Global Warming is real........

[seatonheating]

And is entirely George W. Bush's fault.


There, that ought to ruffle some feathers.....:couchhide:

[sline-dawg]

Yeah, but it started with Reagan....


That should bring in the rest.......:eek2:

[DeltaT]

You guys must not have much to do....then again, I'm replying!!!!!!!

[seatonheating]

You guys must not have much to do....then again, I'm replying!!!!!!!

Not really.

How's business?

[ga-hvac-tech]

Talk is cheap... proof is difficult...

[DeltaT]

Not really.

How's business?

It's OK. Just doing lots of little stuff. Don't see any reason for business to pick up. At Gensco today and me and two others were there.

[seatonheating]

It's OK. Just doing lots of little stuff. Don't see any reason for business to pick up. At Gensco today and me and two others were there.

Sounds about right. The counter guys sure don't seem too enthused.

How's Heidi? She was looking old the last time I was there.

[DeltaT]

Sounds about right. The counter guys sure don't seem too enthused.

How's Heidi? She was looking old the last time I was there.

I was in Everett. The only people there are three ugly old guys.

[seatonheating]

I was in Everett. The only people there are three ugly old guys.



Oh ya..grumpy Lowell and Jerry, and that other skinny dude, can't remember his name..used to be in the warehouse I think.

I'm sure Aaron was there though, he's always there.

[Joe Harper]

Well this is just fascinating. Not only do I get to look at my normal old and ugly parts guys, I have to hear about yours...THANKS!!!

[Andy Schoen]

IMHO, this is one of the more amusing political cartoons I've found of recent on this subject: http://townhall.com/cartoons/2010/02/10/3

[DeltaT]

Well this is just fascinating. Not only do I get to look at my normal old and ugly parts guys, I have to hear about yours...THANKS!!!

They are ugly because of Bush. And they didn't have the model Honeywell T8000 I wanted and that is also due to Bush.

Just got all the brakes done on my E350 and it pulls to the left...and we all know who is responsible for that!

[RoBoTeq]

And is entirely George W. Bush's fault.


There, that ought to ruffle some feathers.....:couchhide:
Here's the proof;
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http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/graphics/bush_globalwarming.jpg

[mrs reb77]

Well, that does it then. No more conversation, no more argument. If you can prove the GW link then the GWB is responsible.


Let's all go get a green beer and eat a green steak!! :D

[Hugh B]

Well, that does it then. No more conversation, no more argument. If you can prove the GW link then the GWB is responsible.


Let's all go get a green beer and eat a green steak!! :D

Not so fast there! We now need to come up with a suitable punishment. Anyone found responsible for so much evil cannot go unpunished.

[geerair]

Not so fast there! We now need to come up with a suitable punishment. Anyone found responsible for so much evil cannot go unpunished.Leave the poor man alone.

He is already the odds on favorite for the Worst President Ever title, so there is no need to pile-on, justified as it may be and add to his burdens.

[The Doctor]

It didn't take the American left's poster child any time whatsoever to outdo ole' GWB though, did it? And he's still got three years left to flush the rest of it away...

[RoBoTeq]

In all honesty, beyond our generation having been so emotionally wrought with conflicting world influences that will be shown in the future to have been false, I believe that George W Bush will be depicted as one of the politically bravest and militaristically brilliant presidents in American history.

[seatonheating]

In all honesty, beyond our generation having been so emotionally wrought with conflicting world influences that will be shown in the future to have been false, I believe that George W Bush will be depicted as one of the politically bravest and militaristically brilliant presidents in American history.

Don't forget the most treasonest!!

[classical]

Don't forget the most treasonest!!

You really are not that stupid are you; he may have done something’s wrong but treason that is an asinine statement.

[seatonheating]

You really are not that stupid are you; he may have done something’s wrong but treason that is an asinine statement.


Oh, talk crap all you want about Obama, but I make one statement about GWB and you cry.


For the record, I believe he did commit treason at least twice.

[classical]

Oh, talk crap all you want about Obama, but I make one statement about GWB and you cry.


For the record, I believe he did commit treason at least twice.

We have all had things to say about Bush he did many things we did not approve of and if you wish to criticize him fine but you better be able to back it up.

So enlighten us how you think he committed treason?

