God On Call .... Does He Come With You?............

[R12rules]

Is there room for God, THE GOD!, the God of Creation to come with you on service calls and installation projects?
Do you make room for His presence where you work at?

Do you ask Him for help in making the day go safely and to get things done correctly?

Do you ask Him for help with "tough dog problems"?

Do you pray for your employer? For your supervisor? For your co-workers?

Do you make room for Him at work?



I know many of you come here to request prayer for serious illness as they come up.
I know some of you here ask for prayer from us when your in an accident or get laid up for awhile.


I believe God honors our prayer requesting Divine help in our workplace.

[i_got_ideas]

I am not very religious but I have to admit that there has been many occasions that I know the big guy has been watching over me.

I was cruising down the interstate one day on my way to a geo-thermal unit not cooling. Minding my own business a huge motor home comes up beside me and he must have thought he passed me because he started merging into my lane. I held my ground until he was about 1" from my mirror, then for the shoulder I went. All went ok but dropping onto the gravel at 70mph, it could have been much worse, or it could've happened on a bridge, or there could've been a car broke down on the shoulder, or there.....you get the point.

There's been more than one situation like this over the years.

It has been years since I've been to church, something like 12-13 years. However, I do believe. IN GOD I TRUST.

[remember]

i am always with god

and always have been

and always will be



but i'm waiting for the religious fundementalist wacko types to figure it out.

wahhabists/ and evangelical christians and zionist jews

are children who know not of what they speak.


proof is in their actions and agressive reactions,and their outlooks on the world.
their rationalization for views they can't let go of.

their belief that somehow they are special,due to what they think they have found in some "sacred text";and "all others be dammed

god is a whore
we are all in this together

grace be with us all

[rob10]

Originally posted by remember
i am always with god

and always have been

and always will be



but i'm waiting for the religious fundementalist wacko types to figure it out.

wahhabists/ and evangelical christians and zionist jews

are children who know not of what they speak.


proof is in their actions and agressive reactions,and their outlooks on the world.
their rationalization for views they can't let go of.

their belief that somehow they are special,due to what they think they have found in some "sacred text";and "all others be dammed

god is a whore
we are all in this together

grace be with us all

Read Ephesians

[cehs]

MANY times while at work, I will need guidance and receive it almost miraculously.
It is like I hear HIS voice and I follow.

I would like for more to hear his voice and follow, but some don't hear the air for the wind...

A story:
Two men were walking down a sidewalk in New York discussing music, when one of them stopped and walked over to the wall of the building beside them and found a cricket chirping in the crack of the stone wall. The second man asked how he found the cricket.
"I heard it" the first man said.
"How is that possable with all this noise from the cars and busses passing by?" the second man asked.
The first man reached down into his pocket and pulled out a handful of coins, tossed them into the air and they fell to the sidewalk. Immediately several bystanders rushed over to pick up some of the coins.
"It is all in what you are listening for" replied the first man...

What/who are you listening for/to???

[rob10]

Good post cehs!!

[bigbird]

I wished he was with me saturday, maybe he would have told me to take my thumb out of the truck door before i closed it.

[jeffkillen]

I'm not very religious either but I do have my beliefs.The thing I dont like is people pushing thier beliefs on me as if mine are wrong!A guy I work with and have for nearly ten years suddenly decided to get saved one sunday,came to work monday morning a different person.Now I have no problem with this but he started an everyday ritual of telling me at quitting time that he would pray for me that night.This went on for a while then one day I finally him to stop because "frankly your scaring the hell out of me". He said thats what I'm trying to do.Now if I'm going to turn before I burn It's surely not going to be at the insistance of an overnight self proclaimed evangelistic hypocrit!

[R12rules]

Originally posted by jeffkillen
"frankly your scaring the hell out of me". He said thats what I'm trying to do.Now if I'm going to turn before I burn It's surely not going to be at the insistance of an overnight self proclaimed evangelistic hypocrit!

