat wires that takes about 10-15mins tops....THATS A RIPOFF!!!!! which is what alot of the guys around here are....crooks who take advantage of people...

[billva]

who hooked up the refrigerant piping, while brazing with nitrogen?

who pressure tested the line set and then properly evacuated the system?

who started the system and checked the charge according to industry standards?

call the internet company for service or advice.

why 4 tons?

[dpatty]

If this is so simple why is it your on here asking us pros how to fix it. Theres a whole lot know how that comes with that $600 (LOL) that makes your ac blow cold air. When your done breaking that one I bet 600 will have seemed cheap by comparison.

No help for you, enjoy the heat.

[raidersfan]

HA HA u crooks....i fixed the **** myself...saved a few thousand dollars that u loosers will never see...overpriced...crooks!!!...lol

[billva]

Originally posted by raidersfan i fixed the **** myself... [/B]

and **** sir, i'm sure it is.

please tell us what you did, we may learn something.

[dpatty]

Originally posted by raidersfan
HA HA u crooks....i fixed the **** myself...saved a few thousand dollars that u loosers will never see...overpriced...crooks!!!...lol

Let see how you laugh when you find out what acidic oil is all about. Even if you did get it up and running you can be assured you will be hot again. Do a search on here and you will know what to look forward to. Enjoy

[Edited by dpatty on 07-18-2005 at 07:22 PM]

[heatpumpjesus]

Originally posted by raidersfan
HA HA u crooks....i fixed the **** myself...saved a few thousand dollars that u loosers will never see...overpriced...crooks!!!...lol

why did you fix **** ??? you should have fixed the A/C

[raidersfan]

oh and dpatty...

NO MONEY FOR YOU!!!!!LOL

[dave and julie]

You may pay more for a professional install but there is more to it than just installation. My HVAC guy is at my house right now replacing the chimney liner cap because birds are getting in. He also changed blower motors because we couldn't get the right delta T with the original. This probably costs him money, but he eats the charges because he stands behind his work and sees to it that his customers are satisfied. That's value for your money to me.

[raidersfan]

dave looks like ur got one of the few and very rare honest a/c guy....where I live, modesto CA, most guys and companies are crooks....it gets pretty hot here..in the 100's lately, and they take advantage of the fact that people need to have theyre ac workin...I wouldnt have a problem paying someone to work on it but im definitely not going to overpay for the hell of it....guess thats just the way it is...similar to other places like tow/impound companies...they know u need ur car so they charge u an arm and a leg to get it back...

[hvac r us 2]

Okay, I'll bite...what did you do to fix the unit?

[Carnak]

.

[Gunnery Sergeant Hartman]

Originally posted by raidersfan
dave looks like ur got one of the few and very rare honest a/c guy....where I live, modesto CA, most guys and companies are crooks....it gets pretty hot here..in the 100's lately, and they take advantage of the fact that people need to have theyre ac workin...I wouldnt have a problem paying someone to work on it but im definitely not going to overpay for the hell of it....guess thats just the way it is...similar to other places like tow/impound companies...they know u need ur car so they charge u an arm and a leg to get it back...

What do you do for a living there Raiderfan?

[Gunnery Sergeant Hartman]

Originally posted by raidersfan
oh and dpatty...

NO MONEY FOR YOU!!!!!LOL

Don't want any money from a Raider fan.

Its probably drugs, prostitution, or stolen money!!!

[jrbenny]

http://www.my-smileys.de/generator/signs2/a98a67727d9ab3f54b759688127781b6.png

Your cooperation is appreciated!

[raidersfan]

Im a computer tech....as well as a graphic artist...and just cuz i have some knowledge of pc's doesnt mean i would go and charge someone $600 to connect theyre PC and monitor just cuz that person might not know how....ETHICS!!!MORALS!!! some of us have some!!!!..

[arc8]

Hey Mr raider,

is there a company in merced called Coolshedd? if so, give him a call, he's an honest guy! and i'm not kidding, we use to work together.

Al

[dpatty]

Originally posted by raidersfan
oh and dpatty...

NO MONEY FOR YOU!!!!!LOL

That was funny..

Anyway...
Best money I never made.

Ever thought of going in biz for yourself? If you ever do you will eventually know what I mean.

[heatpumpjesus]

food for thought guys - one of our thoughts would probably bust his head wide open.

[Gunnery Sergeant Hartman]

Originally posted by raidersfan
Im a computer tech....as well as a graphic artist...and just cuz i have some knowledge of pc's doesnt mean i would go and charge someone $600 to connect theyre PC and monitor just cuz that person might not know how....ETHICS!!!MORALS!!! some of us have some!!!!..

Can you come fix my pc for say $20 an hour?

I think that is a fair price...

[beenthere]

Yellow, shouldn't that be 20 bucks period, not an hour.

After all, he has ethics, and morals.

[pstu]

Raidersfan, I too am a homeowner rather than a pro. But I have a ton of respect for the real professionals -- vs. the hacks. It certainly sounds like you have run into a few hacks and think everybody in the HVAC business is like that. They are not.

Think of it this way: you would be suspicious of a computer consultant costing less than say, $50 or $75 per hour. That amount is simply necessary for a pro in that field, to pay his bills and eat. Why not have a similarly charitable attitude toward HVAC professionals?

You never did explain what you did to fix your problem, nor what info you used to decide 4 tons is the correct size. Care to share that knowledge?

Regards -- P.Student

[atufano]

Originally posted by raidersfan
Im a computer tech....as well as a graphic artist...and just cuz i have some knowledge of pc's doesnt mean i would go and charge someone $600 to connect theyre PC and monitor just cuz that person might not know how....ETHICS!!!MORALS!!! some of us have some!!!!..


Don't draw a parallel between connecting a cable on a computer to repairing an A/C system. Playing with wires on those systems can kill you. So jumping on this messageboard and looking for help and then kicking dirt in the face of people who genuinely look out for your safety from experiance is extremely unprofessional.

These guys here meet people with the personality you are exhibiting on a daily basis and can spot you from a mile away. So you become fun fodder to kick and throw around, at your request.

Ethics and morals is giving a man his pay for good services rendered. Here is some tips for if you need a good service technician. Shop around, ask for referrals, ask for prices before the service technician arrives or is dispatched. Clean neat appearance, professional manners, explains the problem before he fixes it and gives you the total cost. Same thing you would expect from any repair person.

Remember, you came here asking for help. We offered what is the best solution for your needs from our perspective.

[atufano]

Originally posted by lvkris
You said it was "new". However what you describe sounds like a failed condenser fan motor. Maybe your dad can find another "freeeeeeeee lancer" to check it out.... Or maybe a licensed contractor, a professional, would be a better option....

PS - Go Raiders!

Funny thing you say that. We've had a run of York Cond. where the fan would freeze and somehow get bound. Do the install and test the system. A couple of days later call back. The fans were binding. Never found out why...

[azel6]

MAYBE YOU SHOULD GO OUTSIDE WHEN THE UNIT IS RUNNING AND SEE WHAT IT IS DOING.IT SOUNDS LIKE THE COMPRESSOR IS SHUTTING OFF DURING OPERATION,MAYBE LOW ON REFRIDG. AND OVERHEATING.