View Full Version : New Construction Rough-in
10-31-2004, 06:19 PM
Just curious if anyone from North Carolina (or elsewhere) can tell me what work consists on a new construction rough-in. I've heard different ways to do this. Also how are the contracts written for payment. Here I hear so many different ways of doing things so I was hoping for some outside advice.
10-31-2004, 09:01 PM
i consider a rough-in....as far as i can go with the system once i get started,till their construction stops me....normally get 75 percent down.
air of honesty
11-01-2004, 10:17 AM
New construction (working for the builder)
All the thought, knowledge, time and effort go into the rough in, which is all work that must be performed before the insulation and sheetrockers go in. This is the 'value added' part that differentiates you from the jerk who threw the materials in the garage and told a sub where to find them.
Once the building is 'rocked and ready, any idiot can set grills and a condenser. Builders are not always nice people, and lawsuits cost more than the money you get stiffed. Always take the bulk of profit with your roughin payment. Leave enough for a decent paycheck for the time involved in finish out, but do not defer profit earned. Note: profit, not cost. The cost of the condensing unit and labor charges should be in the final payment, but take your profit when you do the bulk of the work. Be certain of your payment arrangements before you spend money. Their pay-out may be longer than your credit hold.
New construction (working for the owners)
Different every time, usually more face time involved, perhaps more trips. Work it out.
Word of warning: the more expensive the structure, the more important that everything be in simple black and white before beginning. Only times I've ever been seriously hurt moneywise were by 'nice people' whose business cards were embossed with Christian symbols and for whom money was no object. Spell it out, get your checks on time. Make sure they 'Render unto Ceasar.'
11-04-2004, 05:28 PM
Most all houuses here are crawl spaces. So on single story homes all we do is cut and nail in boots and returns make sure to seal them with mastic. Run t-stat wire and venting (dryer and bath).If you are doing a two story home all the duct and air handler/ furnace will have to be set on rough in for the up stairs. Basicaly any thing that could be covered up will have to be completed befor rough in inspection is made. We usually bill acording to the amount of work we have completed. On asingle story home most of the work is at final I would hate to have to do that after all the profit was already spent.
11-04-2004, 05:59 PM
Originally posted by air of honesty
Only times I've ever been seriously hurt moneywise were by 'nice people' whose business cards were embossed with Christian symbols Very true words here. Almost every person I have ever met in my life who advertised how great a Christian they were turned out to be the most lying, cheating and the biggest hypocrite.
The best Christians I have ever met do not gloat or advertise their faith. You can see it in how they carry themselves and in their actions in business.
never deal with ministers anymore, we want to talk with the heads of the church, the ones paying the bills. I think the ministers travel around so much that they get to know all the scams and use them. I hate having to look at it that way but from past experiance I dont trust them. To be honest every person in this trade that has acted real religous has been pretty slezy too,have worked with quite a few that used religion to let the customer lower his guard just long enough for them to screw them over . Not saying everyone is like that but when religon comes into the conversation ,my guard comes up.
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