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Twilly
05-02-2005, 04:20 PM
jultzya
Did bkoz tell you the conclusion of the "tech" that came to her house. They said it was common knowledge that the condensation pump could cause the board to lock out.

I have not heard this have you. I wonder why it would rear its ugly head after 12 years? Sounds odd to me.


I also wonder why the other thread was closed? I couldn't post to it can you?

Jultzya
05-02-2005, 05:25 PM
You mention FE and now the thread is closed!
Why???? I would like to know too.

You got your story wrong, or my story is wrong.

I was told it was the 'condensate grounding wire'????, and that it needed to be unhooked so the board wouldn't lock up! :D

Ever heard of a 'condensate grounding wire'????????? Hehe..

It's common knowledge that the boards will cause problems if it's not grounded properly. This will happen after the unit gets old, rusted, repaired (and **** not put back). The grounding is done through out the manifold, screws, and everything else in its path. After they get dirty/corroded they don't make a good ground and start causing problems.

(kinda like the Honeywell S8600)

Twilly
05-02-2005, 05:41 PM
Originally posted by jultzya
You mention FE and now the thread is closed!
Why???? I would like to know too.

You got your story wrong, or my story is wrong.

I was told it was the 'condensate grounding wire'????, and that it needed to be unhooked so the board wouldn't lock up! :D

Ever heard of a 'condensate grounding wire'????????? Hehe..

It's common knowledge that the boards will cause problems if it's not grounded properly. This will happen after the unit gets old, rusted, repaired (and **** not put back). The grounding is done through out the manifold, screws, and everything else in its path. After they get dirty/corroded they don't make a good ground and start causing problems.

(kinda like the Honeywell S8600)


I know that boards can have lockout problems due to grounding issues, but I have never heard of blaming the condensation "pump". Send me an email and I'll send you the eamil that I got.

Those guys sound goody to me.

Maybe you can find out why the thread was closed. You think it was F/E? hummmmmmm. Lusker says he talks to him every day.

Twilly
05-02-2005, 05:43 PM
Good Morning Terry.

I did have the Comfortmaker service company OWNER out this morning. He agreed with the wire that I plugged in from the high limit switch and called the Comfortmaker tech that they have access to to confirm his strategy. Even though the error light was on steadily, they both agreed that the furnaces with the serial number installed in 1993 had problems with the condensate grounding wire needing to be unplugged, leaving it in can cause errors in the board. He said that they would not replace the whole board until they ruled that out because it was common knowledge about needing to unplug that wire. I also told him about what you guys said about the rings, heat exchanger, etc. and he said this was not the model or the year that they had problems with in the past.

Although I'm getting a little tired of all this, it has been kind of fun with my new friends!

Have a good week,


Here is my letter from Bkoz

Jultzya
05-02-2005, 05:49 PM
Well why did you ask for an e-mail? LOL
Anyway, the e-mail is on its way.

The paragraph is the same as what she sent me, and I basically stated the 'condensate grounding wire', never heard off one, and never heard of such problem!

Jultzya
05-02-2005, 05:51 PM
I'm going to get pictures of this unit to see what is actually being done to it.

Looks like we might just have to have that road trip after all! :D

hvacprodmgr
05-02-2005, 11:11 PM
OK, here I am butting in again.

When did the condensate level sensor come into play ? I missed that one, or was not reading through.

That model had a sensor that was in the drain trap underneath and any condensation would cause it to trip and send out a 6 flash code on that White Rodgers board. This was the same code as the "grounded sensor circuit"

For more info, let me know. It's back in my office in some old files and I could get it to you.

Jultzya
05-02-2005, 11:35 PM
This new info was in an e-mail to twilli and myself.
(from the original poster, bkoz)

Please get me the information. As, I would like to read it. You already know where to send the file.

Did you get my last e-mail? As, I haven't heard from you.

Now, twilli is going to go into over drive with you butting in, but I'll keep him off of you if he gets to rowdy. ;) He11 if we keep it going, this thread will likely be closed also. LOL Are we troublemakers? If so, nobody told me! :D

Tks.

Twilly
05-03-2005, 06:24 PM
That's news to me. I'm waiting to hear from Bkoz. I see no reason for the old thread to be closed? However it's not my site and I'm just a guest. Maybe because I'm from Ohio they gave us the booth, or maybe we were just having too much fun.

Jultzya
05-03-2005, 06:44 PM
Too much fun and making things interesting!

Oh well, we have a new thread now! :D

I haven't heard any further problems. If I do, I'll let you know.

BTW, You make sure you leave my little buddy (Mgr) alone! You hear me? He's a good guy, just like us! ;)

Twilly
05-03-2005, 06:48 PM
I'm have a new respect for manager since he screwed up. I realize he was human and realize he's an ok guy. He blamed in on the turnpike. But I think it was something illegal.

