View Full Version : Carnak, aka Abby, has passed away.
Green Mountain
08-02-2010, 09:48 AM
The shocking news of Carnak (his name on this site) has passed away. I read the news of this on the other channels. I have no other details. He was always a giving person who would share his vast knowledge of HVAC with anyone.
the dangling wrangler
08-02-2010, 09:53 AM
http://hvac-talk.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=607442
Catpower
08-02-2010, 10:37 AM
Rip Abby you will be missed
Green Mountain
08-02-2010, 10:37 AM
http://hvac-talk.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=607442
Okay thanks. I missed this when jmac posted it.
ACFIXR
08-02-2010, 10:51 AM
Thanks for sharing your wit and wisdom Carnak
gruntly
08-02-2010, 11:17 AM
My sincere condolences to his family.
I, as many have, had the opportunity to take advantage of his knowledge, which will be missed.
As a Canadian, who worked some time ago for a company with a branch/depot in Thunder Bay, I always felt a slight connection to him, even though he worked in the Caribbean. With Carnak in the Caymans and my wife, being from Barbados, this only added to the connection. I never had the opportunity to meet him like others did on this site, but I sure would have liked to.
Again, I hope those that were close to him can find some peace from the knowledge he was extremely well respected and liked with this forum
Tony
the dangling wrangler
08-02-2010, 12:46 PM
I was just talking to him last week too.
Anybody have an address we can send a card to?
phbsales
08-02-2010, 01:18 PM
Details are sketchy at best, but it's been confirmed by a call to his office.
I would bet that in the next 24-48 hours details will be available via the internet concerning Murray.
I would watch Grand Cayman and Thunder Bay, Ont. news feeds.
energy star
08-02-2010, 01:31 PM
A good contributing forum member. He replied to me on many of my threads, he will be missed.
A/C guy's chick
08-02-2010, 02:44 PM
RIP ... sad day..
I have met the man twice.......as much of a gentleman in person as online....
tears in my eyes......he was a true educator.......and a friend to us all
oroy54
08-02-2010, 05:25 PM
I met Murray also. A good guy. A sad day for all of us on all the sites. Murray we will meet up again later.
Shophound
08-02-2010, 05:38 PM
I'm shocked and saddened. Murray and I exchanged emails and pm's occasionally but never met in person, though I wish I could have met him. I enjoyed his posts and sense of humor online, and his knowledge was well seasoned.
You will be sorely missed here at hvac-talk, Murray, as I'm sure those who knew you well will be grieving and missing you as well. R.I.P. and keep 'em cool up there!
supertek65
08-02-2010, 07:11 PM
RIP bro'
Senior Tech
08-02-2010, 07:15 PM
Very sad indeed. Very nice gent who's postings I will miss.
Anyone know what his last name was or where a card can be sent?
Twilly
08-02-2010, 07:19 PM
Truly sad news....a brilliant man. I will miss his wit.
mo-flo
08-02-2010, 07:27 PM
condolences to the carnak family-from the mo-flo family.
frigetater
08-02-2010, 07:58 PM
First Arpa, now Carnak......this is so sad....who's gonna fill their shoes?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xi3GgoLtlWk
mbhydro
08-02-2010, 08:16 PM
Here is a link to the Funeral Home information and online condolences book. As far as I can see the obituary has not yet been published.
http://everestfh.frontrunnerpro.com/runtime/2836/runtime.php?SiteId=2836&NavigatorId=51287&op=moreinfo&viewOpt=dpaneOnly&ItemId=503807&LinkId=220
I am going to miss his presence here on the site.
Tech Rob
08-02-2010, 08:17 PM
RIP Carnak. You'll be missed.
vmc1161
08-02-2010, 08:31 PM
A very sad day, he was one of the guys that I never doubted his word, and learned plenty from .... just sad.
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Mr Bill
08-02-2010, 08:44 PM
The king of Latent, we will all miss you Brother, probably should dedicate a Humidity forum just for you, your past answers will live on forever.
Twilly
08-02-2010, 08:52 PM
First Arpa, now Carnak......this is so sad....who's gonna fill their shoes?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xi3GgoLtlWk
Twilli knew he shouldn't have watched that video, that song has a lot of meaning ....makes Twilli sad.
