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BurnerMan
01-09-2011, 04:23 PM
Right out of the gate I'm a combustion guy, working on oil, and gas. I have a great knowledge in boilers, furnaces and water heaters. But I have a question about heat pumps. My father in law is down in N.C. and he is going to replace the hole unit air handler, line sets, and condenser. What is a good manufacture that is made different not have different labels slapped on the same unit like Noradyne does. And what seer do you think he should have. Maybe mix and match like example Heil compressor and First co air handler just saying. Tell me what you guys see out there that has less break down and heats well. Warranty I guess means something and back up source. Thank you guys!
trey r
01-09-2011, 04:38 PM
Right out of the gate I'm a combustion guy, working on oil, and gas. I have a great knowledge in boilers, furnaces and water heaters. But I have a question about heat pumps. My father in law is down in N.C. and he is going to replace the hole unit air handler, line sets, and condenser. What is a good manufacture that is made different not have different labels slapped on the same unit like Noradyne does. And what seer do you think he should have. Maybe mix and match like example Heil compressor and First co air handler just saying. Tell me what you guys see out there that has less break down and heats well. Warranty I guess means something and back up source. Thank you guys!
Your about to open a can of worms!
I like Trane, the 16i is what I have installed in my house. Two step compressor, nice and quiet.
We install mostly Trane and Amana Ive had a more reliability issues with the Amana. Both are good systems.
He should invest in an extended warranty no matter the brand.
BaldLoonie
01-09-2011, 04:49 PM
Your best performance is a system all made by one company. Only time I'd suggest a First Co. air handler is if you have a specialty application that no equipment maker can fill.
Otherwise, staying all 1 brand means products designed & tested to work with one another.
If Nordyne doesn't make their own air handlers, who does?
dandyme
01-09-2011, 06:02 PM
I'm not sure what the question is?:gah:
Trane-American Standard-Cumberland
Carrier-Bryant-Sierra-Day&Nite-Payne
Rheem-Ruud-can't remember the other
beenthere
01-09-2011, 06:12 PM
They all put different names on the same equipment.
Home&Marine
01-09-2011, 06:21 PM
They all put different names on the same equipment.
Sometimes they even use the same parts to make different equipment.
It's a good idea to replace the Hole Line Set... :gah:
energy star
01-09-2011, 06:23 PM
The most common sticker is assembled/made in Mexico seems to be on all equipment.
dijit
01-09-2011, 06:34 PM
As far as SEER you have to compare what you would save with how much more you would pay for the unit.
Not really sure how great this calculator is but will at least give you an idea
http://www.hvacopcost.com/
dijit
01-09-2011, 06:36 PM
Does anyone know off the top of their head if a higher seer would have a higher COP at low temps? When heating with a heat pump.
energy star
01-09-2011, 06:45 PM
If that little app is accurate, I like it.
snewman24
01-09-2011, 08:45 PM
As far as SEER you have to compare what you would save with how much more you would pay for the unit.
Not really sure how great this calculator is but will at least give you an idea
http://www.hvacopcost.com/
Ya know, I don't know about the cooling side of that calculator, but the heating side is way off. When I use it to estimate the heating costs of my own house, with known gas consumption figures, it calculates the gas bill at more than twice what I pay every year.
beenthere
01-10-2011, 03:54 AM
Does anyone know off the top of their head if a higher seer would have a higher COP at low temps? When heating with a heat pump.
usually it does. But not always. Plus, sometimes the higher COP unit, may be providing less BTUs.
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