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acmanko
06-21-2004, 10:11 PM
Hold on , it'll take awhile!!

r22jjc
06-21-2004, 10:23 PM
hey now!! hes keepen those folks up in Canada from dumping that cheap lumber on us, plans on cutting overtime costs for lots of employers,but the best thing is that hes got a whole lotta folks wanting to VOTE..

acmanko
06-21-2004, 10:25 PM
Those are good, anybody else, I mean surely 4 years have not been for naught.

bootlen
06-21-2004, 11:57 PM
:D :D :D

James 3528
06-22-2004, 12:21 AM
It may take as long as it does getting the site supporter money to Canada.

acmanko
06-22-2004, 07:32 AM
You are starting to sound like a broken record, but thats good, it favors your leader.

James 3528
06-22-2004, 08:04 AM
And you a welfare recipeant

motorboy1
06-24-2004, 03:25 AM
I knew it wouldn't take long for this thread to tank. None of them shrub supporters can think of ANY of the shrubs accomplishment. Ha!

Bush and Co. What a bunch of idiots!

James 3528
06-24-2004, 03:29 AM
I was waiting for you and Mankow to cough up some money

i_got_ideas
06-24-2004, 05:13 AM
Most of my friends aren't real active in the polical scene though I am. I have been doing a lot of canvasing of the area, getting a feel for things. Most are republicans though they will be voting democrat this November. The ones that have always been on the fence are voting democrat too. I have also found that a lot aren't totally sold on John Kerry yet so they aren't nessacarily voting democatic to get Kerry in but to get Bush out rather. Who cares really, either way it's music to my ears.

Yeah, I like the wood from Canada thing. I remeber when you could get a sheet of 1/2" plywood for $13.00, but since we sent all of our wood over to Iraq it's running $23.50....yep, that's good for the economy :rolleyes: .

That's fine about the overtime pay though, when I get my 40 hours in, I'll just walk out......no, really, we already asured our guys that Bush can dump the overtime all he wants, the extra pay will always be there for them. Imagine laying in a hospital bed bleeding to death and the nurse says, "well, see ya later, I gotta go or I'll have over 40 hours this week." :eek:

One thing Bush has accomplished, we are making enemies faster than we can kill them. I've never seen the world opinion of America be so bad. Worst part, yes, our current administration lends truth to the world's feeling toward us.


Me and my wife had a chance to meet John Kerry and his, I must say "different" wife. But, he is a very nice, down to Earth guy that relates to real people, much like Clinton did. I will be seeing him again in September at the Harkin Steak Fry and hopefully I will be shaking the hand of his running-mate as well.
One thing's for sure, if Bush wanted his one term stay at the White House to be remembered, he has succeeded, though it's not likely the legacy he had in mind. He has also succeeded in uniting the Democratic party like never before. Thank you Mr. Bush :D .

James 3528
06-24-2004, 07:35 AM
If you want to unite the democrats, start giving away cheese at the post office and the most laughable thing you wrote was the Kerry's being down to earth. Both live off of others peoples money but then again we are talking about democrats once more

acmanko
06-24-2004, 07:44 AM
Gee, Shurb has accomplished alot!, there has to be more.

ozone drone
06-24-2004, 09:08 AM
I heard al Qaida has put Bush's face on the Uncle Sam poster that say's "I WANT YOU" and their enlistments have increased 5 fold.

James 3528
06-24-2004, 11:44 AM
Originally posted by ozone drone
I heard al Qaida has put Bush's face on the Uncle Sam poster that say's "I WANT YOU" and their enlistments have increased 5 fold.

Close contacts with them, eh?

infwsdm
06-24-2004, 12:16 PM
Democrackheads- what an ignorant mess

ozone drone
06-24-2004, 02:00 PM
I'm voting for Bush. Even though I think he made a big mistake going into Iraq and even though I don't trust his advisors and even though I don't think he's the brightest bulb on the tree. We're going to need a leader with balls and Kerry will have his head in the polls rather than focusing on what needs done. I believe Bush will do what needs done reagardless of the polls. I believe his heart was in the right place even though his head was in a dark place. I have two sons on active duty and I wouldn't trust Kerry to lead them to the latrine.