Snoring Beagle
08-02-2010, 09:00 PM
I liked Murrays style. He gave as good as he got. Kindred spirits we are. I will miss corresponding with the Canuk on that flat rock in the ocean. Happy trails to you my friend.
gruntly
08-02-2010, 10:54 PM
Just a little something:
Apparently he once worked for a competitor of mine, Eng "A", years after I worked for ClimateMaster.
Now it makes sense why there was a sudden improvement in their equipment in the early 90s :yes:
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/murray-woodgate/11/a87/72a
joey791
08-02-2010, 11:07 PM
Years ago Carnak offered me a controls job, I didnt take it but he was a good guy and will be missed deeply.
Gus-Herb94
08-03-2010, 01:46 AM
1961. wow I didn't think he was that young, he was so knowledgeable that I thought he was a bit older. I didn't know him but I really loved following his posts, such a great wealth of information.
jrbenny
08-03-2010, 10:13 AM
God Speed, Murray.
http://heatingcoolinglouisville.com/a-great-loss-in-the-hvac-industry/
Shophound
08-03-2010, 10:48 AM
God Speed, Murray.
http://heatingcoolinglouisville.com/a-great-loss-in-the-hvac-industry/
Thank you, Rob. A very nice tribute. One line you wrote stood out for me:
His ability to see through marketing hype and show us how something really worked was uncanny. Many a design engineer learned just how lousy their product worked thanks to Murray’s abilities.
Murray and I are kindred spirits in this regard. I have confidence his life and work, cut tragically short, has and will inspire many in our profession to strive toward learning "how something really works".
First Arpa, now Carnak......this is so sad....who's gonna fill their shoes?
You all are.
Guys like you and you over there and the others to come. Mentors aren't born they are driven to give of themselves. Study and give back so you can help others to grow. That's what this forum is about guys, people like Murry and Bruce gave unconditionally.
cold in alberta
08-03-2010, 11:49 AM
Just a little something:
Apparently he once worked for a competitor of mine, Eng "A", years after I worked for ClimateMaster.
Now it makes sense why there was a sudden improvement in their equipment in the early 90s :yes:
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/murray-woodgate/11/a87/72a
Just spoke to Eng Air in Calgary-he will be missed
tinner73
08-03-2010, 05:11 PM
i've been out with drinking with Murray a couple of times when he passed through this area, once with the wives. real nice people, him and his wife.
he was a wealth of information.. easily one of the smartest on this board.
i'm gonna miss him.
he's probably gonna install some of that $hitty duct board in heaven.
RIP Carnak.:CU:
Collin
08-04-2010, 01:54 AM
I never met Murray, but shared quite a few pm's and emails with him over the years. I kept joking he should put on a "seminar" in the Caymans so I could visit, but never made it happen. He will be missed.:(
2hot2coolme
08-04-2010, 09:32 AM
I met Murray a couple winters ago. We went out drinking then met up at the Chicago Expo the next day. Great Guy! I just talked to him on the phone about a month ago, I can't believe this. You're definately going to be missed buddy.
phbsales
08-04-2010, 09:42 AM
I met Murray a couple winters ago. We went out drinking then met up at the Chicago Expo the next day. Great Guy! I just talked to him on the phone about a month ago, I can't believe this. You're definately going to be missed buddy.
As I remember it, I staggered across the street to the hotel around 1 am; You, Murray, and maybe a couple others shut the place down........
2hot2coolme
08-04-2010, 10:02 AM
As I remember it, I staggered across the street to the hotel around 1 am; You, Murray, and maybe a couple others shut the place down........
It was just him and I that shut the place down. As a mattrer of fact, they locked the doors and let us stay for about an extra hour. I actually forgot about that.
The room will be a lot emptier with Carnak gone. I am really sorry to hear it and wish the best for his family.
-- Pstu
heavymetaldad
08-04-2010, 06:02 PM
It was just him and I that shut the place down. As a mattrer of fact, they locked the doors and let us stay for about an extra hour. I actually forgot about that.
the name of the place has been changed..... new owners.
Another sad day for HVAC-Talk. And another professional with a wealth of knowledge to share. Again, at a much to early age.
RIP
midhvac
08-04-2010, 09:57 PM
I literally hung on every word he said (misspellings and all), lol.
