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Renachel
12-31-2010, 03:43 PM
Does anyone know of a direct vent oil furnace with an AFUE of 90 or above?

Thanks

beenthere
12-31-2010, 05:01 PM
Does anyone know of a direct vent oil furnace with an AFUE of 90 or above?

Thanks

You mean the one that you generally need to have cleaned twice a year.

chuckcrj
12-31-2010, 05:47 PM
You mean the one that you generally need to have cleaned twice a year.

Kind of eats up the fuel savings!

Someone over in the pro forum said they could tune it so it would run 2 years without cleaning.

REP
12-31-2010, 08:58 PM
Its much cheaper and easier to just bang your head against a cinder block wall every time you think about this type of furnace.

Renachel
12-31-2010, 09:16 PM
Have no choice but to go with a DV...Either that or put a chimney up. Old unit is a Crown Power Vent. So, would like to find one with a 90+ rating, if they even exist.

BaldLoonie
12-31-2010, 09:39 PM
They exist. Adams, Kerr to name a couple.

But, can you get a conventional furnace and get a power vent kit?

Actually you can...

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Renachel
12-31-2010, 10:36 PM
Thanks...I think my HVAC guy and I are gonna have a little discussion next week. He's telling me the Peerless DV WV is the best replacement system out there

BaldLoonie
01-01-2011, 08:56 AM
You're talking about a boiler. Never heard of any condensing boilers.

The WV-DV probably is the answer if you need to side vent a boiler. Most boilermakers have similar products. With the WV-DV you are looking at some good AFUEs and Peerless makes a good boiler. The key is proper installation and setup and NOT OVERSIZED! Around here, anyway, too many like to oversize boilers.

beenthere
01-01-2011, 09:36 AM
The Weil McLain Ultra oil boiler can be direct vented.

86% AFUE Its not condensing.

Renachel
01-01-2011, 09:38 AM
Ah, I see. Thank you. Great input from you guys...appreciated very much.
Happy New Year.

Renachel
01-01-2011, 11:04 AM
From what I understand, the downside on anything less than 90% is that you can't get the Fed tax credit. Bummer!

snupytcb
01-02-2011, 09:57 AM
biasi has a dv also. i have put many of them in. as a matter of fact i have an emergency b10-6 going in today.

hydronicsman
01-02-2011, 12:07 PM
The Buderus GB125BE is condensing oil and can be direct vented. 91%+ AFUE. The Buderus G125BE is 90%+ and can be direct vented. Both tax credit qualified.

heaterman
01-02-2011, 02:27 PM
The big credit has expired, for now it's replace by a shadow of it's former self.

Renachel
01-02-2011, 02:30 PM
Thanks...looked it up and it appears that the difference in cost between the Peerless DV and the Buderus more than washes out the tax credit. If I work the math on the oil savings between an 84% vs. a 90%, based on my usage, it's gonna take quite a while to amortize the difference. Am I figuring this right?

Thanks again....

beenthere
01-02-2011, 02:41 PM
Just 20 years or so.

Renachel
01-02-2011, 03:18 PM
Yeah, right...At age 67, I think I'll spend the money on some good wine.

sktn77a
01-02-2011, 04:10 PM
But, can you get a conventional furnace and get a power vent kit?


We had a regular 80% direct vent (no chimney/flue) furnace that we had to get an external powervent kit for after the UltraVent recall. It was a nightmare from day one. The motor was noisy, died every 2 years, and was several hundred dollars to replace. I would avoid this setup after my experience!

Renachel
01-02-2011, 04:44 PM
I hear you....already replaced the power vent three years ago on the Crown I've got now. The Peerless DV doesn't require one.

hydronicsman
01-02-2011, 10:58 PM
Do some more research on DV three pass boilers. Then you can get at least Energy Star 86% +/- units. I know Buderus G115 (WS) can be had in DV, not sure if Burnham's MPO can be DV. I've done the Peerless before, it's ok, just that it's a pin boiler and you can do better efficiency-wise with a scotch marine type.