CARRIER SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

[supertek65]

carrier sucks
that unit is a piece of s#iit@!!!!!!!!!!!!

that is what one of our employees told our customer after we did a $160,000 job for them !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

nice!!!!!!!:gah:

[knave]

Nice employee.:tussor:

[Senior Tech]

carrier sucks
that unit is a piece of s#iit@!!!!!!!!!!!!

that is what one of ourEX employees told our customer after we did a $160,000 job for them !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

nice!!!!!!!:gah:


:gah:

[76olds]

Really? You really need to have a discussion with your employees on when to shut the f--k up. There is a lot of things i will say in the office, but man, in front of the customer.

[Danimal535]

Their tech support sucks you start from India then after 3 more levels you end up with a real tech from Syracuse.

[supertek65]

that is funny!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i am just an employee and fellow brother!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If i was a boss he would be X

:gah:

[jpsmith1cm]

Really? You really need to have a discussion with your employees on when to shut the f--k up. There is a lot of things i will say in the office, but man, in front of the customer.

Ditto.

I've got opinions on equipment and will offer them in a civil manner UNTIL someone buys something.

Once they've bought it, it's the best peice of equipment I've ever worked on.

Among techs, over beers or keyboards????

Yeah, that's when I get honest.

[jpsmith1cm]

that is funny!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i am just an employee and fellow brother!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If i was a boss he would be X

Isn't it funny how some people can get away with crap like that?

I'm constantly amazed at what a particular co-worker of mine can do and say and get away with it.

I'd have been out on my a$$ long ago saying and doing what he has.

[Diceman]

What an idiot.

[vmc1161]

Their tech support sucks you start from India then after 3 more levels you end up with a real tech from Syracuse.



I have never spoken to anyone from India for Carrier tech support in the over thirty five years I've been doing this. I have had great support from them over those years... I have heard they don't like jerks ... you're not a jerk by any chance ... are you?


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[Danimal535]

no just don't like their tiered support when I call and on a job and I tell them I am a contractor and they ask me dumb questions then send me up the chain till I finally get somebody with knowledge and he can answerer my question in two minutes when I have been talking two three other dumb a$$es who were reading some dumb questions off their computer screen that probably dont even know any thing about fixing equipment for 45 min yes that pisses me off.

[Danimal535]

It was not like that in the past They had in store tec support at our local Carrier notheast but they cut his job and now only have non educated counter people and salsemen. I was kidding obout India thats Honeywell

[viceman]

my carrier distributer is standard air and light. their tech support is un-match. simply the best. i have never heard of carrier tiered tech support. it must vary by location.
if they can't solve the issue on the phone they will come to the job site.

john and rick will get you off the roof.

[Danimal535]

Carrier north east is now Totaline

[supertek65]

you can always count on dice to sugar coat his opinion!!!!!!!!!!!1:playing:






What an idiot.

[the dangling wrangler]

carrier sucks
that unit is a piece of s#iit@!!!!!!!!!!!!

that is what one of our employees told our customer after we did a $160,000 job for them !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

nice!!!!!!!:gah:

Might this be the same guy with the broken arm rest?

[heavymetaldad]

so what pos carrier product was called a pos, Fraaaaaannnnnnkkkkieeeeeee?

[supertek65]

no this was an old journeyman!!!!!!!!!!:gah:




Might this be the same guy with the broken arm rest?

[supertek65]

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It was a couple rooftop units? I think? not sure?




so what pos carrier product was called a pos, Fraaaaaannnnnnkkkkieeeeeee?

[supertek65]

is POS for positive displacement????????

[heavymetaldad]

::DD: ::DD:

[pauls heating &]

my carrier distributer is standard air and light. their tech support is un-match. simply the best. .

john and rick will get you off the roof.

this is the truth...these guys are great...maybe we are spoiled in having great local tech guys ???

[supertek65]

their KIN machines are good



::DD: ::DD:

[timebuilder]

carrier sucks
that unit is a piece of s#iit@!!!!!!!!!!!!

that is what one of our employees told our customer after we did a $160,000 job for them !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

nice!!!!!!!:gah:


Man.

I hope that's the guy you "laid off."

[supertek65]

no
but it is the same guy that went to one of my accounts on a service call

told the customer the condensate tank for the 3 500 hp steam boilers was not working
it was the electricians problem and left

of course that did not work and i had to go fix the float control or level control to the condensate return tank later that night:gah:







Man.

I hope that's the guy you "laid off."

[DavyB]

Their tech support sucks you start from India then after 3 more levels you end up with a real tech from Syracuse.

Sigler, sucks balls. (West coast, Totaline is no more) Last time I attempted a Carrier Tech support call, I asked the rep. if he was working in a machine shop! He said, "no, I am in a call center". I could barely hear the guy until I told him to forget it. I had several voicemails an hour later after finishing the job from a real tech.

[timebuilder]

no
but it is the same guy that went to one of my accounts on a service call

told the customer the condensate tank for the 3 500 hp steam boilers was not working
it was the electricians problem and left

of course that did not work and i had to go fix the float control or level control to the condensate return tank later that night:gah:

Now if that had been me Frank, and if I thought I needed a hand, I would have just called you and the job would have been done.

What the heck was he thinking?