Don't box my thinking with your labels. I read all I can on issues and make up my own mind rather than follow either party's lines. I never voted for Clinton.

rob10
06-24-2004, 07:58 PM
Originally posted by acmanko
Gee, Shurb has accomplished alot!, there has to be more. Bush has kept your sorry a$$ from being blown to hell and back!! Thats a miracle by itself!!

acmanko
06-24-2004, 08:15 PM
This was to be a positive thread, do we not have any positives.

rob10
06-24-2004, 08:35 PM
Guess you consider your existance a negative thing??

bootlen
06-24-2004, 08:39 PM
Okay, ac, you got us. We're busted. There are so many good things W has done and we're all a bunch of lazy slobs and won't go to the trouble to type them all out.

bigtime
06-24-2004, 08:44 PM
One thing Bush has accomplished, we are making enemies faster than we can kill them.




IGI, you have stated what I have thought all along. And some idiots think the answer to this problem is to use more powerful weapons?

Muslim, Christian, Atheist, Whatever. If you treat people like ****, they don't like you. Do it a little longer, they hate you. We try to make things more complicated than they really are.

bootlen
06-24-2004, 08:54 PM
Originally posted by bigtime


One thing Bush has accomplished, we are making enemies faster than we can kill them.




IGI, you have stated what I have thought all along. And some idiots think the answer to this problem is to use more powerful weapons?

Muslim, Christian, Atheist, Whatever. If you treat people like ****, they don't like you. Do it a little longer, they hate you. We try to make things more complicated than they really are.

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Yeah, you're right. We really treated those guys who flew into the towers poorly. Heck, it even killed'em.

bigtime
06-24-2004, 09:00 PM
Bootlen, you are obviously a smart guy. How many of the people killed in the Iraq war had anything to do with 9-11? Please give me a percentage.

bootlen
06-24-2004, 09:05 PM
Originally posted by bigtime
Bootlen, you are obviously a smart guy. How many of the people killed in the Iraq war had anything to do with 9-11? Please give me a percentage.

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I'm not that smart.

bigtime
06-24-2004, 09:07 PM
I guess you are smarter than I thought. Peace.

bootlen
06-24-2004, 09:12 PM
Bigtime, query me this. How many of the 3,000 Americans killed on Sep. 11 had anything to do with the problems of the Arabs who are represented by the terrorists?

bigtime
06-24-2004, 09:14 PM
None.

bootlen
06-24-2004, 09:22 PM
Originally posted by bigtime
None.

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Peace.

acmanko
06-24-2004, 09:51 PM
I heard today the U.S. has 5% of the worlds population yet 25% of the jail population. The liberal republicans in control want to lessen jail terms for the minor criminals. Now that's good, put all the druggies out with ol Ditto Limbaugh so we can get better percentages.

joey791
06-24-2004, 10:29 PM
Well with a change in values comes different changes, I never did like Republicans but with the changes Ive been going through I want to change party affiliation, anyone know a place online where it can be done? Im getting tired of the Democrat spam in my email and to make matters worse I was sent an application for a Democratic Party Credit Card today.

James 3528
06-25-2004, 07:20 AM
It will not be that easy. We have standards. That is why Mankow is still a democrat.

acmanko
06-25-2004, 07:30 AM
Yes, standards exist, one of them is you must be willing to let others die for your beliefs, another would be untolerable views on various situations that are ok for you but a crime for others.

cehs
06-25-2004, 08:13 AM
Originally posted by acmanko
Hold on , it'll take awhile!!

It will probably take you ten times longer to recognize his accomplishments than it took for him to accomplish a tax cut.....

acmanko
06-25-2004, 08:29 AM
Tax cuts are not new, just a repeat of history,. what's wrong with you guys anyway. Here is a perfectly good venue for outlining Bush's accomplishment. So far most have been negative, can his supports not name one single positive accomplishment other than a quasi help the rich get richer tax cut.

James 3528
06-25-2004, 09:33 AM
Originally posted by acmanko
Yes, standards exist, one of them is you must be willing to let others die for your beliefs, another would be untolerable views on various situations that are ok for you but a crime for others.

I spent 12 years willing to die for others beliefs.

The only crime is that you didn't actually die while I was doing it

infwsdm
06-25-2004, 12:05 PM
Originally posted by bigtime
Bootlen, you are obviously a smart guy. How many of the people killed in the Iraq war had anything to do with 9-11? Please give me a percentage.