Some folks realize their service to Christ is simply being available. To simple "be there" and do what can be done for a person.

People who believe do not get points for speaking up. They do sence though, whenever someone elsehas chosen to reject them.

Several here have mentioned how religious zealots have offended them.
Well, it is not an offence also to reject them?

Many say that turnabout is fair play. So is that what some are doing? Just to get revenge on others?
In my book, rejection is a serious offence. I take it personally.

However, in God's book .... rejection is even more serious!


I dont know who has approached you and spoken up in His Name.
If they did so with loving you in their heart .... I doubt they did so to hurt or offend you.
I doubt they meant you any harm.

If someoneo rejects me. I will get over it.
If they reject God, He will remember them when they come to His door knocking to get in.
And someday it WILL happen. Trust Him!




I didnt begin this thread to invite antagonistic comment. I just thought that if someone has a relationship with Him, they would simply share how they work out their day with God.

I would assume you wouldnt leave your thoughts of Him at the church doorstep.
I hope you dont leave your awareness of Him at home.


This is not to make you uncomfortable. This is not to make your neighbor uncomfortable either.

So if you feel uncomfortable with talking about God in your workday, then please refrain from posting here and go elsewhere to antagonise people. This is NOT the thread for argueing.

[R12rules]

Originally posted by bigbird
I wished he was with me saturday, maybe he would have told me to take my thumb out of the truck door before i closed it.
Ouch! :(
Ya know, I used to wish I had Divine Knowledge prior to certain events happening.

But for some reason, God in His love for me allowed that event to take place.

I dont believe God wanted your finger slammed in that door.
Nor do I think God wanted me to take that fall I did back in 96'.

But sometimes little events like that shake us up just enought to get our attention and cause us to realise there is a bigger picture goin on than what we are currently viewing.



I've been thru two employers in the last few months. Had I harbored animosity towards them, that would have nullified any amount of good I may have done for them while I was in their service.

But I tried to represent them as best I could.
Up every morning.
Dressed neat and ready for work.
Called in and went right after my assignment.
Tried to get thepaperowrk made out and written up so it would be readable and not give corperate any hangups. I tried to leave the job as clean as it was when I got there. If it was a motor room, I left it a little cleaner than when I arrived.
And I tried to stay out of discussions that would only lead to fussing.


It was not my intent to be arguementative.

I just didnt see it as being helpful to anyone.
Claiming Christ as my Savior, it gives me assurance of my present life but also my future for Eternity.
But it does not give me an excuse to badger anyone to be like me.
It is not a license to argue with someone who has absolutely no interest in his or her future.

If someone asks, I will speak up. If someone has a problem, I will listen. If they ask for advice, I will share it. However, if they dont ask for advice ... I might ask if they have considered Jesus.
If they reject Him there, I let them go.

Jesus is NOT on trial today. People have either made up their minds and hearts or they havent.
For those who are open hearted, open in their inner man... perhaps God will call to them and maybe they will respond. And just possibly, if I am in their neighborhood, God would choose to use me to answer some tough questions or make a sugestion or two.

[air1]

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[rob10]

God gave us the nuke. Why not use it. He also told Israel in the OT to totally wipe out her enenmies!!!

[R12rules]

Originally posted by air1
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You deep man, real deep.

you are either "A", not understanding the purpose of this thread.

or.... "B", you are not capable of understanding the thread, so you just decided to bust righ in and give your two cents worth. Irregardless of context or relevancy.

[R12rules]

Originally posted by rob10
God gave us the nuke. Why not use it. He also told Israel in the OT to totally wipe out her enenmies!!!

Well, this is kind of off base and out of context ... but what the heck.

Rob ... a question.

Is that OT command still valid for today? Should the Jews nuke their enemies?

