LowBoy replacement

[2hot2coolme]

Just as I thought these were outta commision...

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[ct_hvac_tech]

Very nice work. There are many Williamson 5-in-1 units left here in Connecticut that are oil-fired.

P.S. Was it a BULL job? :-)

[ricm]

Your customer's neighbour must have one of the newer Buffalo package units... :D

[mayguy]

I don't think that was a Williamson.. For sure it's not a 5-in-1.

Sure see alot of joints on the gas line going to the furnace.

Last question, what is that box on the return drop?

[2hot2coolme]

Originally posted by ricm
Your customer's neighbour must have one of the newer Buffalo package units... :D


I was suprised to see this, I had no idea there were Buffalo in Illinois...there was a whole herd of them...guess i need to get out more. :)

[2hot2coolme]

Originally posted by mayguy
I don't think that was a Williamson.. For sure it's not a 5-in-1.

Sure see alot of joints on the gas line going to the furnace.

Last question, what is that box on the return drop?

Joint 1 is 3/4" -1/2" bell reducer, 2 is coupling 3 is gas cock 4 is union, what up?

That box is a UV light.

[Senior Tech]

The only thing I see that I don't like is that stair exercise looking thing...too much work.
Install looks very professional...

[Senior Tech]

Originally posted by ct_hvac_tech
Very nice work. There are many Williamson 5-in-1 units left here in Connecticut that are oil-fired.

P.S. Was it a BULL job? :-)

Mueller-Climatrol perhaps...5 in 1...doubtful.

[ricm]

curious then... although I haven't seen the 'outgoing' unit before in over 25 years of the trade... (obviously not up north in canada here)... I would suspect that there are enough features about it that make it unique into it's own right.... why is there controversy as to what type of unit this was?

Ok, I'll bite 2hot... any possible prospect at putting the guessing game to rest? :) What brand, make model IS the outgoing hardware?

Funny thing too... because of this darned 'mad cow' crisis between our borders... we see so many buffalo... that the cowboys here saddle 'em up and ride these puppies to work! :D

[BaldLoonie]

Not a Willie, they wouldn't have ribbon burners. Logo looks like a Climatrol. Backbreaker none-the-less.

Looks good to me. Did you line the chimney?

[jobsteer]

Pretty job,

I try to get my guys to notice that neatness counts.
I did have a question about your humidifier. I believe thats and Aprilaire 600, right. Doesnt Trane and Aprilaire recommend to not install Humidifiers on Cased A-Coils?
Nonetheless, nice job.

jobsteer

[square2round]

Looks like a Honeywell.

[square2round]

By the way...nice job.

[2hot2coolme]

Thanx for the comments. The old unit was a Mueller/Climatrol for those inquiring minds :D
and it still was a beast to remove, even though i've seen units twice this size. I'm still getting over a herniated disk from 2 weeks ago, so it didn't make things any easier.
Good thing...ME STRONG LIKE BULL!

[2hot2coolme]

Originally posted by jobsteer
Pretty job,

I try to get my guys to notice that neatness counts.
I did have a question about your humidifier. I believe thats and Aprilaire 600, right. Doesnt Trane and Aprilaire recommend to not install Humidifiers on Cased A-Coils?
Nonetheless, nice job.

jobsteer

I didn't hear anything about not installing humidifiers on cased coils, it's an Aprilaire 700 (power humidifier) although on them cased coils, there is a plastic drain pan that would be used if it were a horizontal install. I always take those out and make a patch for where the condensate drain opening is, other than that,I don't see why it couldn't be placed there.

[2hot2coolme]

Originally posted by BaldLoonie
Not a Willie, they wouldn't have ribbon burners. Logo looks like a Climatrol. Backbreaker none-the-less.

Looks good to me. Did you line the chimney?

Backbreaker is right!
Chimney has liner.

[markwolf]

Looks nice & neat.I put humidifiers on the return air,if there is a malfunction it ruins sheet metal not the furnace.I put the uv lights in the supply to kill the junk on the a-coil.I hope the helper wiped off some of the extra pipe dope on the gas piping lol.

[rookie79]

yo! 2hot i thought you retired or your cam broke nice to see your pics in the wall of pride again, nice work!

