POTTY TRAINING, Advice please, anyone

[gpjazz1023]

Got a potty trainging problem with my 4 1/2 year old daughter. WONT poop on potty and it's driving me insane. Researched the internet and friends and family and even asked the doc. Everything and everyone says the same thing... Blah blah no kid graduates high school in diapers blah blah.... She will do it when she's ready blah blah blah, you gotta just forget about it and it will happen blah blah. I think we've heard 'em all. But tried every suggestion we could with no success. She will pee with no problem. Has been doing that since about 20 months old. But refuses to poop on the potty... I mean c'mon !! She's 4 1/2 !! She's almost ready for kindergarten !! But we all know that can't happen til potty trained. I can ramble on and on with all the examples and situations that occur and with all the things we've tried. But i'm sure most of you with kids already understand. Anyone have any kind of suggestions that i may not have heard about? Anyone? Please?

[Home&Marine]

I'm sure she has a pattern? So about the time you see her take off or start making faces get her to the john.

Have you offered her rewards?

[jpsmith1cm]

www.ivillage.com

Hopefully this forum isn't a violation of site policy as it is another forum, but hardly a competitor.

This is a place where women (mostly) gather to talk about issues such as yours. Maybe you've been there, maybe not.

I think H&M is on track. Look to her patterns and land her on the toilet when it's about time to go. It will happen.

[gpjazz1023]

Yes, know the patterns. Yes, tried getting her in there. But just wont do it or will completly freak out crying. And yes, tried plenty of rewards. Even tried taking away some of her favorite toys. No go. It just goes on and on

[jackintheboxtec]

We did the pee pee candy thing. Every time they went potty in the toilet they got a piece of candy. Worked great

[snupytcb]

We did the pee pee candy thing. Every time they went potty in the toilet they got a piece of candy. Worked great

we do the same thing with my 2 year old. it seemed to help. the first time she used her little potty it was to poop, but now she will only pee. our problem now is she will poop on the floor:eek2:.

[Home&Marine]

Might sound gross but have you tried, "Look What Mommy or Daddy Did In The Toilet"?

How about letting her watch one of her friends?

My Son did good at first then he lost interest and went back to hiding. After about 3 months he decided he'd try again.

[beshvac]

We did "potty Points". When she went to the bathroom, she got computer game time (it was something she could not do without :) ) Only took a couple of days

[gpjazz1023]

Might sound gross but have you tried, "Look What Mommy or Daddy Did In The Toilet"?

How about letting her watch one of her friends?

My Son did good at first then he lost interest and went back to hiding. After about 3 months he decided he'd try again.

Yes, tried the watch mommy thing, and also "daddy just did it". Still no success. And to add more info, she HAS actually pooped on potty 2 times in the past, around 2 1/2 years old. With lots of praise and encouragement. But that was the end of it. Until again on her 4th birthday. She went in bathroom with one of her little friends and pooped on the potty. Took a long time before she did, but she did... :) But again, nothing since...

[vmc1161]

We did the pee pee candy thing. Every time they went potty in the toilet they got a piece of candy. Worked great

That reminds me ... Dice is looking for his candy ...:yes:


Maybe she heard Daddy is full of crap ... and she wants to be just like him ... :eek2:


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[gpjazz1023]

Could be... I've been known to bs from time to time

[madhat]

We had her clean herself up, also put her back in diapers. Per pressure at the Day care, must have been something else, because I think that was the real key. Also she went to Day Care in her PJ's, gave me a fit on what to wear, and I'd be late to work. BTW I talked to the Day care director, to let her know what was going on. Is there a new baby in the family, or friends network??

[Green Mountain]

Our first born was a bed wetter. We tried everthing to get her to stop. The doctor said that some kids have problems waking up and she would grow out of it.

She did ! And looking back on it today, it certainly was NOT worth all the punishing, yelling, embarassing etc. Your daughter like ours has/had a problem. Just love her through it. Don't make a big deal of it when she poops her pants. One day she will stop and not be emotionally scared for life. :D

[Chris_Worthington]

Baby Ruth anyone?

My kids are old now, but I do recall these issues and working through them with time and love.

My way was a bit off track, but it worked, I used the same things for my hunting dogs as the kids http://www.gundogsupply.com/-609-.html ;-)

Good Luck !

[ncboston]

Any older children at the house that they might want to emulate? With my kids it was a 'big kid' thing to do.

[gpjazz1023]

Tried letting her clean herself... Did so for a few weeks but made no difference. No baby and no older kids... Only child, (so far). She DOES go to daycare. I think that's what helped her to learn to pee on potty. Cause all the other kids were doing it. But not for the poopin... She always does the pooping thing in the evening

[Wheelbaron]

OK if you have not tried this, give it a shot. It worked for us and our daughter.

Sometimes it is the fear of the water or the splash or something. So what we did was get a big box, you know how kids love boxes. Get a kids little potty thing, you know the kind with a butter tub that you fit under it to catch the crap, but has no water in it. Put it in the box, and make it her own little private bathroom. Then let her use it, but don't ask her to, or tell her to, let her decorate the box if she decides to, but don't help her other than to cut "windows" if she asks for them.

When and if she poops in it, or pees in it, let her see you take it to the potty and flush it. After some time ask her offhand one day to take the poop and flush it, cause your busy at the moment. Once she sees the crap being flushed, and nothing happens to her personally, it helps a bit. I have heard theory about how it is like flushing a peice of oneself or whatever. I think that is a load of crap, I think it just sucks when your little and toilet water splashes on your ass once. Good luck.

[gpjazz1023]

wheelbaron,

That is the best idea i've heard yet. Thank you. We have not tried something like that before but i will certainly give it a try.

