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printer2
01-30-2010, 08:20 PM
See, he was doing more than just getting his whistle blown. (Can I get away with that?)


According to Alan Greenspan, Clinton was one of the most intelligent of American presidents, ranking with Reagan and Nixon.


http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/opinion/fyi/clinton-the-warrior-president-83137172.html

bootlen
01-30-2010, 08:39 PM
All Slick ever did was p*** on somebody's tulips and then run away...somebody being Somalia and Kosovo. Warrior my aching a$$.

Greenspan was an accountant...not a historian.

EarthLoop
01-30-2010, 08:42 PM
I like Bill Clinton, I like Ronald Regan and I liked Bush2 for 3 years.... I pretty much hope Air Force One slams into a mountain this time around.

k-fridge
01-30-2010, 08:51 PM
I agree that Clinton is intelligent.

I do not agree with the "warrior" stuff. With a few exceptions; presidents just get recommendations from the joint chiefs and SOD, and then make the final decisions. They do not write military strategy.

Clinton did some things very well, others very poorly. He was blessed to have presided over a time of great global economy and a very good congress in his second term. Because of that in part, he is remembered fondly.

It would be and interesting experiment if we could go back in history and let Bush 43 and Clinton switch places. I suspect their ratings would change significantly.

freddy-b
01-30-2010, 08:53 PM
See, he was doing more than just getting his whistle blown. (Can I get away with that?)



http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/opinion/fyi/clinton-the-warrior-president-83137172.html

Ya..he conquered...McDonalds, Saturday Night Live, and a ugly intern.

Put him on the dollar.

EarthLoop
01-30-2010, 09:18 PM
Ya..he conquered...McDonalds, Saturday Night Live, and a ugly intern.

Put him on the dollar.


Wicked funny !!!! :couch:

Tool-Slinger
01-30-2010, 09:48 PM
Ordering air strikes in retaliatory gestures without a coherent goal is hardly basis for the term 'warrior'.

fixacr
02-01-2010, 09:43 AM
Ordering air strikes in retaliatory gestures without a coherent goal is hardly basis for the term 'warrior'.

The equivalent of throwing rocks at an empty lot in an attempt to intimidate the neighborhood bully.

seatonheating
02-01-2010, 01:34 PM
I like Bill Clinton, I like Ronald Regan and I liked Bush2 for 3 years.... I pretty much hope Air Force One slams into a mountain this time around.


You hope our leaders crash into a mountain, blow up, and die??

You, sir, are a sick individual.

bootlen
02-01-2010, 01:49 PM
You hope our leaders crash into a mountain, blow up, and die??

You, sir, are a sick individual.

Google "hyperbole".

Gib's Son
02-01-2010, 02:11 PM
Now Now, let's be fair. He and Janet Reno managed to conquer Waco and Ruby Ridge.

seatonheating
02-01-2010, 03:05 PM
Google "hyperbole".

Ya, ya, I know what a hyperbole is. Doesn't give his comment any more merit.

bootlen
02-01-2010, 03:51 PM
Now Now, let's be fair. He and Janet Reno managed to conquer Waco and Ruby Ridge.

They can't take credit for Waco because Koresh was a wacko. Not a sane cell in his whole body.

Ruby Ridge? Anybody can snipe an unarmed woman.

Nope. Clinton thinks "warrior" is a question a Bostonian asks when he wants to know your location.

jmac00
02-01-2010, 06:31 PM
you guys are giving this any credence? IT CAME FROM ALLEN GREENSPAN for Christ sake :eek2::eek2::eek2:

He's a freaking bean counter and (as far as I'm concerned) he's the guy that put America on the road to ruin. :censored::censored::mad::mad:

daytonafan
02-01-2010, 07:38 PM
Clinton would be a breath of fresh air compared to the egotistical, immature, clueless, lying, knee jerk, bleeding heart, crybaby dickmunch that occupies the oval office right now.

Some Dude
02-01-2010, 08:15 PM
Oh he was one bad dude, really protected the public, what follow through.

U.S.S. Cole
President Bill Clinton declared, "If, as it now appears, this was an act of terrorism, it was a despicable and cowardly act. We will find out who was responsible and hold them accountable"
Not only did they know who it was, they knew where they were and they did NOTHING.
Osama should have been removed then saving thousands of lives , millions of dollars in property and the resulting quagmire we now find ourselves in.

EarthLoop
02-01-2010, 08:26 PM
You hope our leaders crash into a mountain, blow up, and die??