It has everything to do with terrorism. It doesn't matter if it were 9/11 or the USS Cole. It's terrorism

acmanko
06-25-2004, 01:17 PM
Originally posted by infwsdm

Originally posted by bigtime
Bootlen, you are obviously a smart guy. How many of the people killed in the Iraq war had anything to do with 9-11? Please give me a percentage.

It has everything to do with terrorism. It doesn't matter if it were 9/11 or the USS Cole. It's terrorism I agree 100% with that and believe its time the heat got turned up a notch

acmanko
06-25-2004, 01:19 PM
Originally posted by James 3528

Originally posted by acmanko
Yes, standards exist, one of them is you must be willing to let others die for your beliefs, another would be untolerable views on various situations that are ok for you but a crime for others.

I spent 12 years willing to die for others beliefs.

The only crime is that you didn't actually die while I was doing it And I was paying taxes,i.e. your salary, while you were there so you owe me.

acmanko
06-25-2004, 01:21 PM
and you probably take every tax deduction you can so you owe me even more.

infwsdm
06-25-2004, 01:37 PM
Originally posted by acmanko

Originally posted by infwsdm

Originally posted by bigtime
Bootlen, you are obviously a smart guy. How many of the people killed in the Iraq war had anything to do with 9-11? Please give me a percentage.

It has everything to do with terrorism. It doesn't matter if it were 9/11 or the USS Cole. It's terrorism I agree 100% with that and believe its time the heat got turned up a notch


ohh, well then I take back 'some' of the stuff I said about you;):p

acmanko
06-25-2004, 08:10 PM
Don't do that you'll hurt my feelings, as if I had any.

cehs
06-25-2004, 08:17 PM
Originally posted by acmanko
Tax cuts are not new, just a repeat of history,. what's wrong with you guys anyway. Here is a perfectly good venue for outlining Bush's accomplishment. So far most have been negative, can his supports not name one single positive accomplishment other than a quasi help the rich get richer tax cut.

I just named a VERY POSITIVE ACCOMPLISHMENT and it went over your head!

That is the example of liberal thinking.
They don't get the possitives, they dwell on the negatives.

How about freedom for the people of Iraq!
How about the best government economic figures in 19 years?
How about the military being rebuilt.
I would go on, but I doubt that any liberal will open his/her mind to the truth...

bobby7388
06-25-2004, 09:42 PM
One man's positive can be viewed as anothers negative, just depends on what you want to believe.

Tax cuts being the first positive.
The largest misconception is that if Bush cuts taxes the countrys richest will be the only recievers of the tax cuts, non-sense.
We live in a supply and demand economy, demand comes from available moneys to purchase more supply. If you are taxed at a higher rate this cuts into your available spending cash.
If companies are taxed at higher rates they will have to cut somewhere, workforce is always the first to suffer these cutbacks.
90% of the American economy is held up by small to medium sized business, with lower to average working capital they suffer the most due to higher taxes.
Tax cuts do not increase the deficit, spending does, and liberals are notorious spenders on large Social programs, the biggest being welfare. Is it fair that you as a hard working individual can't even afford healthcare yet welfare has next to free healthcare.
The post 9/11 days are unique for everyone. The largest increase in spending as of now is security, that can not be blamed on either party, but it needs to be done. Ironicly who bears the blame? Bush, Why? is he directly responsible for 9/11? No!

Second.

Like it or not Saddam was asking for problems.
He produces and stockpiles WMD.
He uses them openly.
He ignores Security counsel resoulutions, openly.
He invades other countries, openly.
He de-stabilizes the most important region in the world by his invasion.
The last one is the clue as to why something really had to be done.
Oil is the worlds liquid gold, the world economy depends on a stable flow, if he were allowed to continue the damage would be very severe.
Is the war about oil? in-directly yes, but not for Americas benifit, but for the worlds benefit. Americas oil mainly comes from South America and Canada.
Where are the the other countries who also depend on stable oil? Why don't they lend a hand to maintain a secure world market?
Now you could pick and choose statements above to try and argue your case, but all things need to be considered for a educated analysis.

Bush has the stomach to take care of what the world apparently can't. The American military will not lose this war, the American public (liberals) will.

I for one feel much safer with Bush driving than with Kerry trying.



