Kerry the Klown strikes again...

[RoBoTeq]

What is this guy trying to do? Is he deliberately throwing the election. Only an idiot could vote for such a putz;

Saturday, September 18, 2004
BOSTON - Democratic presidential challenger John Kerry said President Bush has a secret plan to call up more National Guard and Reserve troops immediately after the election, an allegation that the Bush campaign called "false and ridiculous."

Kerry issued the charge while campaigning Friday in Albuquerque, N.M., as he criticized the president of glossing over a worsening conflict in Iraq.

"He won't tell us what congressional leaders are now saying, that this administration is planning yet another substantial call-up of reservists and Guard units immediately after the election," Kerry said. "Hide it from people through the election, then make the move."

Republicans said Kerry was making a baseless charge to cover up his inconsistent positions on Iraq. "Desperate candidates are generally not the most accurate sources of information on these issues," said New Mexico Sen. Pete Domenici, adding that the Senate defense spending committee that he serves on hasn't been notified of any such plans.


I'm starting to believe that the world is run by a small group of powerful men who manipulate the elections and wars of countries.

Why does Kerry keep coming up with these totally heresay remarks? If it isn't a fact, why would a candidate make such an accusation? This stuff is just too easy to discredit and impossible to prove.

[bootlen]

Yeah. Klown has pretty much narrowed the field to one candidate. Good job K-man...weakening the democratic process.

[ozone drone]

[i]Originally posted by RoBoTeq

I'm starting to believe that the world is run by a small group of powerful men who manipulate the elections and wars of countries. [/B]


I hate to admit it because it sounds like paranoid drivel, but ever since Clinton ...the supposed liberal God and the keeper of the democratic torch, the supposed protector of the downtrodden blue collar, union people ..pushed NAFTA through....It does make you wonder if it's all just smoke and mirrors and there is really no basic difference in which party is elected into office ...the agenda continues on.

[caosesvida]

yes the agenda does keep going on, it only gets swayed in one drection or the other, the pedulum theory. But we must keep on , none the less. ITs discouraging at times, and every civilization has had to do the same thing. If we stop caring about what is going on then we will be in a terrible spot. this may be where the extreme right and the extreme left through thier individual rehtorics shed light on intolerable actions by our government. And then maybe we go too far in the other direction. This is quite a balancing act we have had and the consquences o four failure, could be heard around the world.

[caosesvida]

about the war, either we are in the calm before the storm or the storm before the calm, but things are not looking good at this point. The anti groups in iraq have now had enough time to get really organized and get plenty of money and weapons from out side the country. There may have been no other route that we could have taken, but we are getting very bogged down there, if more troops are neede the national guard would be the place that they would come from along with troops from germany and south korea, which has already been discussed. Whether or not its before or after the election, makes no difference. We are going to be forced into making a desicion about troop deployment very soon. The death toll will become a driving issue, election or not in the very near future.

[hvac r us 2]

I am curious...

I agree Kerry is a bafoon, I try to have an open mind but he does the big time flip flop and I dont know where he is coming from...

Anyhow back to the curious part...do you think Bush is a good president or is it just a vote against Kerry?

[bootlen]

W has proven himself to be a leader. He is not afraid of what people outside the U.S. think. He has the interests of the U.S. as priority #1, just as he should. If we can help other nations as we look after our own, well and good. But as far as France, Spain, Germany...well, they can and have made their own beds.

[rob10]

I like Bush for having the gazongas to take on the issue of terrorism. IMO More power should be given unto him to wage war. As commander-in-chief he alone should have the final say on military matters.

[hvac r us 2]

You guys are serious? With all due respect, I don’t know how you figure?

Now all you Bush lovers don’t go getting your panties in a twist, I am just thinking out loud here…help me to understand.

Let’s see, Bush has bankrupted more than one company and now the United States has the largest deficit in the history of the country…that’s a little scary. Other country’s have went bankrupt, don’t think it cant happen here.

How is this war in Iraq a good thing? I am not seeing it. 250 Billion and climbing, maybe it’s just me but I can think of a lot of places here in the good old US of A that could use that money. I don’t think he has the American people as top priority, seems to me he is more concerned about the people of Iraq.

Not to mention there are no weapons of mass destruction. Almost like he had an agenda in place, just looking for a reason to sell it. Nothing like being lied to. Funny how that is just brushed off. “There are no weapons, sorry about that…but we had to attack them anyhow cause God told me it was the right thing to do”

How many people do you know that kill people because “God told them to” and you think they are sane? I think if God is talking to you and telling you to go and kill other people…you might be insane.

