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09-04-2004, 08:22 AM
Growing up you always had the Chevy vs Ford thing going "and of course we all know Chevy rules" but it was all domestic V8 muscle whether it was Ford, Chevy/GM, or Mopar. Now it's V8 muscle vs rice burners. I admit alot of them look cool and some are very fast but I guess I'm just too old school to buy into the concept of sinking thousands of dollars into a disposable car. It just don't make sense. I was at Thorntons the other day gassing up and these young guys had their cars off to the side so I went over and the one with his hood up on his Neon shows me his turbo and telling me about the special cam and suspension parts and I asked what's the dollar amount invested. He say he's got 8 grand of accesaries in it! A F'n Neon! I compliment the kids only because that's what they like and thank God my son only like domestic muscle. I found a pretty cool site though with nice stickers http://home.grandecom.net/~chughes/temp/ricexws.htm I just ordered the No NOS and the 100% muscle my son wants me to get the Rice Killer.
Do any of you guys get into rice burners? I even put domestic compacts into the rice catagory.
09-04-2004, 09:12 AM
I'm with you I dont understand the fascination with the import scene, some (very few) are fast and tastefully done but the majority are ridiculous, I laugh everytime I see a Honda, stickers all over the car, silly looking body kit, taillights Richard Simmons would be pround of, and a very obnoxious exhaust that sounds like a fart...
Friends dont let friends drive rice :D
[Edited by swampfox on 09-04-2004 at 09:20 AM]
09-04-2004, 10:55 AM
I agree with ya-I like the old 'vettes and camaros,chevelles,etc.These new rice burners dont do anything for me-same with the cycles.Gimme a Harley and day.
09-04-2004, 12:13 PM
my chevelle couldn't smoke ! ... No Replacement for Displacement ... she's packinn' a 502 ........:D
09-04-2004, 01:58 PM
this is a pic of the car my father and i built
its a classic roadster kit car(replica) of the '67 shelby cobra;however my father and i are both chevy fans therefore it has a chevy drivetrain(400 small block bored out to a 406, 350turbo tranny w/ shift kit,ford 9" rearend w/ 3:73 gears)it took us about a year to get it all together...we done all the work and rebuilds ourself-except for the paintjob
i like watching the rice burners faces when we drive it through town
09-04-2004, 02:15 PM
I really can't understand how some people actually like that crap. Now I'm not saying there isn't a few ricers that are nice and fast but not many.
Ever since the bi and the curious, err fast and furious came out it's gotten crazy. I can't stand the sound of 99.9% of them fart can exhausts, funny how my 350 powered super heavy work van would probably keep up with most of them in a race. It's cool to see kids into cars, I think more people should be interested in them, but it'd be nice to see more "real" cars around.
It'd be nice to see the car companies get back into muscle cars, or at least a reasonably priced car that could be souped up and made to be something. Cut back on the SUV's and the front wheel drive crap!
09-04-2004, 03:43 PM
Nice ride service guy..
I love old cars, just don't have money to get one yet. I would like to get a 1971 1/2 Camaro with the split front bumper. I found one once for 11G's but it was all set up for drag racing, drag slicks, blown, NoX, the works. I'd like to find one and set it up for road racing. Right now I have a rough looking but very strong running 1987 Chevy 3/4 ton. It has a built 350 4 bolt with 350TH tranny and a 4:10 rear. It spins about 4,000rpm at 70mph, so it's not really any good for interstates, not to mention the stifff as hell suspension. I've replaced almost everything on it but the body. I'd like to sell it and get a car or Harley though now.
As far as car companies getting back into building muscle cars. The GTO's are fast as hell but a big dissapointment in the looks department and they are NOT cheap. The Hemi Chrysler 300's packs a hell of a punch and the Magnum can rip **** up too but they really aren't that great looking. With Ford bringing back the 60's styling in the Mustangs maybe that'll get Chevy encouraged to try something with Camaro's again, and they better not be front wheel drive.
09-04-2004, 05:05 PM
why in the world ??? woulda ya wanna buy an emission controlled, federally stamped, hands off ! .. "hemi" or somethin' ?? whadda they cost 30 g's ??/ i got a '66 impala s/s. a '66 chevelle convert. a '66 el camino, a'71 s/s chevelle 502 .... 'an i stll aint spent the 30 g's
09-04-2004, 06:12 PM
What is your anti-rice?
this is mine...
09-04-2004, 06:14 PM
Bought the wife one of those in white that year.
09-04-2004, 06:37 PM
85 actually, looks the same as an 86 GT except doesnt have a 3rd brake light, also carb instead of EFI
09-04-2004, 06:47 PM
Here's my rice eater. Those are nice cars guys.