[rob10]

YES!! YES!! YES!! And, because we support Israel, we should do the same!! God does not change!! You are either of God or satan!! All muslims worship satan!! Therefore they are sworn enemies of the Lord God Jehovah!!

[Edited by rob10 on 07-13-2004 at 06:58 AM]

[air1]

Originally posted by R12rules

Originally posted by air1
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You deep man, real deep.

you are either "A", not understanding the purpose of this thread.

or.... "B", you are not capable of understanding the thread, so you just decided to bust righ in and give your two cents worth. Irregardless of context or relevancy.


I apologize if I offended you R12rules. I guess my remark was intended to be sarcastic. I was trying to point out the hipocrisy of the religious right. they claim to be followers of Christ and yet have no problem killing other human beings, unless they are fetuses.



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Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven; but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven. Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?’ And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.’ (NASB) Matthew 7:21-23

Jesus was a man of love and peace. Not of hate and war.

[jeffkillen]

I'm sorry looks like I stepped on someone's toe's.I thought the thread was AMERICA,RELIGION AND POLITICS.You push your opinion on me I'll Push mine on you.My grandmother was told she was going straight to hell because my grandfather was bedbound and had been for eight years.She couldn't go to church "even though it was only a quarter mile away,because she had not had the help that she needed to take care of my grandfather while she was gone to church.Now she was a deeply religious person and upset her a great deal!AS DID IT ME,IF SHE WENT TO HELL FOR HER ABSENCE FROM CHURCH FOR THE HEALTH OF ANOTHER PERSON THEN I HOPE I JOIN HER.Don't push your religion on other people it only shows your own insecurities.

[R12rules]

My ...... THAT went well............



There is always someone around with a few extra words left over from a sermon they listened to as a child.
So they go sharing from that past memory.

Telling a woman she is hell bound due to her not attending church services is cruel indeed.

There is more to every story, I am sure. But I dont want to go down that road.
And trust me, you dont want to follow anyone into hell!


Who gets into Heaven isnt based upon church attendance. It is simply based upon relationship with the Creator God.
If someone has an active living relationship with Jesus, the Messiah, then they are going to Heaven.
If someone is just religious, and does not also have an active living relationship with Jesus .... THE Jesus .... then they are bound for Hell also.


As far as shoving anythig down anyone's throat .... just watch a commercial or two on the boob tube and THEN gather up some nerve to speak to me about invading someone else's privacy and shoving stuff down someone else's throat!!!
I come to you cloathed and in my right mind.
What comes into your home, if you have a tv, is unclothed!
It is out of it's right mind! And it has very little relevance to your real or even imaginary needs!
And it is vulgar in many cases.
And it is against your views on life, the world and how you got here on this Earth!
And it came un-invited! And you are paying good moey just to be insulted, infected and anesthtised by it each and every month!

And when is the last time you complained to your cable company about invading your privacy? Huh?
Yet you have the audasity to come here and act like someone has offended you agressively!
What a lie.

I feel sorry for you buddy. Your more than just a little bit mixed up. Your "dupont mixed up"!!! You dont have a clue what truth from fiction is.

So dont come across at me like I was in some small way invading your world!

You came into MY thread and disrupted a good down to Earth topic.
If you have no interest here, then you are free to simply leave and dont let the door hit you on the way out!




For years I have fought the heat of the roofs.
I have endured customers who thought nothing of argueing every step of the way on a project.
I put up with co-workers who thought they knew best when they werent even ten years in the trade yet. Some not even three. Some even less than that.
Smart allecks all over the place!

I have been shocked, burned, fallen, slipped, snowed on, rained on, had my person threated by idiots, been stolen from and lied to and lied about.

And I just thought that since I believe in The Living God Who made Heaven and Earth, that maybe .... just maybe ... someone here would care to share a story or two about their true life experience with walking with God and living on the job with Jesus.


And buddy, if this dont pertain to you. Then dont take offense ... just lurk or not. Its up to you.