[heavymetaldad]

no
but it is the same guy that went to one of my accounts on a service call

told the customer the condensate tank for the 3 500 hp steam boilers was not working
it was the electricians problem and left

of course that did not work and i had to go fix the float control or level control to the condensate return tank later that night:gah:

o/t FRAAAANNNKIIIEEEEE!!!!!!

[supertek65]

I have no idea???????????

he was thinking

it is friday night i need to go home!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and i know you would have handeled that correctly

i am 100% sure of it

and you would have done it with a sexy voice!!!!!!!!!!!!:bsing:




Now if that had been me Frank, and if I thought I needed a hand, I would have just called you and the job would have been done.

What the heck was he thinking?

[supertek65]

bobbbbbbby!!!!!!!!

i like ot

you know that

i still would have rather had it fixed @ 330 in the day time

it is a huge huge retirement center several city blocks

the state could have fined them???

alot of bad things could happen

that is why there were 3 huge boilers


o/t FRAAAANNNKIIIEEEEE!!!!!!

[Mr Chesapeake]

Might this be the same guy with the broken arm rest?
::DD:

[supertek65]

chesapeak

i know !
that frikkiiin cracked me up too!!!!!!!!!!!!1


::DD:

:pileon:

[maxpower]

this is the truth...these guys are great...maybe we are spoiled in having great local tech guys ???

thats the truth. Just glad we don't have to deal with the local commercial sales/service. If you have ever met them, then you would know.

Thats probably why they don't do tech support.

[heavymetaldad]

bobbbbbbby!!!!!!!!

i like ot

you know that

i still would have rather had it fixed @ 330 in the day time

it is a huge huge retirement center several city blocks

the state could have fined them???

alot of bad things could happen

that is why there were 3 huge boilers

in that case ....................... more o/t!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :pileon:

[VTP99]

Carrier works for me never a problem. Different guy for each division. A couple RTU's and 160,000 sorry i missed that job.:gah:

[supertek65]

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

it was most likely a couple 90 ton rtus

maybe a 130 ton and a 30 ton

or a 90 ton and some controls
something like that:playing:



Carrier works for me never a problem. Different guy for each division. A couple RTU's and 160,000 sorry i missed that job.:gah:

[VTP99]

That's what's nice about the big jobs. Same procedure lots more money.:grin2:

[pctech]

I dont make it a habit to say anything in the office i would not say in the customer's home.
somtimes a tech makes an off hand remark and it gets around via the other techs.


Really? You really need to have a discussion with your employees on when to shut the f--k up. There is a lot of things i will say in the office, but man, in front of the customer.

[wgrr]

Carrier north east is now Totaline

Totaline here is owned by Watsco. That happened about a year ago. Funny thing is their prices for parts are lower.

[supertek65]

that is kinda true!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

but sometimes what some people consider to be bigger jobs are also more complex jobs!!!!!!!!!!!




That's what's nice about the big jobs. Same procedure lots more money.:grin2:

[hvacpope]

Carrier like the rest has cheapen down the quality of their equipment. I didnt know they still have tech support left, at Carrier Northeast they let go anyone with brains and replaced them with either an angry old woman or a young "dude" as clueless as one can be, I try to avoid them.

[sweat hog]

The hog got it splained along time ago, don't sheet where you eat!!!
The perfect machine won't pay your bills.

[frank514]

Since you sell Carrier I thought I would ask. I am new to HVAC, my company reps Carrier and I get asked whats the difference. I thought I would pose the question here as guys I worked with have the company jingle memorized and I was looking for an unbiased opinion. The general Mantra is Carrier along with Trane and Lennox are best in the industry but Carrier has some advantages. I will save you the company line because I am looking for what you all think of the Brand wars and whats the real deal. Thanks!

[supertek65]

you should post a thread for that question
but i am sure you will get plenty of answers

for me
the stuff i work on carrier is good
air cooled chillers are good
i like the mcx or micro chanel coils

scrolls seem good

the screw chillers we have have been good!

they have always made a good wheel/ centrifugal

i think, and may be wrong?? their big chillers are not as efficient as trane, york chillers, could be wrong?

that being said

the carrier service here in kansas city

is absolutely

TERRIBLE!

IF YOU SELL A GOOD CUSTOMER A CARRIER AIR COOLED CHILLER AND THE CONDENSER FAN TAKES 6 MONTHS TO ARRIVE FROM THE FACTORY??

THE CUSTOMER MIGHT GET A LITTLE UPSET
ESPECIALLY IF THEY HAVE TO GO A MONTH WITH NO COOLING IN THEIR BUILDING AND HAVE TO RENT A TEMP CHILLER FROM TRANE:gah:









Since you sell Carrier I thought I would ask. I am new to HVAC, my company reps Carrier and I get asked whats the difference. I thought I would pose the question here as guys I worked with have the company jingle memorized and I was looking for an unbiased opinion. The general Mantra is Carrier along with Trane and Lennox are best in the industry but Carrier has some advantages. I will save you the company line because I am looking for what you all think of the Brand wars and whats the real deal. Thanks!

[Tech Rob]

DUDE! Carrier sucks! lol

[supertek65]

LMFMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

MEATBALL!!!!!!!!!!


DUDE! Carrier sucks! lol