DDC Controls Made in the USA

[The Reaper]

Hello everyone,

Does anyone know of an open protocol control line that is manufactured in the USA? We are trying to bid a job that is getting federal funding and this is one of the requirements. Thanks in advance.

[hybridtheory]

Hello everyone,

Does anyone know of an open protocol control line that is manufactured in the USA? We are trying to bid a job that is getting federal funding and this is one of the requirements. Thanks in advance.

You need to check out American Auto-Matrix. They're BACnet, American Owned and American Made. Their factory is in Pennsylvania. I went there for training years ago and they gave us a tour of the factory floor. It was neat...got to see VAV controllers coming off a calibration bed. You're gonna want to check out their web site (www.aamatrix.com).

One thing that may be interesting here - There is an icon on the left bottom side of the web site that talks about them being a registered small business and veteran owned as well. I'm sure this may get you some kudos from Uncle Sam.

I believe KMC Controls is also made in the USA as well(www.kmccontrols.com). They're BACnet, privately owned, and alot of their stuff is manufactured out of Indiana. Not veteran owned as far as I remember. Given how tight they were in bed with Reliable Controls at one point, I can't tell you for sure if their stuff is made here in the US or in Canada.

DISCLAIMER - My company reps AAM product. Worked with KMC products in the past as well. I'd use AAM over KMC.

[kontrolphreak]

Automated Logic Corporation
Alerton
Andover
Invensys I/A
JCI

kontrol out

[dapper]

KMC is definitely made in the US.

[BACnet]

Alerton is not manufactured in the US. I believe their hardware has stickers on it saying made in Mexico.

I also think that TAC has been building products in Europe for Andover.

[KalEl]

Andover controllers are manufactured in the states.

[kontrolphreak]

BACnet,

You are correct, made in Taiwan on the pcb and assembled in Mexico on some of the vlc controllers I have and. Others made and assembled in Taiwan. The BTI-100 I have only states assembled in the USA. The T7350 is assembled in Mexico too (which is the most current (NIB) controller I have). I wondered this when I went to the Alerton website and saw ARRA predominately displayed on there home page?

I know that due to NAFTA there are ways to qualify a product from Canada (and I would presume Mexico) if certain requirements (major one being assembled in US, manufacturer will send you components for final assemble at you facility) are met. If the parent company is based in the US they might have more lenient requirements; maybe???

kontrol out

[The Reaper]

Thanks for all the replies. Have a great weekend.

[BACnet]

ARRA? Perhaps they like to go 4-wheeling and are referring to the Americans for Responsible Recreational Access. (http://www.arra-access.com)

;-)

[miller_elex]

I think due to the NAFTA contract, you can use controls manufactured in Canada. That would make Delta okay.

P.S. Be sure to add for the conduit fittings, American Fittings (mfr) are a little bit more.

Can't find Aluminum die-cast condulets made in america anymore. Go with Appleton, the 'India' printed inside the condulet is extremely small. If you want true american, it will have to be malleable iron.

Forget the Topaz line of fittings that used to be USA made, now its all China garbage.

Most of the spec is not strictly enforced, because even the GSA provides some made in China crap to their federal workers, because they don't make things like 1/2" flex 90's in America anymore.

Now remember the federal spec includes all malleable iron insulated throat flex fittings, which are three to four times as expensive as your neighborhood zinc die-cast.

Most everything is in a raceway, no free-air.

Good luck, this will be really hard to competitively bid.

BTW: We used all Belimo, and thats made in Switzerland, how did that come to be?

[kontrolphreak]

I think due to the NAFTA contract, you can use controls manufactured in Canada. That would make Delta okay.

P.S. Be sure to add for the conduit fittings, American Fittings (mfr) are a little bit more.

Can't find Aluminum die-cast condulets made in America anymore. Go with Appleton, the 'India' printed inside the condulet is extremely small. If you want true American, it will have to be malleable iron.

Forget the Topaz line of fittings that used to be USA made, now its all China garbage.

Most of the spec is not strictly enforced, because even the GSA provides some made in China crap to their federal workers, because they don't make things like 1/2" flex 90's in America anymore.

Now remember the federal spec includes all malleable iron insulated throat flex fittings, which are three to four times as expensive as your neighborhood zinc die-cast.

Most everything is in a raceway, no free-air.

Good luck, this will be really hard to competitively bid.

BTW: We used all Belimo, and thats made in Switzerland, how did that come to be?

Belimo final assembly is in the US (Reno or Danbury IIRC). Delta can be used if certain requirements are met (see George for details) including final assembly in the US. Try finding a computer that doesn't have foreign components in it. We were required to use Siemens on a project way back when due to Belimo being made overseas, isn't Siemens a German company?:confused:

kontrol out

Capitalized all the A in America for you, show some respect.

[carrier_jci_tac_tech]

Johnson controls are not Made in the USA. It all move to Mexico thanks NAFTA contract more jobs gone. They want more money for less.

[drj_controls]

Carrier's new bacnet line in made in the USA @ ALC

[bdivell]

Reliable
Delta
Automated Logic

[nikko]

Hello everyone,

Does anyone know of an open protocol control line that is manufactured in the USA? We are trying to bid a job that is getting federal funding and this is one of the requirements. Thanks in advance.

First the borders close up.
Then the requirement for travel papers by citizens and residents in instituted
Then it's deemed legal to perform citizenship checks by the local police
Then all other trading nations are excluded from anything involving public money

Hmmmm......

Reliable and Delta are made in Canada btw.