Supreme Court ruling should help economy

[JRINJAX]

I believe that the Supreme Court ruling allowing Corporations to finance campaigns to defend themselves during the next several elections cycles should move some of the radical Liberals out of the Congress and get America back to work. Maybe the oil industry can get back to drilling domesticly.

Barney Frank has pledged to do everything possible to undermine the ruling.

The top contributors before the ruling was the Trial Lawyers and of course 70% of their money went to anti-business Democrats. Barney wants this to remain status-quo.

Maybe there is a light at the end of the tunnel if Barney the Homo does not get his way.

[bootlen]

I believe that the Supreme Court ruling allowing Corporations to finance campaigns to defend themselves during the next several elections cycles should move some of the radical Liberals out of the Congress and get America back to work. Maybe the oil industry can get back to drilling domesticly.

Barney Frank has pledged to do everything possible to undermine the ruling.

The top contributors before the ruling was the Trial Lawyers and of course 70% of their money went to anti-business Democrats. Barney wants this to remain status-quo.

Maybe there is a light at the end of the tunnel if Barney the Homo does not get his way.

When is that freak of nature up for re-election?

[JRINJAX]

He is up for reelection in 2010. I don't know if it means anything but there has been a landslide of interest after the Scott Brown election about when Barney faces the voters next. That could be a sign that the Mass voters have sobered up.

[Tool-Slinger]

top contributors before the ruling was the Trial Lawyers and of course 70% of their money went to anti-business Democrats.

Where do you get that? Is there any more info on how such stuff is broken down?

From memory, I was thinking corps usually donated both ways about equally[so as not to offend?]. I expect unions are far left.

[printer2]

top contributors before the ruling was the Trial Lawyers and of course 70% of their money went to anti-business Democrats.

Where do you get that? Is there any more info on how such stuff is broken down?

From memory, I was thinking corps usually donated both ways about equally[so as not to offend?]. I expect unions are far left.

You have no far left.

[k-fridge]

Short-term, this will help the Republicans. I think this will be another advantage to them in a mid-term election that is already looking like a blood bath for the Dems.

BUT.....it could get Obama re-elected in the long-term. Remember what happened when Newt and the Republican Revolution took over congress? They started passing good, pro-growth legislation; and Clinton had the good sense to sign much of it. The economy boomed and Clinton got credit for it.

If this scenario happens again, Barry could come out smelling like roses.

[k-fridge]

You have no far left.
Relative to the US political system, we certainly do. Our president, the leaders of congress, and the head of the DNC are all far left.

[printer2]

Relative to the US political system, we certainly do. Our president, the leaders of congress, and the head of the DNC are all far left.

Communist Party of Canada. In 2998 they managed to get 0.03% of the popular vote!
http://www.communist-party.ca/

[k-fridge]

Communist Party of Canada. In 2998 they managed to get 0.03% of the popular vote!
http://www.communist-party.ca/
Hence my mention of relative.

I know people from other countries sometimes don't understand our concern when our government moves leftward. But we aren't wired the way people in other countries are. Though we've lost some of this; the US was born of people who had a strong sense of rugged individualism, and this way is still very strong in much of the country. The southern US, in particular, tends to be very much opposed to a large and intrusive federal government. You might have noticed that the more conservative posters here (a certain ductman and cow hand not withstanding :p) are from the southern part of the country. Most of us down here just want government to back off, and return to a more constitutional model of limited government.

The framers were very clear that the role of the feds was to be limited, and all powers that were not delegated to them were to remain with the states. The political left, and some of the right, have taken us away from those ideals; and that is why were are in the mess we're in. Our particular form of government (representative democracy) does not work well with an all-powerful central government.

We are moving in the wrong direction. Most of the problems we face were caused by too much government; allowing the government to become even larger and more powerful will only make things worse.

[jmac00]

Americans do not want the 2000 page monstrosity. Not only have we watched vote buying because of its size and content, but it has pure unabashed favoritism throughout. The Trial Lawyers were exempted from the tax on Obamacare, some states got special exemptions to get a senator‟s vote, and recently, all unions were exempted as well. Obama‟s next move, it appears, will still be to bring overt socialism to the United States only this time in the guise of regulatory reform. The next legislation he seeks to pilot through the congress (it already passed the House) literally gives the Secretary of the Treasury the power to seize any company IN ANY ECONOMIC SECTOR which, in his judgment, is in danger of insolvency and whose failure would cause SYSTEMIC DAMAGE to the national economy (aka – the only problem is it leaves the definition up to a single person). This is totally anti-capitalistic and like other Obama programs -- probably unconstitutional.