Oh, we are there for the oil anyhow right? Must be working, I only paid 1.99 a gallon yesterday for gas.

What about the Millions squandered away that was promised to underprivileged schools for computers? They don’t even know where the money went? Schools sure could use some of that 250 billion being spent in Iraq.

We are safer at home with W as commander and chief? I don’t know are we? Sure we haven’t been attacked since 9-11…but don’t forget we didn’t have anybody attacking us until W was in office. Is it possible we got attacked because the Bush team was a sleep at the wheel?

I keep hearing about Kerry’s voting record and how bad it is. The thing they don’t tell you is, in a side-by-side comparison between Cheney and Kerry, the voting record is just about identical. I just looked at this; as soon as I find it again I will post it if you want to see.

What about the Bush appointed head of the FCC, Colin Powell’s son Michael? He is going to decide for you what you can listen to and watch. Cause God knows you can’t decide for yourself…they will let you know what is good for you.

Nice to think you can survive in the world by yourself, but you really need allies around the world. Most of the world thinks we are **** right now, where is Don? He will tell you, even our friends in the North think we are pricks…I go to Canada, and I hear it first hand.

You know I have been so caught up in trying to figure out Kerry, I almost forgot what an idiot Bush is.

I just don’t think I can vote for mumbles. I just don’t know if I can look at that Alfred E Newman smirk (who me worry?) for another 4 years.

[ozone drone]

Originally posted by hvac r us 2
I am curious...

I agree Kerry is a bafoon, I try to have an open mind but he does the big time flip flop and I dont know where he is coming from...

Anyhow back to the curious part...do you think Bush is a good president or is it just a vote against Kerry?

I think the recent polls show that alot of people are begining to see Kerry as a windbag who hasn't a clue or a plan. A Baskin Robbins conviction of the month. Just says what he thinks you want to hear.

Like Rob says ... It's good that Bush has the balls to confront terrorism. What worries most people about Iraq is that we went in there with the naive assumption that we'd be welcomed as liberating the people of Iraq from the monster Saddam Hussein. That probably would have happened after Desert Storm in 91. Now we're in a quagmire.

Bush's advisors (read Cheney, Wolfowitz and Rumsfeld} have given him lots of faulty advice. I'd feel better voting for him if I knew he would get a new team of advisors with some talent and brains.

Even with my reservations, I'd still have to go with Bush over Kerry. I was on the fence for awhile...but the more I see of Kerry, the less I like.

[johnl45]

Originally posted by hvac r us 2
You guys are serious? With all due respect, I don’t know how you figure?

Now all you Bush lovers don’t go getting your panties in a twist, I am just thinking out loud here…help me to understand.

Let’s see, Bush has bankrupted more than one company and now the United States has the largest deficit in the history of the country…that’s a little scary. Other country’s have went bankrupt, don’t think it cant happen here.

How is this war in Iraq a good thing? I am not seeing it. 250 Billion and climbing, maybe it’s just me but I can think of a lot of places here in the good old US of A that could use that money. I don’t think he has the American people as top priority, seems to me he is more concerned about the people of Iraq.

Not to mention there are no weapons of mass destruction. Almost like he had an agenda in place, just looking for a reason to sell it. Nothing like being lied to. Funny how that is just brushed off. “There are no weapons, sorry about that…but we had to attack them anyhow cause God told me it was the right thing to do”

How many people do you know that kill people because “God told them to” and you think they are sane? I think if God is talking to you and telling you to go and kill other people…you might be insane.

Oh, we are there for the oil anyhow right? Must be working, I only paid 1.99 a gallon yesterday for gas.

What about the Millions squandered away that was promised to underprivileged schools for computers? They don’t even know where the money went? Schools sure could use some of that 250 billion being spent in Iraq.

We are safer at home with W as commander and chief? I don’t know are we? Sure we haven’t been attacked since 9-11…but don’t forget we didn’t have anybody attacking us until W was in office. Is it possible we got attacked because the Bush team was a sleep at the wheel?

I keep hearing about Kerry’s voting record and how bad it is. The thing they don’t tell you is, in a side-by-side comparison between Cheney and Kerry, the voting record is just about identical. I just looked at this; as soon as I find it again I will post it if you want to see.