[seatonheating]

We have all had things to say about Bush he did many things we did not approve of and if you wish to criticize him fine but you better be able to back it up.

So enlighten us how you think he committed treason?


Did I really have to bring this up? Are you guys that quick to forget? Geez.

http://www.nytimes-se.com/2009/07/04/court-indicts-bush-on-high-treason-charge/

[classical]

Did I really have to bring this up? Are you guys that quick to forget? Geez.

http://www.nytimes-se.com/2009/07/04/court-indicts-bush-on-high-treason-charge/

That is the dumbest thing I have ever seen, try and be real and sensible.

Now do you really have serious accusation of treason; no I thought not.

[seatonheating]

That is the dumbest thing I have ever seen, try and be real and sensible.

Now do you really have serious accusation of treason; no I thought not.

See my last post.

[classical]

See my last post.

You realize that is a parody not an actual event!

[ga-hvac-tech]

Ya know Al, some folks will believe anything they see in a so called respectable news rag...

Back to the subject:

Any court can charge someone with anything... the proof is in the final verdict. Remember: In the USA: A man is innocent until proven guilty beyond any reasonable doubt in a court of law. If someone is so shallow minded they go thinking anyone is guilty before a court of law convicts them, they do not understand America... and probably do not deserve to be a citizen of this fine country.

[mrs reb77]

Alas Al, I'm not quite certain he can grasp that fact.


funny as all get out too.

::DD:

[seatonheating]

Almost had ya fooled didn't I?

[mrs reb77]

:anyone:

[glennac]

Oh, talk crap all you want about Obama, but I make one statement about GWB and you cry.


For the record, I believe he did commit treason at least twice.

What would you and the radical Democrats consider treason? Trying to uphold the Constitution. Not destroying the economy, keeping the military a viable force to fight our enemies and not a gay club, keeping illegal aliens and terrorist out of the country, improving education by granting universal vouchers to all, stopping immigration from non Western countries, stop the nomination of communists for federal judgeship's, wearing an American lapel pin, not blowing to our enemies, being born in the US, not trying to "change" the country into a communist state, trying to outlaw the communist party, kicking the commie loving UN out of the US, trying alien terrorists in military court instead of granting them the rights of citizens and appoint lawyers for them, etc, etc. Thank you, thank you very much

[seatonheating]

What would you and the radical Democrats consider treason? Trying to uphold the Constitution. Not destroying the economy, keeping the military a viable force to fight our enemies and not a gay club, keeping illegal aliens and terrorist out of the country, improving education by granting universal vouchers to all, stopping immigration from non Western countries, stop the nomination of communists for federal judgeship's, wearing an American lapel pin, not blowing to our enemies, being born in the US, not trying to "change" the country into a communist state, trying to outlaw the communist party, kicking the commie loving UN out of the US, trying alien terrorists in military court instead of granting them the rights of citizens and appoint lawyers for them, etc, etc. Thank you, thank you very much

Glenn, you lose all credibility with that one phrase.

[glennac]

Glenn, you lose all credibility with that one phrase.

Geeze, I thought I lost all credibility because I'm not a radical Democrat.:) thank you very much

[RoBoTeq]

Don't forget the most treasonest!!
Do you have anything to support your opinion of this?

[seatonheating]

Do you have anything to support your opinion of this?


Nothing to support my "opinion" because it is a fact.

[timebuilder]

And is entirely George W. Bush's fault.


There, that ought to ruffle some feathers.....:couchhide:

When I saw the name of the post, I thought it was a "fill in the blank."

And I thought the fill-in was "baloney."

[ga-hvac-tech]

Saw an Email... there is a billboard up north with a picture of Bush... and the caption says: Miss me Yet?

There was a pole... and 2/3 of the responders said yes, they missed GW Bush and wished they had not voted for BHO... Appears to me the people have spoken.

[glennac]

Nothing to support my "opinion" because it is a fact.

So now you are a God and anything you say no matter how absurd is a "fact". Must be nice just to declare anything you say is a fact. I guess that's why you support Obama so much. The fast tract to a communist state and then every thing the communist leaders say is a fact and to object means death or imprisonment like in North Korea.:eek2: Thank you very much

[RoBoTeq]

Almost had ya fooled didn't I?
No. President Bush wanted to represent himself?

