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drivewizard
01-05-2010, 05:13 PM
Anybody have a trick for holding the new o-ring in place while trying to hold the filter element and start threads?
It's a ELM-1405. Located right between the damn Evap and Cond barrels, with no easy way to get to it.

I have been putting some parker o-lube on the ring to sticky it up, but that is probably considered a no-no due to the POE issue. Plus it only holds for a few seconds even when the groove is oil free.

The Blankety-Blank, #$&** :censored::censored::censored: Engineer that decided that would be a good place to put it, should have to go out in the field and replace at least 10 of the Damn things.
Maybe he/she would think twice before designing something in a stupid location like that.

Healey Nut
01-05-2010, 06:42 PM
Vacuum grease, the whiteish really sticky stuff .

drivewizard
01-05-2010, 07:46 PM
Thanks, I'll give that a try next time.

StayinCool
01-07-2010, 09:34 PM
Any SILICONE based lube or vacuum grease will do. Avoid any petroleum based products as POE and petroleum dont play nice. One gentelman mentioned Parker which makes a silicone based lube.

absrbrtek
01-07-2010, 10:34 PM
I use spray adhesive. Glue the gasket on then put a light coat of oil on the surface o the oring. Been doing it on the York YS orings for years, thats another POS design where the oring wont stay in place.

CaptJackSparrow
01-08-2010, 01:15 PM
Vacuum grease, the whiteish really sticky stuff .

I had some of this some years back. You remeber the brand name?

Healey Nut
01-08-2010, 04:50 PM
I was rackin my brain when typing the reply but couldnt think of it . Anyways the stuff I have comes in a tube and is made by Dow Corning. I transfer it into a mini grease gun for doing centravac vane operaters and other jobs. You can usually find it at bearing shops .

heavymetaldad
01-08-2010, 06:10 PM
I use vacuum grease all the time. Available at Mcmaster- Carr, their p/n 296K52
http://i448.photobucket.com/albums/qq210/heavymetaldad/vacuumgrease.jpg
http://www.mcmaster.com/#vacuum-grease/=5agy7o

klove
01-08-2010, 08:01 PM
I use vacuum grease all the time. Available at Mcmaster- Carr, their p/n 296K52
http://i448.photobucket.com/albums/qq210/heavymetaldad/vacuumgrease.jpg
http://www.mcmaster.com/#vacuum-grease/=5agy7o

This stuff and D/C 111 are what I use.

york56
01-08-2010, 08:13 PM
Dow Corning 111 is my preference.

CaptJackSparrow
01-09-2010, 11:57 AM
This stuff and D/C 111 are what I use.

Is that thicker than 111?

klove
01-09-2010, 12:14 PM
Is that thicker than 111?

Hi Vac Grease is thicker than 111, but it's the same basic components. It's what we use on valve stems and cap threads on absorbers as a last line of defense against leaks. Also works really well to pack around shaft penetrations on open drive compressors when pulling refgt to change a leaking shaft seal.

Talked with Stickerhead the other day and he said that they've run into issues with 111 essentially drying out and getting powdery or flaky (I'm assuming sort of like Loctite curing ?), but I haven't personally ran into this. Parker O ring lube is good stuff, too, but it's awfully messy - lots thinner and sort of gets all over you when trying to apply it.

heavymetaldad
01-09-2010, 04:31 PM
Hi Vac Grease is thicker than 111, but it's the same basic components. It's what we use on valve stems and cap threads on absorbers as a last line of defense against leaks. Also works really well to pack around shaft penetrations on open drive compressors when pulling refgt to change a leaking shaft seal.

Talked with Stickerhead the other day and he said that they've run into issues with 111 essentially drying out and getting powdery or flaky (I'm assuming sort of like Loctite curing ?), but I haven't personally ran into this. Parker O ring lube is good stuff, too, but it's awfully messy - lots thinner and sort of gets all over you when trying to apply it.

I haven't used 111.
The Parker o-ring smogee is ok, but i wish the tube was made out of a more durable material. Have had multiple tubes "explode" in the buggy.