What about the Bush appointed head of the FCC, Colin Powell’s son Michael? He is going to decide for you what you can listen to and watch. Cause God knows you can’t decide for yourself…they will let you know what is good for you.

Nice to think you can survive in the world by yourself, but you really need allies around the world. Most of the world thinks we are **** right now, where is Don? He will tell you, even our friends in the North think we are pricks…I go to Canada, and I hear it first hand.

You know I have been so caught up in trying to figure out Kerry, I almost forgot what an idiot Bush is.

I just don’t think I can vote for mumbles. I just don’t know if I can look at that Alfred E Newman smirk (who me worry?) for another 4 years.
Good post, Nice to see someone on the board with open factual mind. Robonut thinks whatever Bush says is God's truth even thou it been proven the guy's is a habitual liar.

[rob10]

$250,000.00 is chump change compared to the trillions in oil that we will own. BTW, to hell with the rest of the world. They will be subserviant to us in the end!!

[hvac r us 2]

Originally posted by rob10
$250,000.00 is chump change compared to the trillions in oil that we will own. BTW, to hell with the rest of the world. They will be subserviant to us in the end!!

Rob, I always enjoy your posts.

But come on, you cant be serious?
Stop with the Neo Nazi take no prisoners, to hell with everybody attitude.
That type of thinking is only good for Hollywood scripts, you should try and stay in touch with reality.

BTW, you are missing a few zeros on the 250.

[rob10]

$250,000,000,000.00 I stand corrected. No Hollywood scripts just the BIG N to get the job done. We have it. Why not use it?

[Edited by rob10 on 09-18-2004 at 04:44 PM]

[hvac r us 2]

Originally posted by rob10
$250,000,000,000.00 I stand corrected. No Hollywood scripts just the BIG N to get the job done. We have it. Why not use it?

[Edited by rob10 on 09-18-2004 at 04:44 PM]

LOL your killing me...I dont know if your for real or not? :)

[sodadude]

Originally posted by hvac r us 2
How is this war in Iraq a good thing? I am not seeing it. 250 Billion and climbing, maybe it’s just me but I can think of a lot of places here in the good old US of A that could use that money.







You cant put a price on the 3000 people that lost their lives on 9/11/01.

[rob10]

Originally posted by hvac r us 2

Originally posted by rob10
$250,000,000,000.00 I stand corrected. No Hollywood scripts just the BIG N to get the job done. We have it. Why not use it?

[Edited by rob10 on 09-18-2004 at 04:44 PM]

LOL your killing me...I dont know if your for real or not? :) Read my profile!

[RoBoTeq]

Originally posted by johnl45
Good post, Nice to see someone on the board with open factual mind. Robonut thinks whatever Bush says is God's truth even thou it been proven the guy's is a habitual liar.

RoBoNut has said nothing at all about what the President says. I have posted commentary on what Kerry is saying. Try to keep up with the conversation so you don't look so silly :D

[hvac r us 2]

Originally posted by sodadude

Originally posted by hvac r us 2
How is this war in Iraq a good thing? I am not seeing it. 250 Billion and climbing, maybe it’s just me but I can think of a lot of places here in the good old US of A that could use that money.







You cant put a price on the 3000 people that lost their lives on 9/11/01.


There is no tie between Iraq and 9-11. I don’t recall Bush saying anything about 9-11 when we went to war.

This is what the Bush camp does; I will say he is a master at miss directing information. He is great at diversion; he can get you focused the other way. He has already done that right? People are already trying to draw ties to Iraq and 9-11 (and there is none) since there were no weapons found. How about staying focused on the fact the Bush attacked a country on a pre-conceived notion, and was wrong. The whole world knew he was wrong, but he was going to show them…good job.

If they had ties then he should have said so, he did not I didn’t see anybody in the world telling us not to go to Afghanistan after 9-11. There are direct ties there and everybody knew it.

You have to wonder about a guy that thinks he is smarter than the whole world combined.

[rob10]

France and their fag loving cousins that are north of us!! Remember the treasonist Vichy government of the nazi occupation?? Canada has a bunch of that blood circulting in their veins.

[RoBoTeq]

One more time!!!!!! We are at war with Muslim terrorists and those who aide Muslim terrorists. Iraq was full of those who supported and dealt in Muslim terrorism.

BUT! This thread is about John Kerry and his left field accusations of our president. Try to focus.

