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clydemule
08-06-2004, 12:43 AM
I have been having an odd problem, maybe something you guys have seen before.

I am building a dual circuit glycol chiller with 2 2DA3075E Discus compressors.

I moved the sight glasses around so they would be at the front so they are easier to see. An hour or two I was bending over to pick up a tool, and I noticed that the sight glass on the #2 compressor was cracked. It had circular, curved cracks. They didn't seem to go all the way through, but I don't want to sell that to my customer so I went to United and bought another one. The sight glass on the other compressor was okey dokey.

Before putting on the new sight glass, I inspected that face area on the compressor body, the sight glass, made sure the gasket/o-ring/washer was in straight. Installed the new one, made sure to tighten the screws evenly. About 1/8 turn each one, in a circle.

This one cracked too! But not near as bad. As I tightened you could see the circular cracks beginning to form on the outside of the glass, as if you were bending the thing in half.

Since the cracks were only noticeable when you looked at an angle and the light was right, I replaced the oil, and started to put the unit on vacuum. Don't remember the number exactly, but I couldn't drop below 3k microns. I looked at the sight glass, and saw little bubbles. I mean they were tiny (tiny bubbles, in the wine). For ****s and giggles I put 100 psi of nitrogen, and soaped the glass and the outside edge of the glass frame. Nothing.

Tightened the crap out of the glass, cracks seemed worse, but not as bad as the first one. Pumped it down again, bubbles were gone, 1000 microns and dropping slowly and I went home.

I have built a lot of chillers, but as lame as it sounds this is my first time with semis. Luckily my customer has run into permit delays on their new brewery, so I can take my time to make it right.

Is this something weird? Am I jsut a dunce and doing something wrong? At this point I am planning on putting a new sight glass on the side like it was shipped. You can still see it, just not as easily.

Thanks for any input.

Clyde

frozenhead
08-06-2004, 05:40 AM
story too long dude

Freezeking2000
08-06-2004, 10:19 PM
I move them to the front all the time and if i tighten them enevenly this happens.

refer dude 2479
08-07-2004, 01:02 AM
I have had a glass crack here and there but always due to my not getting the surface clean. If you see cracks in the glass Iwould be a little shy about putting too much pressure behind it and looking at it. you only get one pair of eyes. I would contact Copeland Factory service rep. If you are in the buisiness of building chillers I am sure that they would be more than willing to help you solve this problem so they can provide you with more compressors for future chillers.

sonc
08-07-2004, 07:53 AM
I think every sightglass i've replaced has cracked on me lol. I just gave up trying to relocate them..

clydemule
08-07-2004, 11:05 AM
reefer dude:

I had the same thought. Got back up after looking down and put on the face shield from my grinder.

Thanks,

Clyde

emerson climate tech
08-07-2004, 12:57 PM
I don't have much experience with cracked SGs, but I think it is usually an uneven torque problem. When I was building racks we almost always had the glass in front with an oil float on the side. It could be cracking because the flange isn't quite flat or debris on the surface.

Refer dude is right- call Servie Engineering in Sidney and ask them for advice.