View Full Version : convert hoshizaki cube to flake?
websiterepairguy
04-22-2005, 07:33 PM
I have had some people tell me you can buy the drum to replace the cube maker in a hoshizaki flaker. is this true and if it is , i bet its not cheap?
icemeister
04-22-2005, 09:02 PM
I've never heard of that one. :eek:
websiterepairguy
04-22-2005, 11:59 PM
yeah i thought he was full of balogny
t527ed
04-23-2005, 10:39 AM
it would have to be cheaper to sell the cuber and buy the flaker. drum, gear drive , water assembly, new control package etc. etc probably cheaper to throw away cuber and buy flaker after thinking about it.
R12rules
04-23-2005, 07:23 PM
Hey Dice ... doesnt Scotsman make an accessory blender to run the ice thru and make it curshed?
That gives the owner some "Options"....:)
condenseddave
04-23-2005, 08:04 PM
We had installed one of those horrific pieces of **** at the request of a good customer, about 10 years ago. I cannot remember the manufacturer name, but it sat between the cuber and the bin, and had a large SS set of jaws that rotated at a relatively high speed when the machine went into harvest.
It was belt drive, and went through more belts and motors inside of a year than the average supermarket uses in their hole store in 5 years.
It was awful. It was expensive. It was VERY breakable. It was LOUD. It was the only one I ever saw, and that is fine by me.
Dowadudda
04-23-2005, 08:24 PM
I am surprized by that Dave. Up here, flakers are in every supermarket. They use them in the Fish Dept, to display fish in the service fish cases.
The flaker Ice machine is real popular in my area as well because they use them a lot in research stuff and Ann Arbor has a huge research community, along with the universities.
I have worked on many. There a huge pain in the ass. If they are taken care of and your cleaning them and following very strict timely maintenances, they do okay. But no one pays for that. It's such a hard way to make ice, talking in terms of the equipment it takes and the beating they take to make that fancy flake.
I actually advise people to buy cubers and then buy the crusher to make flake ice away from the ice production unit.
Don't get me wrong. I think there cool. And I think it could be great filler work and income to clean them as they are required, but like I said, no one is ever interested in the maintenance. Since knowing a few things about these machines, I have actually spoken with guys who work at the Big 3 over the years that they manufacture them with a 5 to 7 year duty life expectation. It's just a tough way to make ice. I recently seen an old time old school voigt, bigger guy. Now when getting up in that size, it's much more industrial and built to last. But the ones you most likely were talking about, the smaller stuff. There not so tough.
websiterepairguy
04-23-2005, 09:29 PM
I actually advise people to buy cubers and then buy the crusher to make flake ice away from the ice production unit.
can you elaborate? we're in need of a flaker for our fish case... hard to find. cubers are everywhere.
i had talked to someone about using a shaver but frowned at the extra workload for the store.
skunky
04-24-2005, 07:47 PM
cheaper to buy a flaker and install than do that voght ice machines make ice grinder that the cubes fall into after harvesting but i dont think hoshi has anything like that
condenseddave
04-24-2005, 11:52 PM
Originally posted by Dowadudda
I am surprized by that Dave. Up here, flakers are in every supermarket. They use them in the Fish Dept, to display fish in the service fish cases.
The flaker Ice machine is real popular in my area as well because they use them a lot in research stuff and Ann Arbor has a huge research community, along with the universities.
I have worked on many. There a huge pain in the ass. If they are taken care of and your cleaning them and following very strict timely maintenances, they do okay. But no one pays for that. It's such a hard way to make ice, talking in terms of the equipment it takes and the beating they take to make that fancy flake.
I actually advise people to buy cubers and then buy the crusher to make flake ice away from the ice production unit.
Don't get me wrong. I think there cool. And I think it could be great filler work and income to clean them as they are required, but like I said, no one is ever interested in the maintenance. Since knowing a few things about these machines, I have actually spoken with guys who work at the Big 3 over the years that they manufacture them with a 5 to 7 year duty life expectation. It's just a tough way to make ice. I recently seen an old time old school voigt, bigger guy. Now when getting up in that size, it's much more industrial and built to last. But the ones you most likely were talking about, the smaller stuff. There not so tough.
I'm not talking about flakers, I'm referring to the device that crushes cubed ice on it's way down the chute from the cuber to the bin.
I can't think of how many flakers I've worked on over the years. Mostly Hoshis and Howes.
cagedodgeman
05-01-2005, 12:45 PM
for smaller applications I have come to like working on the Follet flakers, I have gotten very familiar with them over the years and it is still the simplest way to make flaked ice, the hoshi flaker is ok but has too many "things that go wrong"
as for converting from cubed to flaked or vise versa without a crusher, it is best to just replace the head with what you require
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