[hvac r us 2]

Originally posted by rob10
France and their fag loving cousins that are north of us!! Remember the treasonist Vichy government of the nazi occupation?? Canada has a bunch of that blood circulting in their veins.

ROFLMAO What a way with words! You and James should team up and go on the road together, you would make a killling!

[rob10]

Probably a closet muslim. Has he ever proclaimed Christ as his Savior?? Wellllllllllll, HAS HE???

[bootlen]

hvac r us 2. You're kidding, right?



You guys are serious? With all due respect, I don’t know how you figure?

Now all you Bush lovers don’t go getting your panties in a twist, I am just thinking out loud here…help me to understand.

Let’s see, Bush has bankrupted more than one company and now the United States has the largest deficit in the history of the country…that’s a little scary. Other country’s have went bankrupt, don’t think it cant happen here.
*(Our nation is in a constant state of bankruptcy. The government is a NON-PROFIT organization.)

How is this war in Iraq a good thing? I am not seeing it. 250 Billion and climbing, maybe it’s just me but I can think of a lot of places here in the good old US of A that could use that money. I don’t think he has the American people as top priority, seems to me he is more concerned about the people of Iraq.
*(Yep. We could be spending it on medical bills and rebuliding damaged buildings from further terorist attacks.)

Not to mention there are no weapons of mass destruction. Almost like he had an agenda in place, just looking for a reason to sell it. Nothing like being lied to. Funny how that is just brushed off. “There are no weapons, sorry about that…but we had to attack them anyhow cause God told me it was the right thing to do”
*(W had the same intelligence reports that everybody else had. All of it coming not just from our intelligence but from every other agency involved.)

How many people do you know that kill people because “God told them to” and you think they are sane? I think if God is talking to you and telling you to go and kill other people…you might be insane.

Oh, we are there for the oil anyhow right? Must be working, I only paid 1.99 a gallon yesterday for gas.

What about the Millions squandered away that was promised to underprivileged schools for computers? They don’t even know where the money went? Schools sure could use some of that 250 billion being spent in Iraq.
*(Yeah, they lost millions already. Give 'em 250 million more to lose. That's real bright. You must have gone to one of those schools.)

We are safer at home with W as commander and chief? I don’t know are we? Sure we haven’t been attacked since 9-11…but don’t forget we didn’t have anybody attacking us until W was in office. Is it possible we got attacked because the Bush team was a sleep at the wheel?
*(Wrong, havc. We've been attacked on several occasions. You had your eyes closed when it happened.)

I keep hearing about Kerry’s voting record and how bad it is. The thing they don’t tell you is, in a side-by-side comparison between Cheney and Kerry, the voting record is just about identical. I just looked at this; as soon as I find it again I will post it if you want to see.
*(Yeah. They agree on 50% of all issues...because K can't make up his mind.)

What about the Bush appointed head of the FCC, Colin Powell’s son Michael? He is going to decide for you what you can listen to and watch. Cause God knows you can’t decide for yourself…they will let you know what is good for you.

Nice to think you can survive in the world by yourself, but you really need allies around the world. Most of the world thinks we are **** right now, where is Don? He will tell you, even our friends in the North think we are pricks…I go to Canada, and I hear it first hand.
*(So what? Do they have our best interests at heart. Heck no!)

You know I have been so caught up in trying to figure out Kerry, I almost forgot what an idiot Bush is.

I just don’t think I can vote for mumbles. I just don’t know if I can look at that Alfred E Newman smirk (who me worry?) for another 4 years.

*(Maybe you should move to a country that is better than this one.)

[hvac r us 2]

Originally posted by RoBoTeq
One more time!!!!!! We are at war with Muslim terrorists and those who aide Muslim terrorists. Iraq was full of those who supported and dealt in Muslim terrorism.



When did they say that? Was that after they didn’t find any weapons of mass destruction?
Guess you have to say something since you attacked them. Iraq was singled out; there are many more countries that support terrorism, why not go after all of them?

Good strategy I guess, at least you can get some Americans behind you since terrorism is a subject near and dear to the heart. Forget about the fact Americans agreed to go to Iraq on false pretenses.

Great diversion…bring up 9-11 instead of the fact they made a mistake. I admit the Bush team are masters at the game…damn they are good, better than Sigfreid and Roy.