[2hot2coolme]

Originally posted by markwolf
I put the uv lights in the supply to kill the junk on the a-coil.I hope the helper wiped off some of the extra pipe dope on the gas piping lol. [/B]
The UV is preferable at the supply, but tell me if you see any room for that thing on the supply side.

[bennytec]

I wish my metal looked that good. was all that built on site ?

[2hot2coolme]

Originally posted by bennyapprentice
I wish my metal looked that good. was all that built on site ?
Don't you worry dude, if you enjoy doing this kinda work, you will be just as good...if not better!
And yes, I do all my sheetmetal work on site. The best investment I made was my $2500.00 portable pittsburg & brake, it paid for itself over 100 times!

[markco]

Chimney has liner. [/B]Where is the drip tee? By the way, just worked on one of those Muellers the other day, had to replace the millivolt gas valve. Took forever for the fan to come on. Heat exchanger must be made out of 1/4" steel!

[2hot2coolme]

Originally posted by markco
[QUOTE]
Where is the drip tee?

HUH? What the heck is that? Does that come with the liner kit? Cause I sure didn't see that when I tossed the empty box.

[ricm]

ROFLMAO 2 Hot...

always get a giggle outta some of your posts... :D I'm guessing that Marko means the chimney drip tee... in some places (I myself thought everywhere, you needed a tee for the b'vent... Vertical chimney, a tee at the bottom for condensate to 'drip into'... especially in cold climates like mine... where if you didn't have a drip tee... you'd rot out a heat exchanger in less than three years.

but BaldLoonie set me on the straight path... like... DUH! If it's not subzero temps... no condensate! or atleast not enough to worry about...

So I humbly sat back, sipped on a beer, thought about it... and now realize... there are lame-assed people, such as myself, that need to think outside of Subzero conditions, and Canadian strict-assed codes! :D

[ricm]

Case in point... a radiant tube heater I found today, that was a beautiful install, for the most part... but the venting was wrong... the equipment was reliable... but...

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[2hot2coolme]

Originally posted by ricm
Case in point... a radiant tube heater I found today, that was a beautiful install, for the most part... but the venting was wrong... the equipment was reliable... but...

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Well i guess being in Canada, it is much colder up there, to where I can sort of understand the drip tee thing, but still don't picture how this is used/ installed.
What is that debris in the pipe? hard to tell what the cause is. Excuse my ignorance, but it looks like just some kind of rusty metal in a pipe. (Actually, a lot of rusty metal in a pipe) :)

[ricm]

Good call my Brother... Rusty metal caused by poor venting... almost all of this gak is from condensate that collected in the exhaust of this 'direct vent' appliance. It took about six years for it to get to this state.... the pipe you are looking at is two inches in diameter, and full of the deteriorated parent metal of the rotted out exhaust pipe, surrouned by 4" of 26 guage intake pipe...

although I'm not a huge fan of 'direct vent' Intake systems here in the north. It works often... but some installs require more research and 'practice' before it can work... some of these last 20+ years... but others like this... last less than 6.

[icyhotnyc]

no drip t needed if not pulling combustible air from outdoors

[markwolf]

Originally posted by 2hot2coolme

Originally posted by markwolf
I put the uv lights in the supply to kill the junk on the a-coil.I hope the helper wiped off some of the extra pipe dope on the gas piping lol.
The UV is preferable at the supply, but tell me if you see any room for that thing on the supply side.
[/B]lol-you wasted the room you had with a cased coil your metal looks nicer than the case next time ditch it!

[T Martin]

only see two problems, return grill in basement and the lack of a belt on the helper.... otherwise great job

[2hot2coolme]

Originally posted by T Martin
only see two problems, return grill in basement and the lack of a belt on the helper.... otherwise great job

Yeah, I thought about putting a patch on the return, just that the return itself was a little small to begin with, figured i'd leave it, to get as much as possible. It was either that or put in a new return trunkline...I don't think the guy wanted to spend the money though.

I didn't notice the pants hangin off until i posted, but i do remember him saying he forgot his belt and kept tugging on his pants all day long, I was ready to bust out the duct tape...Quit staring at his ass! :D

[2hot2coolme]

Although, come to think of it, that register is a supply register, and it was closed, to the point that i couldn't open it by hand...now it's all comin back to me :)