[Edited by bobby7388 on 06-25-2004 at 09:45 PM]

bootlen
06-26-2004, 06:56 AM
Originally posted by acmanko
and you probably take every tax deduction you can so you owe me even more.

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Hey, ac, I'll bet my next paycheck you made more than me last year. By your own view of things, you paid less in taxes so YOU OWE ME!

acmanko
06-26-2004, 07:02 AM
If james will pay up, we'll let Bush's trickle down therory go to work and i'll send some cash, in the meanwhile you'll have to make do with the priceless info you garner, but you got to pay attention.

James 3528
06-26-2004, 09:09 AM
Originally posted by acmanko
If james will pay up, we'll let Bush's trickle down therory go to work and i'll send some cash, in the meanwhile you'll have to make do with the priceless info you garner, but you got to pay attention.



Are you referring to becoming a ***site supporter*** ??

You cheap ba*tard of a song bird.


Interesting the majority of the loud mouth Lefties on this and other forums ride free on the backs of others and ***** the most. Just like on the streets.

Don Sleeth
06-26-2004, 09:25 AM
Some folks were looking for you James

http://hvac-talk.com/vbb/showthread.php?threadid=54951

:D

James 3528
06-26-2004, 09:28 AM
3 of those losers are not *****site supporters***** either.

srmfsr
06-26-2004, 10:41 AM
Make that 5. Still haven't learned to count?

James 3528
06-26-2004, 11:13 AM
Oh, I can count. It's 3+2 = 5 but 2 don't count because they are retarded.

[Edited by James 3528 on 06-26-2004 at 01:08 PM]

acmanko
06-26-2004, 01:23 PM
Sometimes you just leave me speechless. Say something positive about Shrub, and we'll gauge the reaction

bobby7388
06-26-2004, 03:07 PM
Reduced taxes do work, hence the trickle down (economics) effect. No one has proven it in-effective yet.

The Soviet Union taxed themselves out of power, so did the Roman Empire.


This is and will be a accomplisment for Bush, try to prove it wrong if you can.

James 3528
06-26-2004, 03:22 PM
Originally posted by acmanko
Sometimes you just leave me speechless. Say something positive about Shrub, and we'll gauge the reaction

I'll start answering your questions when you start paying for them http://www.hvac-talk.com/vbb/helpHVAC-Talk.php

acmanko
06-26-2004, 04:20 PM
Ignore me, or ignore everybody. God might answer a preayer.

rob10
06-26-2004, 04:24 PM
Originally posted by acmanko
Ignore me, or ignore everybody. God might answer a preayer.

James 3528
06-26-2004, 04:28 PM
Jack Daniels has

rob10
06-26-2004, 04:31 PM
Dice called you a flaming faggot on another thread and you didn't respond. What's up!! :D

acmanko
06-26-2004, 07:43 PM
You are what you are

king nothing
06-30-2004, 09:19 AM
Originally posted by acmanko

Originally posted by James 3528

Originally posted by acmanko
Yes, standards exist, one of them is you must be willing to let others die for your beliefs, another would be untolerable views on various situations that are ok for you but a crime for others.

I spent 12 years willing to die for others beliefs.

The only crime is that you didn't actually die while I was doing it And I was paying taxes,i.e. your salary, while you were there so you owe me.

As a veteran I am deeply offended by your remark manko. We owe you? How much do we owe? If one of our soldier dies defending your freedom does he still owe a debt or will his family pick up the tab? Have you ever served? I can't believe you said that have you lost your f'in mind?

Seems to me, you are the one who owes the debt. One you can't repay. I don't care what you think of the administration or their policies, young men and women are putting more on the line than you can put a monetary value to. You should feel indebted to these "servants" of yours and be happy to pay their salaries, or better yet pick up a rifle and stand a post. Either way, we owe you NOTHING.

Diceman
07-01-2004, 05:15 PM
Originally posted by rob10
Dice called you a flaming faggot on another thread and you didn't respond. What's up!! :D
Actually I was seeing where he was. Since I quit comming here I wondered what was up but he ignored me, whatever.
He is too busy over here trying to make Bush look human and it is taking up all of his time:)
And I only came here now cause the 9-11 thread got moved and I was into that one. Butttttttttttttt now I think I will mainly hang out in the rest of the site.
It's hopeless over here.
As far as GW's accomplishments, I'm thinking he united the democratic party as never before and helps us pick up all the independant votes, and many will register to get his ass out.......so..........ya see........there are some good things, right?