He had all that practical, hands-on experience, a brilliant mind, and the engineering degree. He also taught HVAC. And he was so very willing to give of his time to teach us anything for free. He had a knack for making things understandable, and helping you to see the big picture.
We have people on this site who are really sharp in specific areas of HVAC, but the width of his knowledge was just unbelievable. I don't think it's an overstatement to say that he raised the level of knowledge here considerably.
phbsales
08-05-2010, 12:12 PM
Murray's body is to be flown back to Canada possibly tomorrow.
The service will be held possibly Thursday the 12th in Thunder Bay, ON, Canada.
DPSwitch
08-05-2010, 12:38 PM
He coached me for a couple days to help me get through my master exam... He'd ask a question, look to see how long it took me to find the applicable code, then identify what misunderstanding led to me looking in the wrong section....etc..
I got my license, and until he was gone... never gave much thought to the time he sacrificed for a guy he didn't know personally.
I always just thought I'd meet him in person and have the chance to buy him a beer or whatever and say thanks.
You just never know.
Appreciate people, and tell them how you feel right now. They might not be here tomorrow.
dezerttech
08-05-2010, 07:56 PM
Rest in Peace Abby, you were a wise man and will greatly missed............
He coached me for a couple days to help me get through my master exam... He'd ask a question, look to see how long it took me to find the applicable code, then identify what misunderstanding led to me looking in the wrong section....etc..
I got my license, and until he was gone... never gave much thought to the time he sacrificed for a guy he didn't know personally.
I always just thought I'd meet him in person and have the chance to buy him a beer or whatever and say thanks.
You just never know.
Appreciate people, and tell them how you feel right now. They might not be here tomorrow.
nice post......he was a gentleman...
Swampfox
08-05-2010, 08:00 PM
This thread should be sticked, not for months on end but at least until his funeral, he contributed a lot to this site for the last 10+ years
I have a feeling there is some bad blood held by some here towards him because he was willing to call a spade a spade, and speak up when something wasnt right, by doing so He was just looking out for the member's interests here when others wouldnt
If that is the case, just get over it and pay the man the respect he deserves.
If its an oversight, please make it right.
Thanks
Swampfox
08-05-2010, 08:06 PM
Wow that worked
Thanks :)
dezerttech
08-05-2010, 08:07 PM
This thread should be sticked, not for months on end but at least until his funeral, he contributed a lot to this site for the last 10+ years
I have a feeling there is some bad blood held by some here towards him because he was willing to call a spade a spade, and speak up when something wasnt right, by doing so He was just looking out for the member's interests here when others wouldnt
If that is the case, just get over it and pay the man the respect he deserves.
If its an oversight, please make it right.
Thanks
Very well spoken Swamp..........nice to see someone with some cajones say the right thing when it needed to be said....
heavymetaldad
08-05-2010, 08:11 PM
a fitting tribute to one of the great ones.
Wow that worked
Thanks :)
:putergreet:
DPSwitch
08-05-2010, 08:27 PM
Thanks Lusker...
Thanks Lusker...
When I retired from this place they forgot to get my keys...
Murry was my friend too, glad to help out where I can.
phbsales
08-05-2010, 09:55 PM
You 'da man, Lusker. Thank you. :patriot:
jpsmith1cm
08-05-2010, 10:00 PM
I was shocked when I read this on my phone from camp.
He helped me on a few things I have been working on improving.
For sure his input will be missed.
gruntly
08-05-2010, 11:02 PM
I moved this from my post in another thread.
This has been in circulation for a while. It seems to me, Murray took full advantage of being Canadian. Good for you Murray
An Australian's Definition of a Canadian
In case anyone asks you who a Canadian is . . .
You probably missed it in the local news, but there was a report that someone in Pakistan had advertised in a newspaper an offer of a reward to anyone who killed a Canadian – any Canadian.
An Australian dentist wrote the following editorial to help define what a Canadian is, so they would know one when they found one:
A Canadian can be English, or French, or Italian, Irish, German, Spanish, Polish, Russian or Greek. A Canadian can be Mexican, African, Indian, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Australian, Iranian, Asian, Arab, Pakistani, or Afghan.
