3 phase compressor will not pump down

[sgosine577]

Installed a 3hp copland semi-hermetic 3 phase compresssor.
Wired the compressor according to schematic. Unit is dropping temperature, but Will not pump-down. Shut-off liquid valve pressure on low side will not budge. it stays at 5psi,. De-energized liquid line solenoid same effect.
high side is 220 psi. Is it possible that the compressor is wired wrong..

[mccool]

Maybe you need a depressor in your hose?
Made that mistake before:)

[R12rules]

I have personally removed ALL my hoses valve core depressors. Maybe one or two hoses still have one.

I have no use for them.
I use those brass check valves which screw onto the ends of the hoses. That way I can recover the charge from the hi side into the lo side when I am getting off a system.

A lot of guys dont bledd off from hi to lo and lose that amount of refrigerant.


(just running my posts up) :D

[Dad]

It is possible that it is overcharged and the receiver and condenser coil is full. It is also possible that your liquid pump-down valve is leaking. It is also possible that you have a combination of by-passing liquid pump-down valve and receiver valve.

If it is a rebuilt semi, then it is possible that the rebuild is no good.

I don't think the compressor is wired wrong but the contactor/control wiring maybe. Is the low pressure control accurate and set properly using gauges? When changing a compressor always change your contactor or relay especially if it is 3ph. If you changed it could you have wired it incorrectly?

Got a long way to catch 12 :)

[mccool]

I'm the same way, toss all them depressors, don't work on much that requires them. They just slow down the flow.

[basser]

No, it won't be the wiring. Like the others said check hose connections. If the unit is actually pumping down watch your amps also.

Post the model and serial number with operating suction and discharge pressures along with actual voltage and we can see if the compressor is operating properly.

[Diceman]

Is there a hot gas bypass on it?
Possible leaking solenoid?

[refer dude 2479]

Originally posted by R12rules
I have personally removed ALL my hoses valve core depressors. Maybe one or two hoses still have one.

I have no use for them.
I use those brass check valves which screw onto the ends of the hoses. That way I can recover the charge from the hi side into the lo side when I am getting off a system.

A lot of guys dont bledd off from hi to lo and lose that amount of refrigerant.


(just running my posts up) :D
I used to be like you. No use for core depressors. But I am in HVAC now, and those damn units do not come with access service valves, just schrader ports. I hate them. But I am like you. Still no depressors, I use the brass checks.

[refer dude 2479]

Definately not a compressor wiring issue. Close the suction service valve and see what she does. If it won't do a good vacumm with the suction service valve closed call the wholesale house and get another one.

[rocket]

if you want a valid answer tell us
what gas are you using
what compressor is it
what box temp is desired
what's your condensing temp

saying 5 low and 220 high doesn't mean much if gas type and conditions are unknown

[bmf]

Originally posted by R12rules
I have personally removed ALL my hoses valve core depressors. Maybe one or two hoses still have one.

I have no use for them.
I use those brass check valves which screw onto the ends of the hoses. That way I can recover the charge from the hi side into the lo side when I am getting off a system.

A lot of guys dont bledd off from hi to lo and lose that amount of refrigerant.


(just running my posts up) :D

i do this also :D but i still have my depressers in

[wannafreeze]

Originally posted by refer dude 2479
. But I am in HVAC now, [/B]

refer dude 2479,why are you an HVAC guy after 25 y. of refrigeration.I am curious because I read somewhere that a jouney of thousand miles starts with a single step.And I am more into ref.Did your knees give in?

[refer dude 2479]

Originally posted by altan

Originally posted by refer dude 2479
. But I am in HVAC now,

refer dude 2479,why are you an HVAC guy after 25 y. of refrigeration.I am curious because I read somewhere that a jouney of thousand miles starts with a single step.And I am more into ref.Did your knees give in? [/B]

I survived a ruptured disc operation in 1991 and went another 10 years but the hours and the physical nature of refrigeration were taking their toll. Also here in the Bay Area (San Francisco) a/c guys make more per hour. Sometimes I am sorry I changed though because a/c does not challenge your mind like refrig.

[R12rules]

Originally posted by bmf

Originally posted by R12rules
I have personally removed ALL my hoses valve core depressors. Maybe one or two hoses still have one.

I have no use for them.
I use those brass check valves which screw onto the ends of the hoses. That way I can recover the charge from the hi side into the lo side when I am getting off a system.

A lot of guys dont bledd off from hi to lo and lose that amount of refrigerant.


(just running my posts up) :D

i do this also :D but i still have my depressers in

I ran a test on passing gas.

First I passed gas into a system with the cores and then without the cores.

Guess what?
The cores slow the gas down going thru the charging hoses!
Well duh! :p

So now, I carry a pair of those $40 brass valve core removal tools and my hoses dont no mo have those valve core depressors in the ends!
In place of the built in depressors, I use those brass accessory valve core depressors with the built in check valve.
I dont lose no mo charge.
I dont burn no mo fingers.
And I dont pollute the environment thru the passing of gas.:D
Well .... except for when .... (I pass the gas)... :D

[fitter33]

Hey R-12 you working yet?

fitter33

[jemair]

If it has an oil separator the float in the separator is probably stuck open. I just replaced one with this problem only two weeks ago. At defrost pump down, compressor could only pull down to about 8 p.s.i. but as soon as I front seated compressor suction service valve there was no problem pumping down the compressor itself.

[kevin1313]

[/B][/QUOTE]
I used to be like you. No use for core depressors. But I am in HVAC now, and those damn units do not come with access service valves, just schrader ports. I hate them. But I am like you. Still no depressors, I use the brass checks. [/B][/QUOTE]

Moving up in the game ehhh????