James 3528
07-01-2004, 05:47 PM
You left here because I stitched your butt to your face.

air1
07-01-2004, 06:25 PM
Ask your self if you would sacrifice you childs life for Bush's war. I believe Bush's motivations for going to war were less than noble. He knew there were no WMDs. He new there were no connections between 9/11 and Iraq. He did know there was alot of oil there and his cronies would profit enormously from the war. And he hated Sadam for personal reasons and wanted to teach him a lesson. That lesson being, if you screw with us and we will kill you.
We now the largest deficit in history. the gap between rich and poor is increasing. 40 million uninsured. Highest gas prices in history(which is costing me more than I save with the tax cut). We are less free than we were before and we are slowly becoming a police state. Bush is a lousy public speaker and a embarrassing representative for our country. World opinion of the US is the lowest it has ever been.
I do believe the world is better off without Sadam but I believe the situation could have been handled much better by someone with better diplomatic skill.
In short, Bush has been a Failure in leadership. We need someone who can put this country on the right track. And Bush is not the one. He has demostrated that he is not qualified for the job and should be fired. On Nov 2 the country will speak. And what I hope they will say is a resounding "YOUR FIRED"!

James 3528
07-01-2004, 06:33 PM
Originally posted by air1
Ask your self if you would sacrifice you childs life for Bush's war. I believe Bush's motivations for going to war were less than noble. He knew there were no WMDs.

But there was. They are finding them. Clinton said they were there,

James 3528
07-01-2004, 06:35 PM
Originally posted by air1
He new there were no connections between 9/11 and Iraq.

That has recently been proven also that there was a operational link.

Separating one faction of Islamic terrorist is like separating Colonel Sanders from Chicken.

James 3528
07-01-2004, 06:37 PM
Why should I quote the rest of that tired worn out junk, It sounds like you are writing about Al Gore.

sodadude
07-01-2004, 08:31 PM
Originally posted by air1
Ask your self if you would sacrifice you childs life for Bush's war.

Why do you call it Bush's war? I dont remember anyone calling a war Clintons war.

air1
07-01-2004, 08:51 PM
Originally posted by sodadude

Originally posted by air1
Ask your self if you would sacrifice you childs life for Bush's war.

Why do you call it Bush's war? I dont remember anyone calling a war Clintons war.


Because he wnated this war even before he took office. It's well documented that his admin were planning an attack well before 9/11. He lied to the Country inorder to go to war. And I suspect he had ulterior motives. Such as oil profites and war proffiteering. Most of the people who put him in office are getting rich from the war while we run up massive deficits that our childern will have to pay. It certinly is not my war.
Did you know that some estimates of total Iraqis killed during both wars are 350,000 combatants and civilians? That's alot of human lives.We must be careful that we do not become that which we hate.

bobby7388
07-01-2004, 09:13 PM
Then what should we do? Bury our heads to let another attack occur on our soil?

Everybody has such strong reservations against Bush and his leadership and only attacks him with what he can't or hasen't done. Well! if you all are so damn smart how would you take care of the issues facing us at this time? diplomacy? That has got to be a joke, who are we going to be diplomatic with? Bin-Laden? Hussien?

All we ever hear from the left is how wrong Bush is, how he has really screwed up this time, isolated us from our european friends, (Laughs again).
Look what happened to Spain, attacked once and they hitail it out of there. Looks as if our friends are just scared to fight the good fight, sorta makes us believe that we are alone after all. Should we just leave well enough alone and hope and pray that we are going to be safe? Do you really think that by not doing anything we are doing everything?

Well here is your chance you leftist, give us your insight in how to fight this. And isolation will not work so don't try that argument.

air1
07-01-2004, 10:00 PM
Originally posted by bobby7388
Then what should we do? Bury our heads to let another attack occur on our soil?


Are you implying that Iraq attacked us? If you believe that then you are the one with your head in the sand.
It is my belief that people who support the war in Iraq base on 9/11 fail to see the difference between Al Qaeda and Iraq. They seem to group all Arabs together. This seems to me to be a racist perspective.
You need to ask yourself why you feel the way you do. Might it be that you just hate Arabs and Muslims?