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this from Fox news:

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2010/01/22/john-lott-supreme-court-campaign-finance-mccain-feingold/

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and this from the Wall Street Journal

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703699204575016843479815072.html

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and I will reiterate my own view of NObama:

In the 2012 NObama comes up for re-election he has ONE CHANCE to re-elected......Jobs. IF he can turn the economy around he will have a good shot at a second term. However, He may still have a shot at a second term regardless of the economy because I predict the Democratic Congress will give amnesty to all illegal aliens, thereby giving NObama an extra 20 million votes :patriot:

[printer2]

I understand the concern of a central government that is far away and not accountable to the local population. That is why we have a Federal government and Provincial governments. But I also see where consistent rules across the country makes sense.

What if one state decides trucks had to be no more than a certain height and another decides on a different standard. Or one decides that you can not dye margarine yellow because people can get confused and think it is butter. (Margarine is actually white. Quebec does not allow it to be colored, kind of a phycological thing, people like their margarine to look like butter. I guess their looking out for consumers has nothing to do with them having a large dairy industry.)

So I have heard many of you say you do not want large government in your lives. What parts would you give up? Oversight of the financial industry? Electrical standards for toasters, agriculture practices, drugs...

Might be a lot more inefficient if every State had to regulate all the things the Feds do. Mind you more people would be working.

[printer2]

Americans do not want the 2000 page monstrosity....

Yeah you guys sure do things funny down there. Our Health Care Act is seven pages long, fourteen if you include both official languages. The 2000 pages are the cost of getting things done with all the States you have I guess.

[k-fridge]

So I have heard many of you say you do not want large government in your lives. What parts would you give up?

The parts the constitution authorize.

[timebuilder]

I believe that the Supreme Court ruling allowing Corporations to finance campaigns to defend themselves during the next several elections cycles should move some of the radical Liberals out of the Congress and get America back to work. Maybe the oil industry can get back to drilling domesticly.

Barney Frank has pledged to do everything possible to undermine the ruling.

The top contributors before the ruling was the Trial Lawyers and of course 70% of their money went to anti-business Democrats. Barney wants this to remain status-quo.

Maybe there is a light at the end of the tunnel if Barney the Homo does not get his way.

Even as arrogant as Barney is, he is not stronger than the Supremes.

Finally, the last remaining segment of commerce will have a voice, and they will be able to speak against the other factions that have spoken against them, such as most news people who are democrats, who are shielded by freedom of the press.

Now, we will all have that freedom.

The likely result is that we will have a chance to drill for oil and gas, and use coal to keep our energy costs down. The ancillary gain in this is that now energy companies will have the time needed to develop the alternative energy sources that we'd all like to see. We can get the cost of solar panels down as technology makes that possible, and the advances in battery technology will make the plug-in car a reality that can actually work like we need it to.

My take on this is that even if global warming, or climate change, or whatever is the name-du-jour for this movement, turns out to be a total hoax (and it is starting to look that way) we will still need to disengage ourselves from OPEC. If we can accomplish that by building more nuclear plants like the French (I can't believe I just said that) then we can be more secure, more free, and more prosperous, all at the same time.

[bootlen]

So I have heard many of you say you do not want large government in your lives. What parts would you give up? Oversight of the financial industry? Electrical standards for toasters, agriculture practices, drugs...



Departments of Agriculture, Commerce, Education, Energy, Housing & Urban Development, Health & Human Services, Interior, Labor, and Transportation, EPA, U.N. Ambassadorship, and each and every so-called czar.

That would be my first cuts.

[jmac00]

I understand the concern of a central government that is far away and not accountable to the local population. That is why we have a Federal government and Provincial governments. But I also see where consistent rules across the country makes sense.

What if one state decides trucks had to be no more than a certain height and another decides on a different standard. Or one decides that you can not dye margarine yellow because people can get confused and think it is butter. (Margarine is actually white. Quebec does not allow it to be colored, kind of a phycological thing, people like their margarine to look like butter. I guess their looking out for consumers has nothing to do with them having a large dairy industry.)

So I have heard many of you say you do not want large government in your lives. What parts would you give up? Oversight of the financial industry? Electrical standards for toasters, agriculture practices, drugs...

Might be a lot more inefficient if every State had to regulate all the things the Feds do. Mind you more people would be working.