The engine looks kinda crappy in that picture the carb came loose somehow and leaked gas all over but it's all cleaned up and fixed now.I ran a 13.6 in the 1/4 last year. Every time I plan on going this year something comes up. I'm only running a 373 gear but if everything goes right I'm getting a 12 bolt 411 set up. Bad part about that is when we do the cruise to Somerset I'll have to switch it out with the 373.
Hey Swamp, didn't I see a pic of that Stang doing a wheelie?
I had a 76' Mustang II with Cobra kit on it and after I blew the 302 I put in a 351W with fender well headers and all. That baby would launch but never did run it at the track.
09-04-2004, 07:16 PM
No wheelies for me, best is 13.2 @ 104
09-04-2004, 07:35 PM
sryy but this is a old pic of the engine,we have since taken off the 400 heads and installed a set of the 041's which were treated nicely to a set of 2.02/1.60 valves, roller rockers, and a complete port and polish job-a moroso water resovoir,msd 6-al ignition box,mallory distributer, taylor 409 wires, and a 3000 stall...this pic is bout a year old and my dig cam is broken so once again srry bout the old pic but i believe i have added all the new upgrades within this post
09-04-2004, 11:03 PM
how times change.
Today it is muscle car vs rice bruner.
In my day it was Hot Rod VS muscle car. Only the muscle cars were from Detroit and the Hot Rods were hand built and one of a kind.
I notice that classic car events the over 57 croud have Hot Rods and the under 57 croud have muscle cars.
09-05-2004, 07:28 PM
I always wanted to find an old panel truck, restore it and have it lettered and use it for a service or installation truck. It'd be a cool way of advertising.
09-05-2004, 09:06 PM
I've had the same idea about doing an old panel truck. I'm looking at a 41 chebby 3/4 ton and seeing what it would take to upgrade brakes and steering. This truck is as big as my service van, 137 in wheelbase and 9 ft from seatbacks to rear doors. Seller wants $2400 but wife says we got to finish our 64 ragtop first. It's a good solid truck, no rust but a little body work needs to be done. It would be a killer for advertising.
09-06-2004, 10:17 AM
there is nothing cooler than the old muscle cars, the deep rumbles heavy cars with so much power they jump and shake when they come to life it is truly exhilirating.
The rice burners have walked away from the classic sexy look and are pretty ugly, the exhaust on these things sounds horrid I hate it with a passion, but...
when steps back and looks at nothing but performance the rice burners got em beat, I know pride has ya saying things like, "rice eater" and "no replacement for displacement", but these things run,now I am not talking about the piece of crap that the teenager put the pipe on, but if ya take one and put the same money into upgrades and buildouts from stock that is put into the ones pictured here, a large number of the rice burners are gonna run with or ahead...with signifigantly less less displacement, much as I hate to admit it but it is true.
09-06-2004, 11:28 AM
the 502 / 4L60e combo don't give anything away ... i got overdrive too ! .. that, 'an i don't have to spin my motor to 10,000 R's to get any power .. chevelle's got room for real tires, weights not that bad since we have 550 #/ ft of torque to make things happen ...straight line, we eat rice every time ! 10.95 on the street .. want some sake with your rice ??
09-07-2004, 07:17 PM
i strongly disagree with u...i.e.ican purchase an '89 mustang for about $2-$3k and spend another $2 in it and have a car that runs in the low 12's to high 11's so now at most i have about $5k in it...now i take that same $5k and spend it on a '89 honda civic and i might be in the low 13's if i am lucky...theres a big difference here
However...i'm not saying that u cannot make these rice burners fast, but you will have at least twice the money and time in it to achieve that kind of speed...and then too there are those few exceptions such as the 94-96 supra w/twin turbos(300 hp from the factory,rr drive, 5-speed)however to this day these cars are selling in the mid $20's, so there again ur talking alot more money...can u imagine what kind of power i could get out of that $2k-$3k mustang with an additonal $22k to spend in it...ALOT MORE THAN 300HP AT THE REAR WHEELS I PROMISE U
09-08-2004, 08:23 AM
Another point is to ponder this thought.....Lets say I buy a 70' Chevelle for $5K put another $5k in it for a total of $10K. Then my neighbor buys a 90' Honda Prelude for $5K and puts another $5K in mods. Now fast foward 20 years... both cars were well taken care of who's would be the more desirable and valuble. The 55 year old V8 Chevelle or the 30 year old 4 banger Honda. I guess it waould all matter in personal taste but I think in the real world the Chevelle would quadruple or more in value and the Honda wouldn't.