James 3528
07-01-2004, 10:38 PM
Originally posted by air1

Originally posted by bobby7388
Then what should we do? Bury our heads to let another attack occur on our soil?


Are you implying that Iraq attacked us? If you believe that then you are the one with your head in the sand.
It is my belief that people who support the war in Iraq base on 9/11 fail to see the difference between Al Qaeda and Iraq. They seem to group all Arabs together. This seems to me to be a racist perspective.
You need to ask yourself why you feel the way you do. Might it be that you just hate Arabs and Muslims?

Like I said separating Al-quaeda terrorist and Iraqi terrorist is trying to separate white from rice. http://www.ehowa.com/show/media.html?image=iraqiwithrpg.wmv
The virgin reward and Islamofascist stretches across the Arab borders. If you want to talk about racism. Let me know. It's a slam dunk starting with their religion and how they feel about non Muslims. Really a far stretch on your part plaing the racism card

air1
07-01-2004, 10:53 PM
Originally posted by James 3528

Originally posted by air1

Originally posted by bobby7388
Then what should we do? Bury our heads to let another attack occur on our soil?


Are you implying that Iraq attacked us? If you believe that then you are the one with your head in the sand.
It is my belief that people who support the war in Iraq base on 9/11 fail to see the difference between Al Qaeda and Iraq. They seem to group all Arabs together. This seems to me to be a racist perspective.
You need to ask yourself why you feel the way you do. Might it be that you just hate Arabs and Muslims?

Like I said separating Al-quaeda terrorist and Iraqi terrorist is trying to separate white from rice. http://www.ehowa.com/show/media.html?image=iraqiwithrpg.wmv
The virgin reward and Islamofascist stretches across the Arab borders. If you want to talk about racism. Let me know. It's a slam dunk starting with their religion and how they feel about non Muslims. Really a far stretch on your part plaing the racism card
I rest my case.

bobby7388
07-01-2004, 10:53 PM
Originally posted by air1

Originally posted by bobby7388
Then what should we do? Bury our heads to let another attack occur on our soil?


Are you implying that Iraq attacked us? If you believe that then you are the one with your head in the sand.
It is my belief that people who support the war in Iraq base on 9/11 fail to see the difference between Al Qaeda and Iraq. They seem to group all Arabs together. This seems to me to be a racist perspective.
You need to ask yourself why you feel the way you do. Might it be that you just hate Arabs and Muslims?


Here we go again!!!, instead of offering up a solid solution on combating terrorist you instead attack me on assumptions only.

How would you stop Al Qaeda?

Iraq and Al Qaeda may not be linked, but Hussein and terrorism are. If you believe that Hussien was/or is just a innocent player caught up in the game then you need to re-visit the history books.
Hussien invades other countries.
Hussien ignores UN resolutions, with force.
Hussien openly gases people with banned weapons.
Hussien openly launches missiles at other Muslim countries.
Hussien was sitting on problay the 2nd largest oil reserve.
Hussien is nuts.
Need I go on?


I eagerly await your overly educated reply.

[Edited by bobby7388 on 07-01-2004 at 10:57 PM]

James 3528
07-02-2004, 12:11 AM
Originally posted by air1

Originally posted by James 3528

Originally posted by air1

Originally posted by bobby7388
Then what should we do? Bury our heads to let another attack occur on our soil?


Are you implying that Iraq attacked us? If you believe that then you are the one with your head in the sand.
It is my belief that people who support the war in Iraq base on 9/11 fail to see the difference between Al Qaeda and Iraq. They seem to group all Arabs together. This seems to me to be a racist perspective.
You need to ask yourself why you feel the way you do. Might it be that you just hate Arabs and Muslims?

Like I said separating Al-quaeda terrorist and Iraqi terrorist is trying to separate white from rice. http://www.ehowa.com/show/media.html?image=iraqiwithrpg.wmv
The virgin reward and Islamofascist stretches across the Arab borders. If you want to talk about racism. Let me know. It's a slam dunk starting with their religion and how they feel about non Muslims. Really a far stretch on your part plaing the racism card
I rest my case.

You never had one. In fact you are shy of a six pac

bootlen
07-02-2004, 12:14 AM
Originally posted by bobby7388
Then what should we do? Bury our heads to let another attack occur on our soil?