[bootlen]

Originally posted by hvac r us 2

Originally posted by RoBoTeq
One more time!!!!!! We are at war with Muslim terrorists and those who aide Muslim terrorists. Iraq was full of those who supported and dealt in Muslim terrorism.



When did they say that? Was that after they didn’t find any weapons of mass destruction?
Guess you have to say something since you attacked them. Iraq was singled out; there are many more countries that support terrorism, why not go after all of them?

Good strategy I guess, at least you can get some Americans behind you since terrorism is a subject near and dear to the heart. Forget about the fact Americans agreed to go to Iraq on false pretenses.

Great diversion…bring up 9-11 instead of the fact they made a mistake. I admit the Bush team are masters at the game…damn they are good, better than Sigfreid and Roy.


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You must spend a lot of time sleeping. W said it in his speech to Congress.

[hvac r us 2]

Strange how you always attack people that dont agree with you Boot, I have always respected your opinion I would expect the same in return.

Everybody is entitled to there opinion. You dont want to debate or have a conversation, you want to argue with anybody that disagree's with you.

If this is the way you want the post to go I can berate people with the best of them.

[RoBoTeq]

But, hvac r us 2, what you stated wasn't an opinion, it was an incorrect statement.

[hvac r us 2]

Originally posted by RoBoTeq
But, hvac r us 2, what you stated wasn't an opinion, it was an incorrect statement.

What part was that? Seriously, I am not trying to be a prick..I really am following this election close and I am trying to understand.

[rob10]

There are only 2 choices

1. Scary Kerry

2. Bush the Conqueror


The choice is for your childrens future not the present. If you want freedom for your children and their children vote Bush!! If you want your daughters to be ravaged by the terrorist whordes vote Kerry. It's that simple!!

[James 3528]

Originally posted by hvac r us 2
You guys are serious? With all due respect, I don’t know how you figure?

Now all you Bush lovers don’t go getting your panties in a twist, I am just thinking out loud here…help me to understand.

Let’s see, Bush has bankrupted more than one company and now the United States has the largest deficit in the history of the country…that’s a little scary. Other country’s have went bankrupt, don’t think it cant happen here.

How is this war in Iraq a good thing? I am not seeing it. 250 Billion and climbing, maybe it’s just me but I can think of a lot of places here in the good old US of A that could use that money. I don’t think he has the American people as top priority, seems to me he is more concerned about the people of Iraq.

Not to mention there are no weapons of mass destruction. Almost like he had an agenda in place, just looking for a reason to sell it. Nothing like being lied to. Funny how that is just brushed off. “There are no weapons, sorry about that…but we had to attack them anyhow cause God told me it was the right thing to do”

How many people do you know that kill people because “God told them to” and you think they are sane? I think if God is talking to you and telling you to go and kill other people…you might be insane.

Oh, we are there for the oil anyhow right? Must be working, I only paid 1.99 a gallon yesterday for gas.

What about the Millions squandered away that was promised to underprivileged schools for computers? They don’t even know where the money went? Schools sure could use some of that 250 billion being spent in Iraq.

We are safer at home with W as commander and chief? I don’t know are we? Sure we haven’t been attacked since 9-11…but don’t forget we didn’t have anybody attacking us until W was in office. Is it possible we got attacked because the Bush team was a sleep at the wheel?

I keep hearing about Kerry’s voting record and how bad it is. The thing they don’t tell you is, in a side-by-side comparison between Cheney and Kerry, the voting record is just about identical. I just looked at this; as soon as I find it again I will post it if you want to see.

What about the Bush appointed head of the FCC, Colin Powell’s son Michael? He is going to decide for you what you can listen to and watch. Cause God knows you can’t decide for yourself…they will let you know what is good for you.

Nice to think you can survive in the world by yourself, but you really need allies around the world. Most of the world thinks we are **** right now, where is Don? He will tell you, even our friends in the North think we are pricks…I go to Canada, and I hear it first hand.

You know I have been so caught up in trying to figure out Kerry, I almost forgot what an idiot Bush is.

I just don’t think I can vote for mumbles. I just don’t know if I can look at that Alfred E Newman smirk (who me worry?) for another 4 years.








I will answer some of these assertions later unless someone beats me to it. For right now I will state this in regard to GW's business dealing Vs Kerry's Kerry was flat broke and sleeping on friends couches at one time, He lost everything he had in financial dealings...before he discover the obituaries. BTW....I know Don. Canada's health care system is a mess. He loves Canada and America and I would bet the farm he does not feel like you do.