You, sir, are a sick individual.

If i was normal do you think I'd be on this board talking to you guys??? ::DD:

ga-hvac-tech
02-01-2010, 08:36 PM
If i was normal do you think I'd be on this board talking to you guys??? ::DD:

You nailed it Earthloop! This is the reason I lurk more now... I find more sanity when I do not argue with idiots... :oops:

bb
02-01-2010, 09:00 PM
Didn't he run off to Canada or somewhere duriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnng the Vietnam era.

Dang it, Clinton was near my keyboard.... :mad:

jmac00
02-01-2010, 09:24 PM
Didn't he run off to Canada or somewhere duriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnng the Vietnam era.

Dang it, Clinton was near my keyboard.... :mad:

Nooooo, he went to England, I believe he was at Oxford :patriot:

printer2
02-01-2010, 10:01 PM
Nooooo, he went to England, I believe he was at Oxford :patriot:

Bush went to Oxford?

jmac00
02-01-2010, 10:04 PM
Bush went to Oxford?

so did clintoon, around 1967 or 8 I believe :patriot:

jmac00
02-01-2010, 10:16 PM
Bush went to Oxford?


Upon graduation he won a Rhodes Scholarship to University College, Oxford where he studied Philosophy, Politics and Economics, though as a result of switching programs and leaving early for Yale, he did not obtain a degree there.[17][21] He developed an interest in rugby union, playing at Oxford[22] and later for the Little Rock Rugby club in Arkansas. While at Oxford he also participated in Vietnam War protests, including organizing an October 1969 Moratorium event.[16] In later life he admitted to smoking cannabis at the university, but famously claimed that he "never inhaled".[16][17]

Gib's Son
02-02-2010, 09:11 AM
They can't take credit for Waco because Koresh was a wacko. Not a sane cell in his whole body.

Ruby Ridge? Anybody can snipe an unarmed woman.

Nope. Clinton thinks "warrior" is a question a Bostonian asks when he wants to know your location.

My point had more to do with using the U.S. military against it's own citizens. (Waco) Yeah I know it was ATF but they still could have starved them out.

Some Dude
02-02-2010, 10:02 AM
Waaco was a goat f, david k walked to town every morning, it would have been simple to just pick him up.
How many atf officers died trying to climb in windows ? Just stupid, stupid, stupid, then the dike covered it up.
Had their leader been removed alot of sick people would still be in counseling right now, and alot of kids would have gotten a chance to grow up.
AGAIN CLINTON LET osama bin laden GO FREE, TO MURDER INNOCENT PEOPLE. hes a coward, in no way a warrior.
Wasnt even man enough to admit he inhaled.
Maybe if Canada had building worth flying a jet into printer wouldnt have started this failed sociology experiment of his.

RoBoTeq
02-02-2010, 10:31 AM
All Slick ever did was p*** on somebody's tulips and then run away...somebody being Somalia and Kosovo. Warrior my aching a$$.

Greenspan was an accountant...not a historian.
My sentiments exactly. There is no question that President Clinton is an intelligent man. Did he use his intellect for what was best for his country? I don't belive so.

RoBoTeq
02-02-2010, 10:33 AM
You hope our leaders crash into a mountain, blow up, and die??

You, sir, are a sick individual.
It would be a convenient solution, but only if Nancy were on board. Even better would be Michelle finding Barry and Nancy together and killing them both in one of her angry Black woman outrages.

bootlen
02-02-2010, 10:36 AM
My point had more to do with using the U.S. military against it's own citizens.

Gotta agree. But we might as well get used to this. Probably will happen again with this administration if he keeps his crap up.

geerair
02-02-2010, 10:52 AM
Yes sir!!!!!

Whining about Clinton has now entered its tenth year after he left office.

That means the statute of limitations for Bush comments has been pushed to 2020.

Unlimited Bush comments without conservlicans bleating "But he's not president anymore.*

















*Then again, conservlicans have shown themselves to be Olympic class hypocrites so the "Bush is not president" whine will probably outlive us all

RoBoTeq
02-02-2010, 10:57 AM
Yes sir!!!!!

Whining about Clinton has now entered its tenth year after he left office.

That means the statute of limitations for Bush comments has been pushed to 2020.

Unlimited Bush comments without conservlicans bleating "But he's not president anymore.*

*Then again, conservlicans have shown themselves to be Olympic class hypocrites so the "Bush is not president" whine will probably outlive us all
Hey! Have your little tizzy fit with Greenspan; he started this conversation.