But unless you got experience with God in your heart ... you have nothing to post here.
And I feel sorry for you.





[Edited by R12rules on 07-18-2004 at 06:33 PM]

[R12rules]

Originally posted by jeffkillen
My grandmother was told she was going straight to hell because my grandfather was bedbound and had been for eight years.She couldn't go to church "even though it was only a quarter mile away,because she had not had the help that she needed to take care of my grandfather while she was gone to church.Now she was a deeply religious person and upset her a great deal!


Jeff .... I did some thinking about your grandmother this morning.
If she had been around my church, someone would have been there to watch over your grandfather while she slipped out once in awhile to get a break.
My sister just spent the last several years watching over her dying husband.
She needed a break from time to time otherwise she'd of gone nuts.
And it wouldnt have been from her husband, but rather from not getting out of the house and being around friends.

Everyone needs that every so often.

I am deeply grieved that your dear grandmother did not have friends who could, would, come over and take her place every so often.
Just so she could have gone to a church service or over to someone's home for a meal and conversation.


Church does not save people. I hope you know that.
And people being nice to you or being mean to you does not make a difference either.
It all hinges upon Who you are in relationship with.

It's all where your heart is. And if your grandmother's heart was stayed on Jesus, then right now she is in Heaven!

There are going to be a lot of church goer's in hell.

And there are going to be a lot of biker's in Heaven.

There are going to be thieves and dope dealers alike in Heaven.

There will be ministers and deacons in hell.


it is not your position in life that makes you a resident of Heaven. And it is not what you done wrong that send you into hell.

It is simply Whom you will trust your life to once you finally come to your sences.
I am a good person. But my goodness isnt good enough for God to prepare a place for me in Heaven.

In my past, I have done terrible acts which upset God deeply.
Yet He forgave me even before I came to my sences and retreated from doing my own thing.
He forgave me.
Imagine that!?


Any preacher standing on the front steps to his little congregation and shouting that your grandmother is going to hell cause she isnt coming to church .... well, I would wanted to have had a word or two with the man.
ALONE!!!

Why didnt he see to it that someone was sent over there to take her place?
Why didnt he have meals sent over to give the poor lady a break once in awhile?

Why didnt he simply gather some of his little flock up and walk on over there and hold a worship service right there in the living room?
And then ever so often come om back and have a Bible study?


I mean ..."church" is not a building. It is not structures and chairs and windows.

It is people. Specifically, it is the people who belong to Jesus!

A building is just a place to rondevouz.
Frankly, I like living rooms better than I like large commercial buildings.
I like couches better than I like padded chairs.
I like to meet in neighbor's homes. You get to know every one that way.
You can see where they live, how they live. You can see if they are in need or not.


I am greived your grandmother didnt get to meet regularly with her neighbors and friends and sing songs to her Lord Jesus.
But since you tell me she loved Him deeply ... then she must have belonged to Him. And since she belonged to Jesus, she was bound for Heaven, in the end.





At the first when you wrote to me, I admit I was not pleased you seem to be taking it out on me for what happened.

I dont mind reading where someone begins a thread entitled; "Venting".
I dont mind free speech.
But "slander" is a whole other issue. And from what I've read so far, you are slandering a Perfect Stranger.
One Whom you do not personally know.

I would refraim from that.
It serves no useful purpose.



Again, sorry to learn of your grandmother's plight. But glad to hear she belongs to Jesus.
I wish we all did.

[jeffkillen]

Sorry for disrupting your thread.I, in no means meant anything personal toward you or anyone else on this site.I guess I should clarify myself.My grandmother and grandfather passed away 25 years ago,all this was laid to rest until the co-worker I was refering to in my first reply to your thread was told the story of my grandmother simply replied "Where else would she be?" You sound like a very intelligent and well-read person with a deep conviction in your belief,I respect your thoughts and admire your ability to think.Some people simply can't.

[R12rules]

Jeff ... no harm done.