[sodadude]

Originally posted by RoBoTeq
One more time!!!!!! We are at war with Muslim terrorists and those who aide Muslim terrorists.

Thank you Robin, at least someone "gets it".

[bootlen]

Originally posted by hvac r us 2
Strange how you always attack people that dont agree with you Boot, I have always respected your opinion I would expect the same in return.

Everybody is entitled to there opinion. You dont want to debate or have a conversation, you want to argue with anybody that disagree's with you.

If this is the way you want the post to go I can berate people with the best of them.



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My apologies, hvac. It is not my intention to berate you. I'm saving that for ac. :D

You seem to be pretty smart so I figured you had seen in the news the things I was talking about. No excuse, though, for how I responded. Hope you can forgive me.

[hvac r us 2]

No offense taken Boot...

And James, I know Canada's health care system is a mess first hand. I spend a lot of time there as my wife is still Canadian. Don may feel a certain way, but trust me there is issues there with us Americans. There were issues before the war in Iraq, but now it is worse.

I think you guys are getting the wrong impression, as I tend to be somewhat sarcastic, sorry.

Listen, I voted for Bush, I am a registered Republican, I am just irritated and looking for some guidance and explanations.

I refuse to blindly cast a vote without research, as I take my voting priviledge very seriously.

[bootlen]

Let me refer you to 2Chronicles 7:14. That promise holds still today.

[bootlen]

Originally posted by hvac r us 2
No offense taken Boot...

And James, I know Canada's health care system is a mess first hand. I spend a lot of time there as my wife is still Canadian. Don may feel a certain way, but trust me there is issues there with us Americans. There were issues before the war in Iraq, but now it is worse.

I think you guys are getting the wrong impression, as I tend to be somewhat sarcastic, sorry.

Listen, I voted for Bush, I am a registered Republican, I am just irritated and looking for some guidance and explanations.

I refuse to blindly cast a vote without research, as I take my voting priviledge very seriously.

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Okay, hvac. I believe you do indeed take your voting privilege seriously. Good. Now try to follow me on this.

Psalm 15 says

"O, Lord, who may abide in your family? Who may dwell on Thy holy hill?
"He who walks with integrity, and works righteousness, and speaks the truth in his heart.
"He does not slander with his tongue, nor does evil to his neighbor, nor takes up a reproach against his friend;
"in whose eyes a reprobate is despised, but who honors those who fear the Lord.
"He does not put out his money at interest," (and now get this) "nor does he take a bribe against the innocent."

I think it's clear which candidate has integrity, which one speaks truth.
But most importantly, consider this...you go to the polls in November and you got your wallet in your hand touching your temple, thinking, "Kerry PROMISES a better economy, more money in my pocket. Bush has proven he is against abortion by his record. Let me see now...a PROMISE of a fatter wallet or saved babies."
If you choose Kerry's PROMISE of a better paycheck over someone who will do what they can to save babies, you have taken a bribe against the innocent. There is blood on your paycheck and you are an accessory to murder.

[RoBoTeq]

Originally posted by hvac r us 2

Originally posted by RoBoTeq
But, hvac r us 2, what you stated wasn't an opinion, it was an incorrect statement.

What part was that? Seriously, I am not trying to be a prick..I really am following this election close and I am trying to understand.

Awww c'mon....we all like being pricks here :D

Anyway, here is your quote with my commentary in bold;

hvac r us 2
Member

Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 732

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Originally posted by RoBoTeq
One more time!!!!!! We are at war with Muslim terrorists and those who aide Muslim terrorists. Iraq was full of those who supported and dealt in Muslim terrorism.


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When did they say that? Was that after they didn’t find any weapons of mass destruction?
Guess you have to say something since you attacked them. Iraq was singled out; there are many more countries that support terrorism, why not go after all of them?

Good strategy I guess, at least you can get some Americans behind you since terrorism is a subject near and dear to the heart. Forget about the fact Americans agreed to go to Iraq on false pretenses.

As has been mentioned, this was part of the President's speech to Congress. It is just not the part that the anti-President libbies dwell on.

Also, the WMD portion of our going into Iraq was believed by literally every government entity in the world "INCLUDING" John Kerry. The information on Iraq continuing to build a nuclear weapon was based on information that was believed by many countries at the time and is still being investigated as to having truth to it

Great diversion…bring up 9-11 instead of the fact they made a mistake. I admit the Bush team are masters at the game…damn they are good, better than Sigfreid and Roy.
Believing intelligence that turns out not to be accurate is not diversion, it is what President Carter did not do to prevent the hostage situation that resulted in Iran.
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Persistence breaks resistance.