Besides, we did find WFD's. We just had to get rid of the dangerous materials covertly while President W Bush allowed himself to be belittled by those who had no clue what they were talking about.

This list of weapons found in Iraq may not be what the world believed Saddam Hussein had on hand, but they certainly do qualify as weapons of mass destruction;




1.77 metric tons of enriched uranium

1,500 gallons of chemical weapons agents
17 chemical warheads containing cyclosarin (a nerve agent five times more deadly than sarin gas)
Over 1,000 radioactive materials in powdered form meant for dispersal over populated areas
Roadside bombs loaded with mustard and "conventional" sarin gas, assembled in binary chemical projectiles for maximum potency
http://www.internet-grocer.net/weapons.htm

Saddam Hussein had always maintained that he had WMDs and there was no rational reason to not believe him. The petty attacks on President W Bush and Tony Blair came only in hindsight. It's real easy for armchair players to predict the winner of a fight...after the knockout.

[classical]

Almost had ya fooled didn't I?

Not even close I am well informed and keep abreast of what is happening in the world, you may fall for hoaxes we do not.

So do you have something concrete or are you just blowing smoke like the other liberals?

[glennac]

Nothing to support my "opinion" because it is a fact.

Sounds like you are taking up the slack for the left fringe since Mike the duck left us.:nopity: Thank you very much

[RoBoTeq]

Nothing to support my "opinion" because it is a fact.
You are correct. It is a fact that that is your opinion. How many Iraqi's did Saddam Hussein kill, en masse? How many "mass" graves were found. How many countries in the world accepted that Iraq had WMDs? How many politicians voted against going into Iraq? How many Democrat leaders loudly proclaimed that Iraq had WMDs? http://home.comcast.net/~vincep312/iraqquotes.html Where did the initial information about the yellow cake for nuclear and chemical and biological weaponry come from? (hint: not President W Bush)

[geerair]

No. President Bush wanted to represent himself?

Besides, we did find WFD's. We just had to get rid of the dangerous materials covertly while President W Bush allowed himself to be belittled by those who had no clue what they were talking about.

This list of weapons found in Iraq may not be what the world believed Saddam Hussein had on hand, but they certainly do qualify as weapons of mass destruction;

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http://www.internet-grocer.net/weapons.htm

Saddam Hussein had always maintained that he had WMDs and there was no rational reason to not believe him. The petty attacks on President W Bush and Tony Blair came only in hindsight. It's real easy for armchair players to predict the winner of a fight...after the knockout.[/LEFT]Let's review:

1. 1.77 tons of enriched uranium--Low enriched uranium, not suitable for weapons, under seal and contol of the International Atomic Energy agency


2. 1,500 gallons of chemical weapons agent--manufactured in the 80s, degraded to the point that these chemicals were useless as weapons.

Chief Weapons Inspector for Iraq, David Kay, in testimony before congress stated that these chemicals were no more dangerous than household pesticides.


3. Over 1,000 radioactive materials in powdered form meant for dispersal over populated areas--medical waste from hospitals and clinics.


4. Roadside bombs loaded with mustard and conventional sarin gas assembled in binary chemical projectiles for maximum potency--these were artillery shells manufactured in the 80s. National Ground Intelligence Center Director, Col. John Chiu testified before Congress that the munitions that were found were badly corroded and no longer useable as weapons.




Jeez Boyd, this stuff was refuted by the experts years ago when the first rightwingnut giddily announced "See, there were WMD in Iraq.


Hell, even Bush himself was finally forced to admit Saddam had no WMD.


This is not only scraping the bottom of the barrel but scraping the bottom of an ancient barrel.

[RoBoTeq]

Let's review:

1. 1.77 tons of enriched uranium--Low enriched uranium, not suitable for weapons, under seal and contol of the International Atomic Energy agency


2. 1,500 gallons of chemical weapons agent--manufactured in the 80s, degraded to the point that these chemicals were useless as weapons.

Chief Weapons Inspector for Iraq, David Kay, in testimony before congress stated that these chemicals were no more dangerous than household pesticides.


3. Over 1,000 radioactive materials in powdered form meant for dispersal over populated areas--medical waste from hospitals and clinics.