Everybody has such strong reservations against Bush and his leadership and only attacks him with what he can't or hasen't done. Well! if you all are so damn smart how would you take care of the issues facing us at this time? diplomacy? That has got to be a joke, who are we going to be diplomatic with? Bin-Laden? Hussien?

All we ever hear from the left is how wrong Bush is, how he has really screwed up this time, isolated us from our european friends, (Laughs again).
Look what happened to Spain, attacked once and they hitail it out of there. Looks as if our friends are just scared to fight the good fight, sorta makes us believe that we are alone after all. Should we just leave well enough alone and hope and pray that we are going to be safe? Do you really think that by not doing anything we are doing everything?

Well here is your chance you leftist, give us your insight in how to fight this. And isolation will not work so don't try that argument.



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air1 and his lib cronies would solve the problem like this: offer their kids' necks up for the chopping block. Libs are more afraid of losing their own lives than the lives of their children. Gonadless bunch of scum.

sodadude
07-02-2004, 06:19 AM
I am not a great debater but this is kind of sounding like a broken record on the part of the left.

Unless I have completely lost my memory and my mind I believe there has been proof of Al Queda training in Iraq.

Let me state my definition of the War on Terror.

The War on Terror is a war against ALL TERRORISTS WHEREVER THEY MAY BE OPERATING.

They need to be eliminated or else they will become your master or your murderer. Think 9/11, Pearle, Berg, that poor Korean man.

Get a clue. Don't be so steeped in your own political ideology and hatred of Bush that your vision becomes blurred.

We ARE FIGHTING for our childrens future.

BTW, there will always be a deficit, so get off playing the we cant afford this war card. Ridiculous!!!!!!!!

toptech
07-18-2004, 09:39 PM
Originally posted by bigtime
Bootlen, you are obviously a smart guy. How many of the people killed in the Iraq war had anything to do with 9-11? Please give me a percentage.
How the hell would you know!!
Damm if we haven't learned anything since pearl harbor,
atleast we know that you can't have peace by kissing your enemies ass.
You peace pussies seem to think if we just ask permission all the time the world will be a great place. Being the worlds sole super power is like running a business. either you squash the compettion, or they'll squash you!!!
All you do is sit here in the comforts of this forum and regergitate the popular myth of the day.
The truth is if any of us really knew how dangerous the world has become their would be anarchyy in the streets.
John "F"ing Kerry is the closest thing to armaggedon since,
well you know what I mean. He's an ******* with a wife you goes around providing lip service for her sorry ass husband.
I bet his dog thinks he's a pussy too!
W2004
Bernie

toptech
07-18-2004, 10:43 PM
Originally posted by air1

Originally posted by sodadude

Originally posted by air1
Ask your self if you would sacrifice you childs life for Bush's war.

Why do you call it Bush's war? I dont remember anyone calling a war Clintons war.


Because he wnated this war even before he took office. It's well documented that his admin were planning an attack well before 9/11. He lied to the Country inorder to go to war. And I suspect he had ulterior motives. Such as oil profites and war proffiteering. Most of the people who put him in office are getting rich from the war while we run up massive deficits that our childern will have to pay. It certinly is not my war.
Did you know that some estimates of total Iraqis killed during both wars are 350,000 combatants and civilians? That's alot of human lives.We must be careful that we do not become that which we hate.
You sound like CNN,
Try changing the channel, read a book. check out some of the links from the drudge report.
Please don't go thru life thinking Cnn is a credible news source.

king nothing
07-19-2004, 11:36 AM
Originally posted by air1

Originally posted by bobby7388
Then what should we do? Bury our heads to let another attack occur on our soil?


Are you implying that Iraq attacked us? If you believe that then you are the one with your head in the sand.
It is my belief that people who support the war in Iraq base on 9/11 fail to see the difference between Al Qaeda and Iraq. They seem to group all Arabs together. This seems to me to be a racist perspective.
You need to ask yourself why you feel the way you do. Might it be that you just hate Arabs and Muslims?


Let's see, why do I feel like I do? Whether the arabs and muslims came from Afghanistan or Iraq really doesn't matter.
They came to us on 9/11. So now, we must seek them out wherever they are. I think diplomacy with Hussein is laughable. We tried diplomacy, U.N. resolutions, sanctions, etc. since the last gulf war. My "racist perspective" is not against arabs and muslims as a whole, but it gets broader with each beheading.