A Canadian may also be a Cree, Metis, Mohawk, Blackfoot, Sioux, or one of the many other tribes known as native Canadians. A Canadian’s religious beliefs range from Christian, Jewish, Buddhist, Muslim, Hindu, or none. In fact, there are more Muslims in Canada than in Afghanistan. The key difference is that in Canada they are free to worship as each of them chooses. Whether they have a religion or no religion, each Canadian ultimately answers only to God, not to the government, or to armed thugs claiming to speak for the government and for God.
A Canadian lives in one of the most prosperous lands in the history of the world. The root of that prosperity can be found in the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, which recognize the right of each person to the pursuit of happiness.
A Canadian is generous and Canadians have helped out just about every other nation in the world in their time of need, never asking a thing in return. Canadians welcome the best of everything, the best products, the best books, the best music, the best food, the best services, and the best minds.
But they also welcome the least - the oppressed, the outcast, and the rejected.
These are the people who built Canada. You can try to kill a Canadian if you must as other bloodthirsty tyrants in the world have tried but in doing so you could just be killing a relative or a neighbour. This is because Canadians are not a particular people from a particular place. They are the embodiment of the human spirit of freedom. Everyone who holds to that spirit, everywhere, can be a Canadian.
midhvac
08-06-2010, 07:57 AM
I have a feeling there is some bad blood held by some here towards him because he was willing to call a spade a spade, and speak up when something wasnt right, by doing so He was just looking out for the member's interests here when others wouldnt
Right on target. I recall freaking out once several years ago when he went into his pit bull mode with somebody and wouldn't let go. I learned over time that he rarely argued for the sake of argument. He just didn't want anything he considered questionable to be accepted here as fact. Salaried or not, he was above all an educator.
secorp
08-06-2010, 05:01 PM
Bummer.
jeffcdntech
08-06-2010, 07:26 PM
I have had a very difficult time coming to terms with this the worst of news and this is why I am only now replying here.
It has been some time since I have spoken with Murray and it does not in any way remove the feeling of loss I am dealing with.
A wealth of knowledge and all around great person you will be sadly missed.
RIP Carnak my friend
timebuilder
08-06-2010, 07:43 PM
Right on target. I recall freaking out once several years ago when he went into his pit bull mode with somebody and wouldn't let go. I learned over time that he rarely argued for the sake of argument. He just didn't want anything he considered questionable to be accepted here as fact. Salaried or not, he was above all an educator.
I like a spirited discussion, so I will miss Murray. I am saddened that his passing is one like so many, in that it didn't have to happen so soon, had more energetic steps been taken to get medical care.
I think that is a lesson, a final lesson, like Randy's Last Lecture (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ji5_MqicxSo), that Murray can teach us. If you don't feel right, or have a pain, that CAN be a sign of danger. Many guys on this board are MI's waiting to happen, and it doesn't have to be that way.
Let this lesson from Murray have a positive impact on your life, by keeping it preserved to see your grandchildren grow up.
OK, I'll get down off my soapbox now......
pabull
08-07-2010, 11:14 AM
Murray...man i'm gonna miss your easily comprehendable answers to tough questions. I'm gonna miss your character for giving beaucoup help to anyone who asked for it.
I'm gonna miss our funny as hell chat sessions when we would jot down Zappa lyrics for no real reason other than we found it funny.
I'm really gonna miss your encouragement as far as my schooling goes. Yeah, I hadn't talked at ya in awhile but that was my working my ass off to understand the stuff. That is what you always told me to do....whatever it takes to get a concept.
As the studies get more difficult, don't be suprised if I look at the sky and ask your opinion. I know that sounded retarded but, if you were to be present when the rubber meets the road, you bet your ass I woulda put out an APB on the forums to get your answer.
Well, i'm sure you are now at rest in a much better place BUT irregardless of that, Myself and all of us in whatever forums, are gonna just plain miss you.
It is not "goodbye", it's more like "so long" because I know we will all meet someday in Heaven's Central Plant and play alot of poker..lol.
Take care big man, PaBull
simpleman
08-09-2010, 06:51 AM
Godspeed murray i will miss you my friend and thanks for sharing all your knowlegde with us all.
Rest in peace my friend.
Lets not forget how fast one can be taken from us.So if you really care for someone let them know everyday...I do mean everyday.
gary_g
08-09-2010, 04:01 PM
If you don't feel right, or have a pain, that CAN be a sign of danger. Many guys on this board are MI's waiting to happen, and it doesn't have to be that way
MI = heart attack.
spotts
08-09-2010, 06:41 PM
MI = heart attack.