4. Roadside bombs loaded with mustard and conventional sarin gas assembled in binary chemical projectiles for maximum potency--these were artillery shells manufactured in the 80s. National Ground Intelligence Center Director, Col. John Chiu testified before Congress that the munitions that were found were badly corroded and no longer useable as weapons.




Jeez Boyd, this stuff was refuted by the experts years ago when the first rightwingnut giddily announced "See, there were WMD in Iraq.


Hell, even Bush himself was finally forced to admit Saddam had no WMD.


This is not only scraping the bottom of the barrel but scraping the bottom of an ancient barrel.
It is good to know you are as much a history buff as I am. I also suppose you are right to want to play this low key as long as President W Bush is still alive and the Iraq situation is not yet stabilized....good move. I know it is difficult for you not to completely exonerate President W Bush of this issue, but you are right that we should not be praising him just yet. I need to be more patient, as you are, and let the world see what a truly great American leader and military genius President W Bush was in handling our part in making the first move to globally oppose the Islamic war that has been declared.

Once again geer, I thank you for you tact and restraining my enthusiasm, no matter how difficult it is for you to do so.:patriot:

[seatonheating]

It is good to know you are as much a history buff as I am. I also suppose you are right to want to play this low key as long as President W Bush is still alive and the Iraq situation is not yet stabilized....good move. I know it is difficult for you not to completely exonerate President W Bush of this issue, but you are right that we should not be praising him just yet. I need to be more patient, as you are, and let the world see what a truly great American leader and military genius President W Bush was in handling our part in making the first move to globally oppose the Islamic war that has been declared.

Once again geer, I thank you for you tact and restraining my enthusiasm, no matter how difficult it is for you to do so.:patriot:

Thanks Robo. I about spit half my lunch out reading that sentence I was laughing so hard.

[Joe Harper]

Blah blah blah blah, hot air blah blah, nonsense, blah blah blah.

http://mystarbucks.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/the_cat_is_pushing_a_watermelon_out_of_a_lake.jpg

[seatonheating]

http://mystarbucks.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/the_cat_is_pushing_a_watermelon_out_of_a_lake.jpg



Don't take my replies and edit them, it's against forum rules. Thanks.

[Joe Harper]

Don't take my replies and edit them, it's against forum rules. Thanks.

Who's editing?? Thats exactly what it sounds like to me... :)

[Joe Harper]

Don't take my replies and edit them, it's against forum rules. Thanks.


I just double checked. There is no rule about editing your replies. \

Conservative wins again!!

[RoBoTeq]

Don't take my replies and edit them, it's against forum rules. Thanks.
Waaaaahhh!!!!
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http://www.calm-your-screaming-baby.com/images/crying-baby.jpg

[geerair]

It is good to know you are as much a history buff as I am. I also suppose you are right to want to play this low key as long as President W Bush is still alive and the Iraq situation is not yet stabilized....good move. I know it is difficult for you not to completely exonerate President W Bush of this issue, but you are right that we should not be praising him just yet. I need to be more patient, as you are, and let the world see what a truly great American leader and military genius President W Bush was in handling our part in making the first move to globally oppose the Islamic war that has been declared. Dry your eyes, put away your tear-stained hankie. I know you feel Your beloved Mr. Bush has not received his just praise and accolades for his superb work; but be of good cheer.

As we speak, military experts and historians are close to awarding Mr. Bush the prestigious title of "Worst Military Blunder in American History" for his unsurpassed incompetence and ignorance concerning the war on terror.

If you feel Mr. Bush deserves more honor, you are in luck.

An overwhelming majority of historians recently exalted Mr. Bush with the honorific "Worst President in United States History" due in no small part to Mr. Bush's unexcelled military blunders.


So weep no more Robo, Mr. Bush's work need not wait unnecessarily for recognition.









Once again geer, I thank you for you tact and restraining my enthusiasm, no matter how difficult it is for you to do so.:patriot:You are more than welcome.

As usual I am at your service and ever-willing to correct your homework.