I gaurantee you if someone comes out saying that President W Bush was a great orator, you won't find any conservatives defending that lie any more then leftists should not be defending the lie that President Clinton in any way behaved like a warrior. The closest President Clinton came to a warrior was when Monica dressed up as Xena.

jmac00
02-02-2010, 11:17 AM
Waaco was a goat f, david k walked to town every morning, it would have been simple to just pick him up.
How many atf officers died trying to climb in windows ? Just stupid, stupid, stupid, then the dike covered it up.
Had their leader been removed alot of sick people would still be in counseling right now, and alot of kids would have gotten a chance to grow up.
AGAIN CLINTON LET osama bin laden GO FREE, TO MURDER INNOCENT PEOPLE. hes a coward, in no way a warrior.
Wasnt even man enough to admit he inhaled.
Maybe if Canada had building worth flying a jet into printer wouldnt have started this failed sociology experiment of his.


Actually they do, in Toronto they have the CN tower. But it doesn't seem to bother Canadians in the least. In 2002 A friend of mine took his boat to Toronto and while there he blew up his outdrive. It took 6 weeks to get it fixed (at a cost of $6000 Cnd) so obviously we had to go get it, The original plan was to drive a car to Toronto and drive the boat back, I suggested we ask another friend of mine to fly us there in his plane.

By car it would take about 4 hours, by plane it would take about 30 minutes.

So upon approach to Island airport, Holtzy ( the pilot) calls Island airport tower.

Holtzy: Island airport, this Seneca 018 requesting approach instructions

Island Airport Tower (IAT): 018, this is Island airport tower, do you see the CN tower

Holtzy: affirmative

IAT: Fly directly at the tower, when you get over the middle of the harbor and turn left, you should be lined right up with the runway, you may proceed at your discretion, there are no other aircraft in the pattern

Holtzy: IAT, are you sure? you want me to fly towards a tower

IAT: Oh sorry mate, forgot your American, Yes! you may fly toward the tower, <with a little giggle in his voice> just remember to turn.

Holtzy: ok, we are on final approach, we will stop at customs thank you

IAT: 018, on approach



The guy didb't seemed real concerned with someone flying into there buildings:eek2::eek2::eek2:

ga-hvac-tech
02-02-2010, 11:19 AM
Funny how the far left only comes out when one of their (few) pet issues is present...

fascinatingly simplistic minds they display...

geerair
02-02-2010, 12:07 PM
Hey! Have your little tizzy fit with Greenspan; he started the conversation.Actually, just an observation on the continual hypocrisy of those who weep piteously that Bush is not the president but who feel perfectly justified playing the Clinton is still president game.

Simply an anthropological delight to observe the conservlicans in their natural habitat.

RoBoTeq
02-02-2010, 12:18 PM
Actually, just an observation on the continual hypocrisy of those who weep piteously that Bush is not the president but who feel perfectly justified playing the Clinton is still president game.

Simply an anthropological delight to observe the conservlicans in their natural habitat.
Who stated that Clinton is still the president? As I understand it, the presidential title remains a priveledge for all ex-presidents. That doesn't infer that anyone thinks they still have presidential powers.

Sounds more like you just wanted to say something nasty about President Bush because a president you prefered is being put down. Awwwwww.

geerair
02-02-2010, 12:19 PM
Who stated that Clinton is still the president? The same hypocritical dolts who cry that Bush is no longer the president

bootlen
02-02-2010, 12:36 PM
Yes sir!!!!!

Whining about Clinton has now entered its tenth year after he left office.

That means the statute of limitations for Bush comments has been pushed to 2020.

Unlimited Bush comments without conservlicans bleating "But he's not president anymore.*

















*Then again, conservlicans have shown themselves to be Olympic class hypocrites so the "Bush is not president" whine will probably outlive us all

Heheheeee. NOW who's button got pushed?

bootlen
02-02-2010, 12:40 PM
The same hypocritical dolts who cry that Bush is no longer the president

Lemme see.

"Warrior" "President"

"President" "Warrior"

How in the world did you get these 2 words confused? They don't look or sound alike and they are spelled differently. Did you lay off your 4th grader and don't have anyone to read for you?

Button...button...who has a button?

GEER DOES!!!!

geerair
02-02-2010, 01:14 PM
Lemme see.