Smokin if you get my drift.

tinknocker service tech
05-03-2005, 07:46 PM
how many times must one say she is mine, mine ,all mine
it is true these older comfortmaker units have a rod at the bottom of the heatexchange in the condensate tray. if it gets wet it will lock out the unit so it doesnt fill up with water. disconnecting it is a mistake and they will be back again. unit will fill up with water and shut down
gee i think it is sad these guys keep going back and not fixing this thing correctly once and for all. if she looks that good then they should just ask her out and stop acting like dummies.
bkoz)

if you read this email is Vtinknockercomcastnet
i think it is time to go on a trip and fixe this thing. might take a week or two but what fun we could have
wayne

Twilly
05-03-2005, 09:10 PM
Tinknocker, why you trying to get my girl? Your smart but I'm smarter, she wants me. I can solve her problem, heck I wouldn't even waste my time trying to fix her furnace. I'd give her a new one.

She would fall in love with me. I'll have the old one shipped down to you and you can fix it and give it to some other girl.

Trying to sneek your email address by the BOTS huh, if i was a tattletail I'd report you.

I told you for $2.00 i'd send you her email address. You got the money or not?

tinknocker service tech
05-03-2005, 09:33 PM
i am a bad boy lol
trieing to get it in my profile
some day i will learn how to use this pc maybe
only one question
where is our picture

hvacprodmgr
05-03-2005, 10:21 PM
Originally posted by twilli3967
I'm have a new respect for manager since he screwed up. I realize he was human and realize he's an ok guy. He blamed in on the turnpike. But I think it was something illegal.

Smokin if you get my drift.



Gee Thanks, I guess ! :D :eek:

What was I smokin' that day? Who knows ? I have enough trouble remembering yesterday

hvacprodmgr
05-03-2005, 10:22 PM
Originally posted by jultzya
This new info was in an e-mail to twilli and myself.
(from the original poster, bkoz)

Please get me the information. As, I would like to read it. You already know where to send the file.

Did you get my last e-mail? As, I haven't heard from you.

Now, twilli is going to go into over drive with you butting in, but I'll keep him off of you if he gets to rowdy. ;) He11 if we keep it going, this thread will likely be closed also. LOL Are we troublemakers? If so, nobody told me! :D

Tks.


Should be able to get the info tomorrow. Will get it to 'ya
Yup, got the e-mail just fine.

Jultzya
05-03-2005, 10:32 PM
Originally posted by twilli3967
Tinknocker, why you trying to get my girl? Your smart but I'm smarter, she wants me. I can solve her problem, heck I wouldn't even waste my time trying to fix her furnace. I'd give her a new one.
I told you for $2.00 i'd send you her email address. You got the money or not?

Wouldn't try to fix the old one, CAUSE YOU CAN'T! LOL
Replace it like the rest of the no nothing hacks, Eh?

You're just tring to sell her e-mail address so you can pay off your bets! That's low. What happen the bank turn down the new morgage?


[Edited by jultzya on 05-03-2005 at 10:36 PM]

Jultzya
05-03-2005, 11:17 PM
Originally posted by tinknocker service tech
how many times must one say she is mine, mine ,all mine

gee i think it is sad these guys keep going back and not fixing this thing correctly once and for all.

Boy, you better get your facts straighten out real quick! Or else, I'm going to have Twilli make a trip to see you. I'm going to send him as I have a more important trip somewhere in MI.

I also feel saddened by all the incompetence she has endured. (I think she knows as much as any of the techs at this point in time) It is completely out of line. I wonder who the guy was on the other end of that cell phone call. Whether it was another tech, or actually a CSR for ICP.

I'm really beginning to think we should maybe just have a meeting there one day. Schedule a training seminar for all the techs in the area! :D

tinknocker service tech
05-03-2005, 11:55 PM
jultzya
the bet is a wash. heat exchanger is good i wow
no picture twilli won there for a wash
twilli i think i will just save my money for now
sooner or later she will relize i am the better man and you will just watch and weep
all kidding asside has anyone heard if it was fixed yet
just courious

Jultzya
05-04-2005, 12:18 AM
Verdict is still out. I will post when the situation is over, and is completely resolved.

So, Twilli owes you a dollar for the HE and you owe him 2 for the picture? So, you are the one looking for the morgage? Hehehehe......

Jultzya
05-06-2005, 03:06 AM
Originally posted by twilli3967
I also wonder why the other thread was closed?

I guess we'll never know? :confused:

Jultzya
05-09-2005, 11:20 PM
Everything is working so far. The weather has warmed up, so the unit hasn't ran very much. But all is well so far.

Still no picture! :) LOL