[geerair]

It is good to know you are as much a history buff as I am. I also suppose you are right to want to play this low key as long as President W Bush is still alive and the Iraq situation is not yet stabilized....good move. I know it is difficult for you not to completely exonerate President W Bush of this issue, but you are right that we should not be praising him just yet. I need to be more patient, as you are, and let the world see what a truly great American leader and military genius President W Bush was in handling our part in making the first move to globally oppose the Islamic war that has been declared. Dry your eyes, put away your tear-stained hankie. I know you feel Your beloved Mr. Bush has not received his just praise and accolades for his superb work; but be of good cheer.

As we speak, military experts and historians are close to awarding Mr. Bush the prestigious title of "Worst Military Blunder in American History" for his unsurpassed incompetence and ignorance concerning the war on terror.

If you feel Mr. Bush deserves more honor, you are in luck.

An overwhelming majority of historians exalted Mr. Bush with the term "failure" and some even regard Mr. Bush as the "Worst President in United States History" due in no small part to Mr. Bush's unexcelled military blunders.


So weep no more Robo, Mr. Bush's work need not wait unnecessarily for recognition.









Once again geer, I thank you for you tact and restraining my enthusiasm, no matter how difficult it is for you to do so.:patriot:You are more than welcome.

As usual I am at your service and ever-willing to correct your homework.

[royc]

As one can easily suspect, there is something fundamentally wrong with the political discourse in America. It is no longer a discussion about national priorities, destiny or what is right versus wrong. It has turned into a cacophony of nitwits espousing opinions that have little, if anything, to do with what America is, needs to do and where it is headed.

In a way, it is not leadership we are seeing on the TV. It is about who has the podium to espouse their idiot ideas. Rush Limbaugh has become very wealthy espousing the virtues of Reaganomics and the Reagan Legacy. Yes, there is a legacy but it is not the one Rush talks about so glowingly. Rush loves to promote the two Bush idiots as Reagan disciples, but adherents of any pretense of 'Reagan legacy' is the last thing the Bush family represents.

Change we can believe in? What a shallow marketing ploy, yet many idiot American voters fell for it in electing Barky.

Many Americans did not pay attention to the warning of the Arkansas newspapers in that Clinton wrecked Arkansas, and then tried to total America. Luckily, Slick likes to chase skirts more than get down to the serious business he talks about. His words are dirt and most Arkansans have known that for over 30 years.

Oliver 'Just following orders' North has done quite well, especially in sidestepping the bigger issues as to what Iran Contra was really about and has had lingering side effects to this day as the cancer it is within the American soul.

One of the biggest complaints I have about Washington DC is it does not have any institutional memory. All it has are agendas and handpicked stooges as mouthpieces for those agendas. These media moguls can pick the sleaziest butthead they can find and with a big paycheck and lots of air time turn them into an American Icon that stinks to High Heaven. In the absence of that memory, they keep making the same mistakes over and over again and the hole just keeps getting deeper for America.

As a psychologist would say, they fail to profit from experience and are therefore quite stupid and insane.

Bill O'Really is one of the Reaganites and specializes in putting down anyone daring to come forth with a better idea. Sean Hannity has his head up his ass so far I think the brain damage is now permanent. Even Neal Cavuto and Maria "Buttaroma" Bartiromo get on the boob tube and shamelessly tout stocks that are three-days dead and stinking up the market, hoping they can lure suckers back into the net worth killing-field of Wall Street.

Glenn Beck provides great information and commentary at times and then backtracks like the character Arthur Beale in the movie 'Network' after he was informed by the PTB that he had 'messed with the natural order of things' for Corporate America.

I can speak firsthand on these matters for several reasons. In addition to heading a design-build company during the Reagan years I was also working with Prudential Bache Securities in dealing with the record high US interest rates. Secondly, once I converted from being a Conservative Southern Democrat to Republican, the RNC was begging me to run against Clinton for Governor of Arkansas. They begged me to run against him in 1984 and again in 1986 before Arkansas made the governor terms 4-years each rather than two.

My office was in Washington DC for 7 years. Few Americans can make that claim and see the inside as I did.

I had to smile recently reading Joe Bageant's latest piece "Taking Tea with the Lizards".

http://www.joebageant.com/joe/2010/01/taking-tea-with-the-lizards.html#more

I agreed with every word he wrote, with one exception. "Joe, in Washington DC they are referred to as Lounge Lizards because that is what they are." They just love their photo ops and power drinks and power meals basking in their Power Lounges, at our expense. DC does indeed stand for District of Criminals and it is littered with cold-blooded reptiles that like hot lights. Some are just sleazy, slithery and slimy, while others are venomous.