09-08-2004, 09:20 AM
they aint makin any more of either one! Gonna go up.
09-08-2004, 01:52 PM
Just this weekend, I went to watch the farmers play with thier trucks and tractors.
I love the smell of alcohol burning in a rat motor with hemi heads and a supercharger!
Of course, more is better!
Then, if you like jet engines......
no, that would be rediculous!
09-08-2004, 01:56 PM
Originally posted by spotts
they aint makin any more of either one! Gonna go up.
Don't you owe us some pictures?!?!?!
09-08-2004, 04:35 PM
Ricer's might not be fast but something inside me thinks it is kinda cool when they can make the car hop up and down, or park it with one wheel in the air. Kinda dumb but kinda cool, but that is what boys are all about. I have been to a S-10 forum recently, and it is all about coaxing all the power out of little engines, same old thing, more fuel, more air, more headaches, it is a ton more work to get power out of rice, too bad they are still not much, but it is kinda like my first car, my dad was not to worried about me in my 62 falcon with a 144. If you kill yourself in one of those, speed cannot be the reason!
Mine is a '68 Mustang with a 289. It was a basketcase when I got it for $750. I have well over $6K in it. Took it down to the "frame", added support for the unibody. It has new suspension and front disk brakes. It is not original, but has dealer installed AC. It was just about the only car at the track with AC. I drove it to the track (100% street legal), did not change tires and still turned consistant 14's.
It has been sitting in the garage for over a year now. Missed a gear and threw a rod. I have a 289 on the stands, but no time to work on it.
Unloading it from the trailer after it threw a rod, I was offered $7.5K.
09-08-2004, 06:07 PM
572 c.i. 620 HP chev. crate motor? Ooooooh golly I hope that old dude trades me that '55 BelAir!
09-08-2004, 07:13 PM
Pictures. Pictures. I know. I know. It's just haaaaard when your as lazy as me.
09-08-2004, 08:07 PM
i have a 1970 corvette with a 502 and road pipes. i like to pull up next to the ricers and try to get them to race me but they never want to for some reason.
09-09-2004, 12:11 AM
This is what I use... Works pretty good!
09-09-2004, 10:24 PM
I think it all started with the fast and the furious.
I have a friend that had a 78' Trans Am with a 455 bored 30 over auto (his and her shifter). Not sure of its times but it was fast i drove it a few times. I respected it after goin 45 mph and Hammering it and having it hick side ways.
He sold it 3 months ago i almost bought it for $2,800. But i got enough problems with my lead foot. LOL
09-10-2004, 11:29 PM
SPOTTS.... All you gotta do is go to image wiz and download the pics. You're kill'n us man. It's like a fish story. :D :D :D
The bi and the curious?
Amick, that's some funny **** right there!
[Edited by sonc on 09-11-2004 at 05:56 AM]
09-11-2004, 06:41 AM
It's alright for people to take pride in their ride. But how about when they cut the mufflers off and ask the stupid question. 'HOW DOES THAT SOUND'. And get their little feelings hurt when your honest and say it sounds like it needs a muffler. I've got a '78 fairmont with a 351 Windsor, headers, and MUFFLERS :)
09-11-2004, 06:53 PM
Sweet ride...if only it was a '67..sigh..
[Edited by sonc on 09-12-2004 at 03:57 AM]
My brother has biult several '66 SS over the years. He just finished a 55 Nomad last year.
09-13-2004, 12:22 PM
of the '67 that I sold to buy my 66. I just hated the powerglide in that car! http://www.fallharvestcarshow.org/images/DSCF0004.JPG
09-13-2004, 12:25 PM
Nice ride Slim. Gave me a woodie just looking at it with those old school Cragers.
Good start Spotts. Love that car.
Not too long ago, there were a lot of people using those powerglides with a Vega torque convertor on drag cars.
That powerglide is a rugged tranny and the Vega TC makes it 3000 stall. I did tear one all apart on the track one time. As soon as I took the rear crossover member out, the powerglide fell out in about 1/2 dozen pieces. It did twist the drive shaft in two. I did not know the tranny was messed up until I crawled under to take the drive shaft out.
My brother has the whole thing on video. I shot out of the hole for about 20 feet then my car started jumping all over the track. The part of the shaft on the rear end tore a deep gash in the track.
09-13-2004, 01:09 PM
a powerglide can be awesome. That chevelle had a 265 HP 327 with high gears. It was no fun at all to drive but ran allright on the interstate. My new 66 Chevelle has a 350 hp 327 with a 4 spd. and a posi rear. Now thats fun to drive!
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