Obama Is Not A Democrat!

[Hugh B]

I am reaching the conclusion that President Obama is not a democrat. He is something else far different. He is a liberal progressive, a socialist or something of that sort but not a democrat.

Even the democrats in congress don't actually back him. They realize that he is not actually one of them although he ran as one of them.

Am I thinking correctly on this?

[glennac]

I am reaching the conclusion that President Obama is not a democrat. He is something else far different. He is a liberal progressive, a socialist or something of that sort but not a democrat.

Even the democrats in congress don't actually back him. They realize that he is not actually one of them although he ran as one of them.

Am I thinking correctly on this?

Hugh you have to high of an opinion of the dems nowadays. Most of the leaders in the Democratic Party are socialists maybe not communist but a few are like I think Obama is.

Ever since the 60's the Democratic Party has been moving to the left every election and now the leadership is 100% socialist from what I can see and Obama is the one who is the further-est to the left. He had the most radical voting record while in Congress.

They are out to destroy the US on all fronts. Go soft on terrorists, destroy our industry, promote off shore oil exploration in Brazil but not here, destroy our capability to generate power by increased regulations, and on and on just every thing against America you can think of they are for. Thank you very much

[Hugh B]

Hugh you have to high of an opinion of the dems nowadays. Most of the leaders in the Democratic Party are socialists maybe not communist but a few are like I think Obama is.

Ever since the 60's the Democratic Party has been moving to the left every election and now the leadership is 100% socialist from what I can see and Obama is the one who is the further-est to the left. He had the most radical voting record while in Congress.

They are out to destroy the US on all fronts. Go soft on terrorists, destroy our industry, promote off shore oil exploration in Brazil but not here, destroy our capability to generate power by increased regulations, and on and on just every thing against America you can think of they are for. Thank you very much


Glen, I agree with you about the democrats but I tend to think Obama is something else yet. I think as time goes on his real ideology will become more obvious. He is a Sol Alinski guy ya know. And, that is something different than a liberal democrat.

[Tool-Slinger]

I am reaching the conclusion that President Obama is not a democrat. He is something else far different. He is a liberal progressive, a socialist or something of that sort but not a democrat.

Even the democrats in congress don't actually back him. They realize that he is not actually one of them although he ran as one of them.

Am I thinking correctly on this?
I think modern democrats are indeed socialists. Why the problem with obama? He was a admitted socialist in the campaign, not using that word but the perfect definition.

The other demorats back him, do not doubt it,... they just are a tad gun-shy with recent polling data.

[maxpower]

He would have been a good assistant to hitler. Just wrong color.

[Roscoe]

I am reaching the conclusion that President Obama is not a democrat. He is something else far different. He is a liberal progressive, a socialist or something of that sort but not a democrat.

Even the democrats in congress don't actually back him. They realize that he is not actually one of them although he ran as one of them.

Am I thinking correctly on this?

Yes, the Democratic Party has been taken over by the Progressives.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2oOoCdFblc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLULJ_QFIFM

[Hugh B]

Yeah, but even my republican party has become socialist and left me. The republican party has moved so far left that JFK would fit in the republican party if he were here today.

[Roscoe]

Yeah, but even my republican party has become socialist and left me. The republican party has moved so far left that JFK would fit in the republican party if he were here today.

This is true some of the Republicans are pandering to the left for votes, like McCain did

[glennac]

Yeah, but even my republican party has become socialist and left me. The republican party has moved so far left that JFK would fit in the republican party if he were here today.

Heck he could be a conservative Republican because he gave us a tax cut and did not increase spending unlike LBJ. Thank you very much

[bootlen]

BO is left of Karl Marx. May not be a name for that.

[Joe Harper]

Its called "antichrist"

[the mojo]

Its called "antichrist"

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/statist

Nope and I'll give one guess where the empty suit gets his "Grand Ideas".

Have you figured out what the Czars are all about.

Just punch up John (Chief of Staff) for Clinton Podestra and the mighty CAP.


Then follow the money $$$$$.....

[wgrr]

I am reaching the conclusion that President Obama is not a democrat. He is something else far different. He is a liberal progressive, a socialist or something of that sort but not a democrat.

Even the democrats in congress don't actually back him. They realize that he is not actually one of them although he ran as one of them.

Am I thinking correctly on this?

It is possible to be a Democrat, Liberal, and be progressive at the same time. Kind of like Bush running as a Republican and governing as a Neo-Conservative.

Obama ran as a progressive. This is why he got the nomination instead of Clinton. People wanted a change. What the people got was a President that surrounded himself with Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, and Bush II people. Obama is not governing as a Progressive. A true Progressive would see Obama as a far right Liberal.