"Warrior" "President"

"President" "Warrior"

How in the world did you get these 2 words confused? They don't look or sound alike and they are spelled differently. Did you lay off your 4th grader and don't have anyone to read for you?Still whining over Bush.






Button...button...who has a button?

GEER DOES!!!!Hell boy, you don't have buttons, you are automated.

RoBoTeq
02-02-2010, 01:51 PM
I see geer's comprehension level is still below subpar and he seems to be in full PMS mode.

bootlen
02-02-2010, 02:14 PM
I see geer's comprehension level is still below subpar and he seems to be in full PMS mode.

Yup. He's reeling in confusion and anger.

jmac00
02-02-2010, 02:20 PM
I see geer's comprehension level is still below subpar and he seems to be in full PMS mode.

on the PMS scale, that boy is at defcon 10 :patriot:

lets face facts, Wild Bill Clintoon got the ball rolling, GW Bush, didn't really help, but NObama has completely destroyed the economy and is going to demand more and more control so "he can save America" what he's actually doing is driving us deeper into debt......fast.

Even though 65% of American disapprove of how he is handling the economy, NObama is going to force his "policies" down everyones throat.


Personally I think Geer is on Section 8 welfare, seriously? why else would anyone be so happy to have a socialist in office. things can only get better for him :eek2::munching:

glennac
02-02-2010, 02:45 PM
on the PMS scale, that boy is at defcon 10 :patriot:

lets face facts, Wild Bill Clintoon got the ball rolling, GW Bush, didn't really help, but NObama has completely destroyed the economy and is going to demand more and more control so "he can save America" what he's actually doing is driving us deeper into debt......fast.

Even though 65% of American disapprove of how he is handling the economy, NObama is going to force his "policies" down everyones throat.


Personally I think Geer is on Section 8 welfare, seriously? why else would anyone be so happy to have a socialist in office. things can only get better for him :eek2::munching:

Well he could be a true believer for the socialist commie cause and dedicated to the destruction of the American Constitution and all it stands for freedom, justice and liberty for all. That is the other possibility and a good chance for that considering what all he has posted. Thank you very much.

geerair
02-02-2010, 03:13 PM
I see geer's comprehension level is still below subpar and he seems to be in full PMS mode.Ah, the usual Boyd excuse/whine.

geerair
02-02-2010, 03:16 PM
Well he could be a true believer for the socialist commie cause and dedicated to the destruction of the American Constitution and all it stands for freedom, justice and liberty for all. That is the other possibility and a good chance for that considering what all he has posted. Thank you very much.That's right. We are still trying to decide if we are going to banish you to a FEMA Camp or just put you up against the wall.

Personally, I think it would be more humane to just turn you loose in South Central.

glennac
02-02-2010, 03:28 PM
That's right. We are still trying to decide if we are going to banish you to a FEMA Camp or just put you up against the wall.

Personally, I think it would be more humane to just turn you loose in South Central.

Knew you had a heart geer. I think it would be funnier if you were put out there and see if you could talk your way out with your fellow "Obama" supporters.:) Thank you very much

geerair
02-02-2010, 03:38 PM
Knew you had a heart geer. I think it would be funnier if you were put out there and see if you could talk your way out with your fellow "Obama" supporters.:) Thank you very muchI'm an old, white racist, I wouldn't last five minutes there.

glennac
02-02-2010, 04:01 PM
I'm an old, white racist, I wouldn't last five minutes there.

Don't tell me you made some rallies in your younger days?:) Thank you very much.

RoBoTeq
02-02-2010, 08:08 PM
If geer is a guy, he's the kind of guy who would get a sex change just so he could hate men but still not have to have anything to do with women. Or, he could be South Park's Mr/Ms Garrison.

geerair
02-03-2010, 12:48 AM
Don't tell me you made some rallies in your younger days?:) Thank you very much.Just an old dinosaur like you who needs to die off before the world can truly be colorblind.

RoBoTeq
02-03-2010, 07:44 AM
Just an old dinosaur like you who needs to die off before the world can truly be colorblind.
I just realized why geer makes absolutely no sense, he or she or maybe both and then some, has a multiple personality. In one post they is chastizing someone else for not being colorblind and in a very recent previous post they is saying this;
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Knew you had a heart geer. I think it would be funnier if you were put out there and see if you could talk your way out with your fellow "Obama" supporters.:) Thank you very much

I'm an old, white racist, I wouldn't last five minutes there.
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