09-18-2004 05:30 PM

[Murphcoair]

What I really love is that the first thing Kerry does with supposedly secret(future) troop deployment info is expose it to the public for political gain . Does not seem like commander in chief type decision making.

[bootlen]

Yeah. I thought after 35 years he'd be a changed man. Doesn't appear so.

[hvac r us 2]

Even with my reservations, I'd still have to go with Bush over Kerry. I was on the fence for awhile...but the more I see of Kerry, the less I like. [/B][/QUOTE]


See I am in the same boat. The more Kerry talks, the more I dislike him.

You know what I find strange? Where are all the Kerry supporters? If they truly believe in this guy and are passionate about his cause you would think they would be out in droves…I never hear a word. I gave them a pretty good opportunity here don’t you think?

I wish there was some that would speak up and tell me where this guy is coming from. At least the Bush people will speak up and explain their stance.

Say something about Bush and watch his legion of loyal supporters rip you a new A- hole. Say something about Kerry, and there is nothing but silence….

I want to make the right choice and back the right person to preserve the America that I know and love, the same America I want my kids to know.

[johnl45]

Originally posted by RoBoTeq

Originally posted by johnl45
Good post, Nice to see someone on the board with open factual mind. Robonut thinks whatever Bush says is God's truth even thou it been proven the guy's is a habitual liar.

RoBoNut has said nothing at all about what the President says. I have posted commentary on what Kerry is saying. Try to keep up with the conversation so you don't look so silly :D Your words "an allegation that the Bush campaign called "false and ridiculous." You should read the commentaries that you post or is Kerry speaking for the Bush campaign? It would be an improvement.

[ozone drone]

Originally posted by hvac r us 2

Even with my reservations, I'd still have to go with Bush over Kerry. I was on the fence for awhile...but the more I see of Kerry, the less I like.


See I am in the same boat. The more Kerry talks, the more I dislike him.

You know what I find strange? Where are all the Kerry supporters? If they truly believe in this guy and are passionate about his cause you would think they would be out in droves…I never hear a word. I gave them a pretty good opportunity here don’t you think?

I wish there was some that would speak up and tell me where this guy is coming from. At least the Bush people will speak up and explain their stance.


Say something about Bush and watch his legion of loyal supporters rip you a new A- hole. Say something about Kerry, and there is nothing but silence….

I want to make the right choice and back the right person to preserve the America that I know and love, the same America I want my kids to know.
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I know exactly how you feel. I don't think I'll have that good feeling leaving the voting booth knowing I did the right thing.....We won't know til we see how events unfold in the coming months and years.

I look at Bush and am uneasy that we're not on the correct path.

I look at Kerry and it reminds me of the movie from the eighties "Used Cars" where Kurt Russell when talking to a Hispanic customer, talks in a clipped Mexican accent. If a Black customer walks up "Hey Bro ..What it is" ..So apparently phoney you roll your eyes.

Some choice we have.....Dumb and predictable as opposed to Phoney and unpredictable. I'll have to go with the known. If ever there was an election where the choices came down to the lesser of two evils ...this is it.

[infwsdm]

Originally posted by hvac r us 2




How about staying focused on the fact the Bush attacked a country on a pre-conceived notion, and was wrong. The whole world knew he was wrong, but he was going to show them…good job.



The WHOLE world huh? France, germany, and russia do not constitute the whole world.

Those three countries started doing business with saddam and all the resolutions were breaking down.

Have you heard of the oil for food scandel?

If Bush does nothing, then it gets worse for a future president and maybe an involvement by saddam in a terrorist attack against the USA

[James 3528]

Bush attack a country under the provisions of the desert storm cease fire agreements Iraq signed. And then after numerous UN violations and resolutions.

If you don't understand that, you dolt's should hang out on another forum with people equal to your intelligence levels, We don't need anymore people peddling stupid around here. We already have mankow,motorboy, johnny and ideas.

[RoBoTeq]

IGI has been coming around to more sensible thinking so I will continue to have hope for him.....but, I have to admit I become more stupid when exposed to the rantings of Mankow, motormouth and johnl45. What ever happened to geer? He could really drop the IQ level of a thread :D

[James 3528]

Geer found God and God told him to get lost...so his head exploded!