As far as socialism goes I would like anyone here to point out anything Obama or his administration has done or proposed that is truly socialism. The only purely socialistic program I know of in this country is the VA medical system. Government owns all the property, pays all the doctors, nurses, contractors, and staff. In other words it is 100% owned and run by the USA.

I know there is a strong desire here to label Obama as a communist, fascist, socialist, terrorist, Bolshevik, who is selfish and self centered. The truth is, is that we now have an intelligent, well educated articulate, Millato in the Whitehouse and that scares the crap out of Republicans. They have a reason to be scared. I just watched the full, unedited, tape of Obama tearing up (by their own admission) Republican talking points at the House Republicans retreat in Baltimore. Obama handled the Q&A without a teleprompter. Yes, he did stutter some. He gave straight forward answers to questions designed to be used as Fox News talking points against him later. Fox News will have to spin this one so hard the outer layers of bull will come off. Go watch the tape. It is very entertaining.

[k-fridge]

Its called "antichrist"

Nah, the Antichrist won't need a teleprompter to say his own name.

[wgrr]

He would have been a good assistant to hitler. Just wrong color.

Wow, are you trying to dazzle people here with that brilliant comment. ( Obama = Hitler) I have read some pretty disparaging comments about Obama here, but to equate him, or anyone for that matter, to Hitler is reprehensible.

You know maxpower, the Tea Party movement does have some merit, but it is totally discredited by the few who shout out at meetings, Hitler, Nazi or any other demeaning one word comment they can think of.

Do you really think that Obama wants to control the world and exterminate an entire race of humans by putting them in concentration camps were he worked them to death, let them freeze to death, gassed them with Zyclon B, and then burned the bodies after digging the gold out of their teeth and cutting off their hair to make clothing for his troops. Pray to God there will never be another Hitler. I hear the Nazi party is alive and well in this country. Maybe it is just wishful thinking.

[glennac]

Wow, are you trying to dazzle people here with that brilliant comment. ( Obama = Hitler) I have read some pretty disparaging comments about Obama here, but to equate him, or anyone for that matter, to Hitler is reprehensible.

You know maxpower, the Tea Party movement does have some merit, but it is totally discredited by the few who shout out at meetings, Hitler, Nazi or any other demeaning one word comment they can think of.

Do you really think that Obama wants to control the world and exterminate an entire race of humans by putting them in concentration camps were he worked them to death, let them freeze to death, gassed them with Zyclon B, and then burned the bodies after digging the gold out of their teeth and cutting off their hair to make clothing for his troops. Pray to God there will never be another Hitler. I hear the Nazi party is alive and well in this country. Maybe it is just wishful thinking.

No and neither did Hitler to everything you said but Obama does want a communist world in my opinion and maybe you do to. Thank you very much.

[smittyii]

Yeah, but even my republican party has become socialist and left me. The republican party has moved so far left that JFK would fit in the republican party if he were here today.

if you go down the list of demo presidents in the last 100 years you may find that jfk was the ONLY one who wasn't a statist (progressive). he was a fiscal conservative like his father joe kennedy. he created no new government, except things like the peace corp, which was a cold war propaganda program. ike before him and johnson after couldn't wait to create cabinet level agencies. the statist image of the kennedy's didn't come about till teddy was in the senate and got full blown with bobby.:patriot:

[Tool-Slinger]

Wow, are you trying to dazzle people here with that brilliant comment. ( Obama = Hitler) I have read some pretty disparaging comments about Obama here, but to equate him, or anyone for that matter, to Hitler is reprehensible.

You know maxpower, the Tea Party movement does have some merit, but it is totally discredited by the few who shout out at meetings, Hitler, Nazi or any other demeaning one word comment they can think of.

Do you really think that Obama wants to control the world and exterminate an entire race of humans by putting them in concentration camps were he worked them to death, let them freeze to death, gassed them with Zyclon B, and then burned the bodies after digging the gold out of their teeth and cutting off their hair to make clothing for his troops. Pray to God there will never be another Hitler. I hear the Nazi party is alive and well in this country. Maybe it is just wishful thinking.
Smart arse remarks are an entertaining spice to this forum.

[Tool-Slinger]

It is possible to be a Democrat, Liberal, and be progressive at the same time. Kind of like Bush running as a Republican and governing as a Neo-Conservative.

Obama ran as a progressive. This is why he got the nomination instead of Clinton. People wanted a change. What the people got was a President that surrounded himself with Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, and Bush II people. Obama is not governing as a Progressive. A true Progressive would see Obama as a far right Liberal.