[TCreacy]

My story not about a girl but ill be there soon my daughter is 20 months....

Friend of mine got tired of the fact that his 2yr son couldnt aim at all. So they started pee training in the back yard. Then about a 1 month into it there at the sonic eating and you here this water sound. Kid rips down his shorts, and start pissing all over the bushes in front of everyone....

[simplyrollin]

I may be a little in-sensitive here, but start spanking her when she doesnt use the bathroom. 4 1/2 and still crapping her pants, its hands down a discipline issue, she is seeking attention. :tussor:

[Mongo and me]

HOME DEPOT !!!! Thats the answer !!! Yep, take her to the Depot and have her pick put a new seat just for her, let her help install it, then see how it goes, hell it can;t hurt and the most it cost is 10- 20 bucks..........

This is the special you approch, and her being in volved may have her self improtance and all that stuff tie into it.........

From all the other idea's, I'm sooooooooooooooooo glad mine took to it overnight !!!!
Now the boy, OH MY GOD,>>>> Stay with girls, much easyer !!!

[kruzer2001]

Just a thought, use the scheduling method, put her on the toilet and leave her there. she might pitch a screaming fit but pay her no attention until the deed is done. then you can reward her. some children seek attention good or bad. by ignoring her bad behavior and rewarding the good she might come around. sometimes the caterwauling will get on your nerves just turn the t.v. up. worked well for me. oh! and do be consistent if not you'll confuse her.

[spotts]

HOME DEPOT !!!! Thats the answer !!! Yep, take her to the Depot and have her pick put a new seat just for her, let her help install it, then see how it goes, hell it can;t hurt and the most it cost is 10- 20 bucks..........

This is the special you approch, and her being in volved may have her self improtance and all that stuff tie into it.........

From all the other idea's, I'm sooooooooooooooooo glad mine took to it overnight !!!!
Now the boy, OH MY GOD,>>>> Stay with girls, much easyer !!!


I tried that with my little girl and she was all traumatized by the tioilet section.... even screamed NOOOO!!! at a disney princess one.

[Fabrk8r]

Does she like to watch videos or read books?

When my girls were little (they are 16 & 18 now) they loved to watch "Once Upon a Potty".
It worked for them!

Google it...if you have Netflix you can probably rent it or maybe even stream it, or watch it here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHFYpDiaDmU

[homebrewski]

so far, I like Benn and mango's suggestions the best. I have a 5 yr old who still wears diapers at night. She is fine all day but can't make it through the night.

[Green Mountain]

I may be a little in-sensitive here, but start spanking her when she doesnt use the bathroom. 4 1/2 and still crapping her pants, its hands down a discipline issue, she is seeking attention. :tussor:

Totally disagree with this advice. If she was just seeking attention she would be doing a host of other things to get her parents attention beside making herself uncomfortable.

She either has a physical or pyschologal disorder which can only be treated by a professional. Beatings will only make her and the parents guilty for something they haven't figured out yet.

Unless you like beating kids and turning them into monsters. :anyone:

[gpjazz1023]

I agree, no beating. Not gonna punish her for trying to figure things out and
learn things in life.

We have taken her shopping and let her pick her own potty seat. (not an actual seat from home depot, but the ones that go on top of the regular seat) She wanted the pink princess one... But no go. She sits to pee no problem, but won't poop.

And for making her sit there until the deed is done... Tried that too. But she is very strong willed and just won't sit there. Only way would be to actually tie her to the toilet, but we all know we can't do that.

She does like videos and things like that. Loves to read books and look at the pictures. Tried putting a small tv/dvd in bathroom for her while she tries... no luck. We've sat in there reading books with her, or to her... no luck.

[Joe Harper]

We had a lot of problems with this..I have a 6 and a 4 yr old. We had to get rid of the diapers completely. There was a little ceremony and we threw the remaining ones in the trash. We let her wear the training pants for a week. But we would not change them. She had to do it. As she was starting day care the routine of everyone going to the potty helped a lot. Grandma kicked in by buying undies for her and making a big deal of it.

[gpjazz1023]

We had a lot of problems with this..I have a 6 and a 4 yr old. We had to get rid of the diapers completely. There was a little ceremony and we threw the remaining ones in the trash. We let her wear the training pants for a week. But we would not change them. She had to do it. As she was starting day care the routine of everyone going to the potty helped a lot. Grandma kicked in by buying undies for her and making a big deal of it.

We got rid of the pull ups for quite a long time and gave her undies... Didn't matter, she would just go in her underwear. (And still does.) Tried with no underwear or pullups, just pants or shorts. But just went right in her pants. Only thing we haven't done yet is let her run around the house naked. Afraid to do this for fear that she may just go right on the floor !!! I just don't know what to do with this little girl...

[Wendo]

I may be a little in-sensitive here, but start spanking her when she doesnt use the bathroom. 4 1/2 and still crapping her pants, its hands down a discipline issue, she is seeking attention. :tussor:

I'm afraid you are politically incorrect but correct. If the child is old enough to know what she's doing wrong, she's capable of doing different. Punishment is highly unpopular now days which is why we have all these "monsters" running around. I'm not talking about child abuse either. A child needs to know who's in control from young on up. My little mom (probably only 5' tall) "beat" me and all of my 4 siblings!! Now we're all adults and never had to sit in a jail cell to learn a lesson. All though me and my brothers have talked about taking the little old lady to court. ( we're all about 6' and 220+ pounds) because she beat us and also fed us too good making us fat!!! God knew what he was doing when he gave kids to young people!!! I've got four older ones!!!