[RoBoTeq]

Originally posted by James 3528
Geer found God and God told him to get lost...so his head exploded!

Unfortunately he has been resurected on another forum under a different name.

[bootlen]

Originally posted by RoBoTeq

Originally posted by James 3528
Geer found God and God told him to get lost...so his head exploded!

Unfortunately he has been resurected on another forum under a different name.

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You're kiddin', right?

[johnl45]

Originally posted by James 3528
Bush attack a country under the provisions of the desert storm cease fire agreements Iraq signed. And then after numerous UN violations and resolutions.

If you don't understand that, you dolt's should hang out on another forum with people equal to your intelligence levels, We don't need anymore people peddling stupid around here. We already have mankow,motorboy, johnny and ideas. hvac r us 2 don't you get it? The fact that the Bush administration mislead Congress about WMD means nothing. The fanatical right-wingers on this board can't stand to hear anything that doesn't agree with their narrow-minded way of thinking? Just go away you’re not pure enough to be amongst them as they are far superior to all other beings on the planet. The right-wing religious fanatics in this country aren’t much different that the Muslim religious fanatics around the world.

[johnl45]

Originally posted by rob10
There are only 2 choices
1. Scary Kerry

2. Bush the Conqueror

The choice is for your childrens future not the present. If you want freedom for your children and their children vote Bush!! If you want your daughters to be ravaged by the terrorist whordes vote Kerry. It's that simple!! I thinking you must be simple minded. Just what is it that Bush Conquered? Lets see 1027 dead, 7000 injured most since Bush claimed victory. If you want to sacrifice your sons and daughters vote Bush. If you’re for getting this country out of the mess Bush has us in vote Kerry.

[bootlen]

Obviously, you never learned to read and you are dictating these posts.

[rob10]

Originally posted by johnl45

Originally posted by rob10
There are only 2 choices
1. Scary Kerry

2. Bush the Conqueror

The choice is for your childrens future not the present. If you want freedom for your children and their children vote Bush!! If you want your daughters to be ravaged by the terrorist whordes vote Kerry. It's that simple!! I thinking you must be simple minded. Just what is it that Bush Conquered? Lets see 1027 dead, 7000 injured most since Bush claimed victory. If you want to sacrifice your sons and daughters vote Bush. If you’re for getting this country out of the mess Bush has us in vote Kerry. When al-queda is in your living room you will blame it on Bush!! Get a life!! Get sum balls!!


http://ww2.imagewiz.net/images/hvac/129076_KERRY_TEDDY.gif

[Edited by rob10 on 09-20-2004 at 06:45 AM]

[RoBoTeq]

Originally posted by bootlen

Originally posted by RoBoTeq

Originally posted by James 3528
Geer found God and God told him to get lost...so his head exploded!

Unfortunately he has been resurected on another forum under a different name.

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You're kiddin', right?

Nope! He's become a maverick elsewhere.

[RoBoTeq]

Originally posted by rob10

http://ww2.imagewiz.net/images/hvac/129076_KERRY_TEDDY.gif

[Edited by rob10 on 09-20-2004 at 06:45 AM] [/B]

Wow! They're breaking up before they come out of the closet? Kerry must really be running scared.

[caosesvida]

man kennedy looks bad!

[sodadude]

Originally posted by caosesvida
man kennedy looks bad!

Casio, you a friend of Bills?

[infwsdm]

Originally posted by johnl45

Originally posted by James 3528
Bush attack a country under the provisions of the desert storm cease fire agreements Iraq signed. And then after numerous UN violations and resolutions.

If you don't understand that, you dolt's should hang out on another forum with people equal to your intelligence levels, We don't need anymore people peddling stupid around here. We already have mankow,motorboy, johnny and ideas. hvac r us 2 don't you get it? The fact that the Bush administration mislead Congress about WMD means nothing. The fanatical right-wingers on this board can't stand to hear anything that doesn't agree with their narrow-minded way of thinking? Just go away you’re not pure enough to be amongst them as they are far superior to all other beings on the planet. The right-wing religious fanatics in this country aren’t much different that the Muslim religious fanatics around the world.

You are a freaken fruitcake and you don't know what the hell you are talking about.

Now you say everyone that doesn't agree with you is a right-wing religious fanaic. Give it a rest!