As far as socialism goes I would like anyone here to point out anything Obama or his administration has done or proposed that is truly socialism. The only purely socialistic program I know of in this country is the VA medical system. Government owns all the property, pays all the doctors, nurses, contractors, and staff. In other words it is 100% owned and run by the USA.

I know there is a strong desire here to label Obama as a communist, fascist, socialist, terrorist, Bolshevik, who is selfish and self centered. The truth is, is that we now have an intelligent, well educated articulate, Millato in the Whitehouse and that scares the crap out of Republicans. They have a reason to be scared. I just watched the full, unedited, tape of Obama tearing up (by their own admission) Republican talking points at the House Republicans retreat in Baltimore. Obama handled the Q&A without a teleprompter. Yes, he did stutter some. He gave straight forward answers to questions designed to be used as Fox News talking points against him later. Fox News will have to spin this one so hard the outer layers of bull will come off. Go watch the tape. It is very entertaining.
What is the difference in a progressive and socialist?

[smittyii]

It is possible to be a Democrat, Liberal, and be progressive at the same time. Kind of like Bush running as a Republican and governing as a Neo-Conservative.

Obama ran as a progressive. This is why he got the nomination instead of Clinton. People wanted a change. What the people got was a President that surrounded himself with Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, and Bush II people. Obama is not governing as a Progressive. A true Progressive would see Obama as a far right Liberal.

As far as socialism goes I would like anyone here to point out anything Obama or his administration has done or proposed that is truly socialism. The only purely socialistic program I know of in this country is the VA medical system. Government owns all the property, pays all the doctors, nurses, contractors, and staff. In other words it is 100% owned and run by the USA.

I know there is a strong desire here to label Obama as a communist, fascist, socialist, terrorist, Bolshevik, who is selfish and self centered. The truth is, is that we now have an intelligent, well educated articulate, Millato in the Whitehouse and that scares the crap out of Republicans. They have a reason to be scared. I just watched the full, unedited, tape of Obama tearing up (by their own admission) Republican talking points at the House Republicans retreat in Baltimore. Obama handled the Q&A without a teleprompter. Yes, he did stutter some. He gave straight forward answers to questions designed to be used as Fox News talking points against him later. Fox News will have to spin this one so hard the outer layers of bull will come off. Go watch the tape. It is very entertaining.
there are plenty of repub statists as presidents. starting with teddy roosevelt. ripping up republicans at a retreat is not much of an accomplishment to a libertarian. he is still a statist and an old line one at that.:patriot:

[glennac]

What is the difference in a progressive and socialist?

Your to nice tool. Castro didn't come out and say he was a communist when he was fighting the Cuban Army. After he took power he hid the fact that he was a communist until he was able to consolidate his power by getting rid of his opposition. He then declared himself a commie. Obama in my opinion is not a progressive or socialist but a communist. Thank you very much.

[smittyii]

What is the difference in a progressive and socialist?

a progressive is a socialist/marxist who believes that evolution not revolution is the way to implement socialism. they believe in incremental socialism rather than rapid violent change hence "progressive". a good example would be a progressive tax like the income tax which didn't exist until woodrow wilson and the first progressive era. progressives believe the the nation must progress beyond the constitution, which restricts the power of the state. the state is the answer for a progressive no matter what the question. have you ever heard a progressive praise the founding fathers??? no and you never will.:patriot:

[Tool-Slinger]

a progressive is a socialist/marxist who believes that evolution not revolution is the way to implement socialism. they believe in incremental socialism rather than rapid violent change hence "progressive". a good example would be a progressive tax like the income tax which didn't exist until woodrow wilson and the first progressive era. progressives believe the the nation must progress beyond the constitution, which restricts the power of the state. the state is the answer for a progressive no matter what the question. have you ever heard a progressive praise the founding fathers??? no and you never will.:patriot:
Soooo it is the same end, they just want a political takeover rather than violent overthrow? I figure it is the same bunch of folks.

And Glenn, I figure commies are nothing more than socialist who have gained power.

[smittyii]

Soooo it is the same end, they just want a political takeover rather than violent overthrow? I figure it is the same bunch of folks.

And Glenn, I figure commies are nothing more than socialist who have gained power.

communists and nazis are statists who don't believe in democracy. totalitarians.:patriot:

[bootlen]

What is the difference in a progressive and socialist?

A socialist will ADMIT he's a socialist.

[Tool-Slinger]

A socialist will ADMIT he's a socialist.
BINGO! I think we have a winner here!

[EarthLoop]

He's a Islamic Marxist

Here let him tell you in his own words.

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=tCAffMSWSzY#t=28