Learn sumpthin every day, and YUP, we are.
MI: Commonly used abbreviation for myocardial infarction, otherwise known as a heart attack.
The term "myocardial infarction" focuses on the heart muscle, which is called the myocardium,and the changes that occur in it due to the sudden deprivation of circulating blood. This is usually caused by arteriosclerosis with narrowing of the coronary arteries, the culminating event being a thrombosis (clot). The main change is death (necrosis) of myocardial tissue.
The word "infarction" comes from the Latin "infarcire" meaning "to plug up or cram." It refers to the clogging of the artery.
Super Tech JJ
08-09-2010, 07:03 PM
Definitely a huge loss for us HVAC geeks!! Carnak will be missed.
JJ
Richard Kletty
09-15-2010, 10:21 PM
First Arpa, now Carnak......this is so sad....who's gonna fill their shoes?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xi3GgoLtlWk
Huh? Arpa? wtf?
cracker
09-17-2010, 06:11 PM
Had a few chat's.......Nothing more to say.
ozone drone
10-06-2010, 08:02 PM
Damn..... I don't visit or post much on here anymore. So I'm just finding out about Carnak.
My very 1st post on here I was ranting and ragging on engineers. Mr Carnak introduced himself and proceeded to tear me a new one. From that shaky start we developed a mutual respect. I'll miss him. RIP He was a good engineer and a decent human being.
absrbrtek
10-07-2010, 12:38 AM
I still think of the good times we had together almost daily. Still pretty bumbed about it.
idontgetit
11-10-2010, 09:44 PM
WOW,
RIP abby, I am sorry to hear of you departing us.
you will be missed.
LMTD
Commsrv
11-12-2010, 02:33 PM
Thoughts and prayers from Bloomington, IN
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kitchenfixer
11-15-2010, 02:57 PM
:CU:Sorry to his family and ALL OF YOU who miss Murray. I remember him and his spirited words....one hell of a guy in my book...my prayers are with him and all of us who don't have him here as a reference.
PS: I love you guys and all that you've given me since I've been here.....probably have gained more here than from any textbook....again...THANX!!!! Kevin:ghug:
smokin68
12-06-2010, 09:25 PM
sorry to hear about this. He was a good member and a giving individual from those that knew him. RIP.
smokin68
12-06-2010, 09:27 PM
sorry to hear about this. He was a good member and a giving individual from those that knew him. RIP Carnak.
caymancl
12-19-2010, 05:46 PM
My good friend Carnak's name was Murray Woodgate. He helped us on many project where we had humidity problems.
larobj63
01-01-2011, 06:40 PM
What sad news. RIP Murray. As others have said, his knowledge was vast and it was always articulated with grace in this forum. His wit will be missed. I never met him but he seemed like a great guy.
dan sw fl
04-20-2011, 03:37 AM
To each and every man, Murray left a Legacy of wisdom and Professionalism !
http://www.chroniclejournal.com/obituaries/woodgate/murray
We would do well to emulate Murray Woodgate in our daily lives.
Bless you all who quietly speak the truth to assist freely those needing some direction.
ACFIXR
12-14-2011, 08:23 AM
This post came in my email last night. I read "Carnaks" obit and remembered how knowledgeable his responses were.
Here is a quote from the memorial:
"Murray’s specialties were solving humidity and mold problems. Murray was able to source the root causes of problems and routinely uncover significant energy savings that are easy to implement. "
The last post was from April and I got it today?
Carnak's spirit must be rustling through the server's...............:grin2:
There was a spammer that hit this Memorial area. He posted in all the threads here.
HeyBob took him out behind the barn and beat the sh*t out of him then banned him for good measure. Just got finished banning his IP too.
coolwhip
12-14-2011, 08:50 AM
This year has been a bad year. I lost some people around me that were part of my life.
Mr. Carnak was not my friend and we were at odds on this here site. Never the less, I do recognize the fact that he was an asset to this forum and is missed.
Arpa is another that left this realm for the next. He was a good guy as well and is another missed soul.
RIP gentleman >>>>>gone but not forgotten!
rsmith46
01-02-2012, 06:49 PM
I've been gone a while very sad to hear this. Always considered Carnac to be one of the top ten members I looked up to.
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