I have a very simple view of Government: It should govern and stay out of business. I believe we should have let the financial institutions fail...all of them. In Capitalism when one business fails another WILL FILL THE VOID, It would have been painful and we would have a depression for a couple years but the recovery would have been powerful and we (America) would come out of it much stronger.

NObamaCare is simply unconstitutional: Lets look at NobamaCare as a "product produced by the government" (basically it is just that, a product) No where in the constitution does it say that we, as citizens of this country MUST BUY a product that is produced by the government simply because we exist. One of the provisions of NObamaCare is: I MUST BUY HEALTH CARE FROM THE GOVERNMENT: show me in the constitution where I have to buy a government program.................anyone? :anyone:

[bootlen]

I forgot one. The IRS.

[jmac00]

I forgot one. The IRS.

and the FOMC ~~~~"the Fed"

[timebuilder]

I'd repeal the REA as well. It is still in force today, and was last amended in 1993.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rural_Electrification_Act

By the way. The protections of things like toasters comes from Underwriter's Laboratories, not the government.

That reminds me of what I say when people tell me the FAA is in charge of aviation. In practice, it only handles licensing, certifications, and rules. The real power in aviation is insurance, not government.

[Tool-Slinger]

national endowment for the 'arts'.

[bootlen]

national endowment for the 'arts'.

OH, GOD, YES!!!!!!!

[Pneuma]

I believe that the Supreme Court ruling allowing Corporations to finance campaigns to defend themselves during the next several elections cycles should move some of the radical Liberals out of the Congress and get America back to work. Maybe the oil industry can get back to drilling domesticly.

Barney Frank has pledged to do everything possible to undermine the ruling.

The top contributors before the ruling was the Trial Lawyers and of course 70% of their money went to anti-business Democrats. Barney wants this to remain status-quo.

Maybe there is a light at the end of the tunnel if Barney the Homo does not get his way.

Just curious how you feel about the Pickens plan to use our natural gas reserves? Because the one big obstacle to that politically is from oil and coal. Big oil could run ad after ad about how we need to drill. Big oil can now pretty much bury the pickens plan and I'm not so sure that is a good thing.

[JRINJAX]

The real power in aviation is insurance, not government.Spoken like a true Pilot!

[JRINJAX]

Just curious how you feel about the Pickens plan to use our natural gas reserves? Because the one big obstacle to that politically is from oil and coal. Big oil could run ad after ad about how we need to drill. Big oil can now pretty much bury the pickens plan and I'm not so sure that is a good thing.I really would love to see the Nuclear, Coal, Oil, Solar, Geothermal and Natural gas battle it out in a free marketplace while WORKING AMERICANS pocket the savings.

[Pneuma]

I really would love to see the Nuclear, Coal, Oil, Solar, Geothermal and Natural gas battle it out in a free marketplace while WORKING AMERICANS pocket the savings.

What free market place? All of these industries operate under different tax structures and different regulations. Politicians can make any of these energy forms too expensive through legislation. That we have a free market is sort of a misnomer. You have the epa involved etc. We should use the best, cleanest and cheapest energy source, but what are the chances that we get that? I mean did we need to ban R-22 really? Is 410A the market leader in new residential equipment as of 2010 because of the free market?

[bootlen]

What free market place? All of these industries operate under different tax structures and different regulations. Politicians can make any of these energy forms too expensive through legislation. That we have a free market is sort of a misnomer. You have the epa involved etc. We should use the best, cleanest and cheapest energy source, but what are the chances that we get that? I mean did we need to ban R-22 really? Is 410A the market leader in new residential equipment as of 2010 because of the free market?

Well, obviously the gummint would have to STFU for that to happen. I'm JR would be willing for that to happen as well.

[royc]

Departments of Agriculture, Commerce, Education, Energy, Housing & Urban Development, Health & Human Services, Interior, Labor, and Transportation, EPA, U.N. Ambassadorship, and each and every so-called czar.

That would be my first cuts.

The (non) Federal Reserve.

Roy

[geerair]

I believe that the Supreme Court ruling allowing Corporations to finance campaigns to defend themselves during the next several elections cycles should move some of the radical Liberals out of the Congress and get America back to work. Maybe the oil industry can get back to drilling domesticly.The ruling will allow big business to continue their purchase of politicians and the ability to write laws favorable to themselves.

It means government by and for the deep-pockets instead of government by and for the people.