I have never met more despicable, shallow, worthless, self-inflated as to their importance people in my life than I did in Washington DC. They are literally eaten up with the dumbass and punch-drunk power as to their importance to the rest of the world or even to Americans. One has to think about the absurdity of these idiots in DC holding themselves up to the world as the example to follow to truly understand how screwed this planet is with them at the helm.

One of my closest friends in RNC headquarters was William J "Mr. Mac" McManus. He died in 1999 at the age of 99 and knew Washington DC like the back of his hand. He aptly described what the real Washington DC is like.

"It operates on the Three 'P's", power, pelf and pussy and where one stands in the pecking order in this town depends on how they arrange those three 'P's." I watched closely for 7 years and he was absolutely correct. I have seen nothing come out of DC since 1996 to make me change my position or even think about changing it.

I have spent a lot more time in the political trenches and in NYC and DC than most Americans.

For older readers, ask the question (and for younger readers pay attention and get an education): Why did Iran refuse to release the US embassy prisoners they had taken in 1979 and waited until Reagan was sworn in? The answer is quite simple in that the CIA wanted Reagan in office and their hand-picked moron CIA-legacy nitwit George H W Bush sitting as Vice President. To get the backing from the Powers-that-be, Reagan had to put Bush into a position of power. We can thank the CIA for that, or more appropriately resent the Hell out of them for doing that.

There was the Iran Contra offering on the table and Carter did not stop to think about how a US President can whore himself out in the 'proper way'. We have seen that whoreing-out-thing clearly with GHWB, Clinton, Village Idiot Bush and now Barky Obama. Reagan whored himself out, too, and lost the control of the Oval Office the day he did. After that, he was an advertising spokesman, not a President of a great nation.

This is the same Bush family that was financing the Hitler Nazi regime while 'trading with the enemy', crashed the US economy in 1989-1991, again in 2001-2008, and still to this day prove to the world that they are complete liars, thugs, nitwits and elitist morons. That Clinton could beat Bush with "It's the Economy, Stupid!" was one of the darkest moments of American Presidential history, but it goes much deeper than that.

Iran Contra was run through Arkansas, hidden on the books of an Arkansas agency named Arkansas Development Finance Authority, or "ADFA". I turned down the chance to be the President of ADFA when I looked at their books and how they were concealing Iran Contra. Slick Willie Clinton had the goods to blackmail both Reagan and Bush, but it goes even deeper. Slick Hillary Clinton was riding shotgun over at the Rose Law Firm and handling most of the ADFA legal work. Get it? Yeah, hide behind attorney - client privilege, even when engaged in criminal activity that is violation of both US law and International Law.

Were there really Communists in Honduras that threatened the very survival of the US? No, there were people there rejecting American hegemony over their land, government, economy, just so the US could be kingpins in bananas and other agricultural crops that grow quite well in tropical climates. That is where the phrase "Banana Republic" started, when locals threatened the banana kingdom of some in the US.

Most Americans think, due to media bias in reporting, that the dastardly Islamic extremists came to power in Iran and sort of pissed on America's feet. That is the media and DC version of it but they are careful to not let Americans wake up to the fact that the CIA engineered a regime change coup in 1953 and put Shah Pahlavi in power to piss on Iran's feet. He killed, tortured and maimed hundreds of thousands of Iranians, because that is exactly what the CIA and US wanted him to do. Getting the picture? You need to.

Nor do Americans seem to grasp that the US armed Saddam Hussein with deadly biological and chemical weapons so that they could kill many Iranians in the Iraq - Iran War. Saddam and his scientists did not invent that stuff, the US gave it to them and even sent Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld over to seal the deal with Saddam; Neocons as brokers for WMD. Getting the picture? If you do not, it is time you did.

Then the US wanted to point the finger about WMD at Saddam when it was convenient to do so to take the Iraqi oil and natural gas from them. Get it? Reagan and George H W Bush were already setting the stage for Desert Storm many years ahead of time. They had to wait for the Iraq - Iran War to be over first. Check the chronology, it pays to do so.