Some times God speaks to me after I've said or written something.
He did when I wrote to you the first time.

Your grandmother is gone, but your still alive. Your the one He is caring about right now. Cause your still here.


Jeff, I've made my decision. I belong to Him. He is my Heavenly Father.
I cannot shake Him lose nor will He leave or abandone me.

And with that relationship ... He talks to me somethings. Once in awhile, it's a voice. Sometimes it just a thought in my head.
He cares about all of His creation. And that includes you Jeff.

He knows your heart, just like He knew your grandmother's heart.
I trust she is with Him now.

[Workhorse]

Is there room for God, THE GOD!, the God of Creation to come with you on service calls and installation projects?
ALWAYS
Do you make room for His presence where you work at?
OF COURSE
Do you ask Him for help in making the day go safely and to get things done correctly?
CERTAINLY DO
Do you ask Him for help with "tough dog problems"?
DON'T YOU
Do you pray for your employer? For your supervisor? For your co-workers?
THEY NEED IT
Do you make room for Him at work?
NOT A POCKET CHRISTIAN, HE'S IN FRONT OF ME AND BESIDE ME ALL THE TIME
I believe God honors our prayer requesting Divine help in our workplace.
ME TOO!


I don't believe that God is to be used as a crisis counselor or something of the sort. Jesus walks with me daily, I don't apologize for my beliefs nor do I hold back. I say what I am supposed to say and feel good about it after I do.

I have at times brought up God to customers, don't know what brought it on, but just did (Holy Spirit speaking to me). After having a conversation with this or that person I feel good. I especially feel good when I have invited them to church and they actually show (happened a few times). I have a manager who is gay. I have talked with him about this before, about my beliefs and the way I feel about it. I explain that it is not him but the sin I hate. I tell him I pray for him daily that he may see the light. Do I shove it in his face? No. I expalin it and that is it. Conversation over unless he wants to speak of it, and he has.

I thank God that someone got in my face and told me that they were praying for me. When I first started in A/C repair an office girl told me about Christ and said she would pray for me. I shrugged it off and went on. She brought it up every morning for 3 years untill I finally said ok I will go to your church. I have not looked back since. I thank her every chance I can for being so persistent.

May God bless you and keep you!

Shane

[R12rules]

I have never entered res A/C service cause of one reason or another.
It's pretty personal going inside someone's home and fiddling with their comfort zone.

But once in awhile, I do enter a stranger's home.
And I usually like it.
I'm there to help them. I am there for a purpose. I am there to serve them. To help meet their needs.

Once in a great while I have encountered some little ol retired person who just about broke my heart. Seeing them getting ready to die and all alone, much of their time.
And yet there is a sparkle in their eyes as they speak.


It's moments like that which I remember the best.
I can pray for those dying older folks.
And .... I can help them be a little more comfortable for just a little while longer.


I have never met Jesus face to Face. Yet these older folks are about to do exactely that!
Maybe in a way, I am kinda jealous. Because they are going on before me, ahead of me. If they belong to Him.

[Workhorse]

Coolest thing happened today.

Now I don't go into a customer's home preaching, but if the opportunity opens itself up (like someone saying hello) I will share with them.

Today I went into this one man's home and repaired his a/c. We got to talking and the conversation turned to religion and God. He shared his discontent with religions and God in general. He also shared about his depression over his divorce (going through for 9 months now). One thing led to another and I was able to talk with him on how I felt about God, religions and divorce. I explained to him on how I felt going through my divorce, how I judge God and religions on a few peoples actions and words. I also shared with him that ther is much more to God than what he sees right now.

By the time I was done talking with him he asked me if I would pray for him when I said my prayers, I told him we could do one better, "let's pray right now". Right there on the spot he prayed with me and accepted Christ into his heart and life.

WHAT AN AWESOME FEELING AND RUSH!!!

God bless everyone and good night
Shane