HVAC Super Pro

[Jshanl]

One of our customers is a 250 room apartment building with water source heat pumps in each room. They used to have a guy on staff that repaired these while we took care of the cooling tower,rooftops and boilers. Well this guy quit and the head engineer quit. So now the new engineer wants to also work on the room units.We have no problem with this except this guy is an expert in everything or so he thinks. He wants to change some bad reversing valves on some of the units and he wants us to use HVAC Super Pro to connect the piping to the valves. I've heard of it but we have never used it. He's the customer so we will try this product but we have no idea where to get it. We are in central/south eastern Pa and I've tried United Refrigeration,Johnstone Supply and US Supply and none of them ever heard of it. Can someone tell me where to get it? Thanks

[ARoss]

Gensco-Albina is our source.
But we've never used it.

[pdrake65]

Don't know who is selling it. I think there is a thread about it I saw last year. check out the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNi-kvRpz84

[BKS60]

You may want to check your local codes. In some areas I believe brazing/soldering is required. I may well be mistaken but it would probably be worth checking IMOA.

[jvillehvac]

I would not use this stuff. A supply house sold us some to try out. They tried it on 2 installs and both failed in about 2 or 3 months. They even made a loop out of some pipe and fittings and yes it held pressure, but when he started to flex it just a tiny bit it blew apart under pressure. So to fix the failed connection to the evap coil, we had to cut out the joints because the solder wouldn't bond.

[Airmechanical]

One of our customers is a 250 room apartment building with water source heat pumps in each room. They used to have a guy on staff that repaired these while we took care of the cooling tower,rooftops and boilers. Well this guy quit and the head engineer quit. So now the new engineer wants to also work on the room units.We have no problem with this except this guy is an expert in everything or so he thinks. He wants to change some bad reversing valves on some of the units and he wants us to use HVAC Super Pro to connect the piping to the valves. I've heard of it but we have never used it. He's the customer so we will try this product but we have no idea where to get it. We are in central/south eastern Pa and I've tried United Refrigeration,Johnstone Supply and US Supply and none of them ever heard of it. Can someone tell me where to get it? Thanks

don't know where to get that snake oil, but heres an idea

go buy some torches, nitro rig, and 15% solder



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[btuhack]

Awesome, we're now using glue. I hope you run a n2 purge.

Oh, will you offer a warranty on the glued valve?

[Jshanl]

As I said in my original post the customer is a know it all,so we are all for using this product to teach him a lesson that contrary to popular myth the customer is not always right.

[beshvac]

The problem with "know it alls" is document your usage to the Nth degree. When they fail.....YOU must have done something wrong using the product....take pictures of your prep etc.

[btuhack]

As I said in my original post the customer is a know it all,so we are all for using this product to teach him a lesson that contrary to popular myth the customer is not always right.
When his higher ups ask what's going on with all the call back activity, I'm sure he will conveniently leave out that the job was done HIS way at HIS insistence.
I will be GLUED to my computer, waiting to hear the outcome.

FMI, Would a failed joint(WSHP) leak ref into occupied space?

[beshvac]

When his higher ups ask what's going on with all the call back activity, I'm sure he will conveniently leave out that the job was done HIS way at HIS insistence.
I will be GLUED to my computer, waiting to hear the outcome.

FMI, Would a failed joint(WSHP) leak ref into occupied space?

Excellent point!

[flange]

write this clown a letter explaining that your company uses industry standard practies for brazing, outline your practices, and finally ask him to write you a procedure to use this stuff on company letterhead, and if he does, go for it! if he wont put it in writing, you shouldnt bite. you will own the problems.

[qwerty hvac]

I would not use that stuff on my worst enemies system!:angel:

[Octopus]

This crap will end up along side of all the other crap they have tried to pawn off on us.

[Randy S.]

What Flange said.

That usually fixes that kind of stuff.

[supertek65]

I am not sure exactly what this souppro is??
I was going to post a thread similar and still may?
we are doing a new construction job, colleg work
we are the subcontractor and the engineer has called out some sort of copper fittings with adhesive????
I just heard dtis yesterday!
It is mostly 4" and under..
we will see!!!!!!!!!!!!

[supertek65]

yeah!
in court!


This crap will end up along side of all the other crap they have tried to pawn off on us.

[Jshanl]

I sent a letter to this guys boss explaining to him that we do not and will not stain our integrety by doing any thing against our standard practices,and that if this was the way they now wanted repairs to be made that they should consider another contractor.His response was basically do not listen to the building engineer as his days were numbered.Apparantly this engineer gets moved through out the company and causes problems where ever he goes but they don't get rid of him.He must have dirt on someone.