Even before Desert Storm happened, the US aided and abetted Kuwait oil theft from the southern oil fields of Iraq. That was to piss off Saddam and goad him into invading to collect the $7 billion or so in oil the Kuwaitis and US people stole from Iraq. Former US Ambassador to Iraq April Glaspie is still under a gag order so she cannot spill the beans and tell the truth about why it was so important to frame Saddam Hussein.

What is $7 billion or so in oil profits in the right pockets compared to the opportunity to go back in, slaughter over 1 million Iraqis and take all the oil. It is more fitting than Americans know that Iraq is awarding the oil contracts to just about everyone but the US and UK after the lies these two nations told the world to justify an illegal war to steal oil.

The US has parked in Iraq and they intend that Iran is next. Remember, they are also parked in Afghanistan on the other side of Iran, too. Get it? About time you did because this has been going on since 1953 regarding Iran. The year 1979 is when the Iranians made it clear they had had enough of the US and UK.

I have met many Iraqis in Europe and all of them had a better life under Saddam Hussein before the US and UK showed up with their lies and agendas. Makes an intelligent person ask the right question: 'the terrorists are exactly whom?'

Just as that bogus 'Desert Shield' and 'Desert Storm' were being fabricated by the first Bush Administration, US Special Forces were posing as Kuwait Navy personnel and firing on both Iraq and Iran to see if the US could kill two birds with one stone. Get it? You need to; it is all about oil, gas and US - UK hegemony in energy.

They lost years ago. They lost when they dreamed up 9-11 as the excuse to attack Afghanistan to take over the pipeline right-of-way.

Why did Iran throw out Shah Pahlavi in 1979? Well, it has to do with Iranian oil and natural gas, just like it did in 1953 when the CIA ousted their leader because he nationalized the oil and gas and kicked out the US and UK oil companies. Getting the picture? If not, it is time you did. There is potentially a full-blown nuclear war on the near horizon. The Iranians are intent that all Iran oil and natural gas is rightfully theirs, for their economy, their citizens, not a bunch of greedy Ivory Tower whores and policy-wonk nitwits in London and DC.

Saddam Hussein was building a European-style nation by making sure Iraqis would benefit from having control of Iraq oil and natural gas. That was their only sin against America, but then they did not kneel properly to Israel hegemony and demands.

Israeli Neocon Edward Luttwak spilled the beans even before Desert Storm happened. This is from one of my email updates in December 2005, 'Enemies Within our Gates":

Start insert -

If you refer back to the comment made by hardliner Pro-Israel Neocon Edward Luttwak as to why Saddam must be attacked (in 1991, not 2002), that Saddam was a threat to the Middle East status quo and then compare to Baker's comment regarding Germany being an enemy under "the war was actually only an economic preventive measure" the picture should become a little clearer on what I am trying to emphasize.

"Saddam is not like the Saudi Princes who spend the bulk of their lives outside of their country, and who fritter away the Kingdom's oil profits on prostitutes and bottles of champagne in Paris. No, Saddam is building railways! Creating electrical networks! Highways and other important elements of a serious State infrastructure! After eights years of war against the Iranian regime of Khomeini, he desperately needs to demobilize his Republican Guard, which incorporates so many of this technical elite, in order to rebuild the war-devastated country. These people are his technicians, his engineers. If they are put to work in the way Saddam wishes, they will rapidly make Iraq the most advanced power in the region, and we cannot allow this to happen."

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Yeah, anyone with an IQ over 100 can clearly see the perils of using a nation's oil and gas to benefit their own people, and rubbing Israel the wrong way.

Were the Carter Administration economic policies so stupid that US prime interest rates had to go to 21% and US Treasury bonds up to 14%? No, that was a feint by DC and Wall Street to launch a war of economic hegemony against Russia and even US allies. The objective was to make damned sure the world was flooded with US dollars and all oil and natural gas trading would be done in US dollars. Get it?

Carter was a niggardly (defined as stingy) spendthrift compared to Bill Clinton and Barky Obama.

Have you ever wondered what the true definition of inflation is? It is when the US government is willing to pay more for money than you are.

Think on that and remember well that Reagan was attacking Russia in any way he could.

By increasing the US interest rates up to 21%, and US Treasury bonds were readily available from 11.5% to 14%, money flooded into the US dollar and that made it easier to wage economic war against Russia and also any country the US chose to do so. It was all about imperialism, hegemony, US dominance in a unipolar world that has not been that way since 1991. This is now a multipolar world and will never be unipolar again short of all out nuclear war and the US luckily wins. Problem with that scenario is there are now multiple factions within the multipolar world that would all fire in unison at the US if push came to shove.

Due to those high interest rates, that were part of US policy to bludgeon any nation daring to get in the way of the US - UK OIL AGENDA, many Americans lost all they had. Businesses, homes, marriages failed as the US economy came to a standstill.

Why did Jimmy Carter and Zbigniew Brzezinski create Al Qaeda in 1979? The correct answer was to destabilize the Russia CIS region of Armenia, Georgia, Azerbaijan, Turkmenistan, Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan. Why? So the US could try to steal all of that oil and natural gas and control world energy supplies.

One more time, from my presentation in New York City on September 11, 2004, '9-11, Confronting the Evidence':

""September 10, 2001: "Those who control the oil routes out of Central Asia will impact all future direction and quantities of flow and the distribution of revenues from new production," wrote energy expert James Dorian in Oil & Gas Journal, published the day before the terrorist attacks.""

If you have not seen the video, watch it. The US cannot deny any of it because I was in the inside while they were planning this totally bogus Global War on Terror.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bTp9sSuzpI

Why did the Reagan Administration back the Afghans during the 1980-1988 Russia - Afghanistan War? To block the same pipeline that the US invaded on October 7, 2001 to take over and still cannot get it done.

So, if the Reagan Legacy was such a good thing we can blame the entire current fiasco that is America on Ronnie Reagan. DC is that stuck-on-stupid folks. Big Oil is who wanted the change from Carter to Reagan, then the first idiot Bush, and downhill from there.

Take a long hard look at America's decline over the past 30 years and see it for what it is - 30 years of failed leadership and wrong agendas in our national capital.

When the sins are many, expect no help when the chips are on the line. America changes course or America is going down.

Do not hope or think for even a second that either the DNC or RNC has a plan to change course. They are in too deep. It's called treason, lies and war crimes.

By Karl Schwarz

[The Doctor]

According to the insert in the article, Iraq was being built by Saddam with infrastructure.

So did the U.S. topple Saddam to then just build Iraq's infrastructure?
For what? oil?

It reeks of special interests. But what's that got to do with the phony bologna of global warming?

[RoBoTeq]

Dry your eyes, put away your tear-stained hankie. I know you feel Your beloved Mr. Bush has not received his just praise and accolades for his superb work; but be of good cheer.

As we speak, military experts and historians are close to awarding Mr. Bush the prestigious title of "Worst Military Blunder in American History" for his unsurpassed incompetence and ignorance concerning the war on terror.

If you feel Mr. Bush deserves more honor, you are in luck.

An overwhelming majority of historians recently exalted Mr. Bush with the honorific "Worst President in United States History" due in no small part to Mr. Bush's unexcelled military blunders.


So weep no more Robo, Mr. Bush's work need not wait unnecessarily for recognition.








You are more than welcome.

As usual I am at your service and ever-willing to correct your homework.
I feel much better now. Your political satire is the bestest, and always cheers me up. I just wish I could be around when President W Bush is recognized publicly for what he was, a mediocre man who under severe hardships became a great leader, never looking to increase his popularity but always doing what he felt through listening to his advisors was the best course of action for the American people. God bless George W Bush!

[seatonheating]

I feel much better now. Your political satire is the bestest, and always cheers me up. I just wish I could be around when President W Bush is recognized publicly for what he was, a mediocre man who under severe hardships became a great leader, never looking to increase his popularity but always doing what he felt through listening to his advisors was the best course of action for the American people. God bless George W Bush!


There goes my breakfast this time.

[glennac]

There goes my breakfast this time.

Perhaps you were eating a red herring.:) Thank you very much

[seatonheating]

Perhaps you were eating a red herring.:) Thank you very much


Nope, corn flakes with a little koolaid instead of milk...j/k.

[Integrity Aire]

the Obama administration makes Bush look like a genious (which he was not).

those that criticize Bush must be similarly critical of Obama since many of the key players ARE THE SAME.