Is rheem a good brand?

[flavor4real]

Hello guys,
One of the HVAC tech is helping me out and installing a AC/heater system. He got me a quote for a 2.5 ton seer13rheem, now Is rheem a good brand?

[jpb2]

As good as the installer is

[diesel65]

Hello guys,
One of the HVAC tech is helping me out and installing a AC/heater system. He got me a quote for a 2.5 ton seer13rheem, now Is rheem a good brand?

Rheem is my brand of choice, and I would rather sell it than any other brand.

As said already, it is all in the install.

[BaldLoonie]

Rheem is a great product. Got model #s so we can see whether he is quoting low end or high end?

[beenthere]

Doesn't matter how good the brand. if its over sized. You'll have trouble.

And 2.5 tons still sounds large for 950 sq ft.

[Airmechanical]

if the system is oversized a little, go with the variable speed motor for extra dehumidification



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[sktn77a]

Rheem is a good brand. Bear in mind, like most other manufacturers, they make cheap "builder grade" HVAC equipment together with the top of the line, communicating, multi-stage, modulating, equipment. None of this is means anything, however, if the installer doesn't do a good job sizing and installing the equipment.

[Milk man]

I too like Rheem.

I don't sell Rheem, but like working on them.

[jweig20]

Not a fan of the older rheem.heard the newer models are getting better.they are just ass backwards from anyother type of units.Hope they fix the airflow problems from that w coil

[davefr]

Consumer reports seems to like Rheem. (if that data is meaningful)

Their condensors seem to occupy a large footprint, but I can't imagine an easier system to work on.

They use industry std. components like Ranco boards, Emerson Scroll compressors, GE motors, etc.

I would also say their protection circuits are good. (ex: low pressure/high pressure cutouts, etc)

Their documentation is pretty good.

My biggest gripe might be dated but their RPNE units used some crappy plastic Mexican run capacitors made by Aerovox.

I also don't like their bases that had (or still have) bad locations for pump ups. (they need to be shimmed to sit level).

Their air handlers seem pretty good. Smaller then average form factor and well sealed.

Rheem seems to like to avoid the complexity of Carrier. (there is beauty in simplicity!!)

Get a good installer and you probably won't go wrong with Rheem.

[Erik HVAC]

Rheem is a good product because they last a long time in my opinion.

[MechComf]

Doesn't matter how good the brand. if its over sized. You'll have trouble.

And 2.5 tons still sounds large for 950 sq ft.

I agree 2.5 tons seems very large for 950 sq. ft.. My question to beenthere.
Where did you see the size of the house? Either you have inside information, or I is plain missin' sumpin' :)

[WhoIsThat?]

http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=rheem+complaint&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
To be fair, plug in other brand names in the same search field and see how they stack up.

Everybody gets complaints; I'd look for trends and how Rheem handled their unhappy customers.

Here's another option, using the OR search operator
http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=rheem+OR+carrier+OR+bryant+OR+Payne+%22class+act ion%22&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

or, using the advanced search Google option
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=safari&rls=en&as_q=+&as_epq=&as_oq=rheem+carrier+bryant+Payne+age+lifespan&as_eq=&num=10&lr=&as_filetype=&ft=i&as_sitesearch=&as_qdr=all&as_rights=&as_occt=any&cr=&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&safe=off

Forgot: if brand X sells 10x the number of units as brand Y does then you can expect they'll have 10x the number of complaints as brand Y.

[beenthere]

I agree 2.5 tons seems very large for 950 sq. ft.. My question to beenthere.
Where did you see the size of the house? Either you have inside information, or I is plain missin' sumpin' :)

From one of his other threads.


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switching fro gas floor fur. to central air/heat and need help
Hello,
this is my first post guys o take it easy on me ;-). one of the workers in our HVAC dept. is willing to install a air/central split system in my 900sqf house. He came buy and meassured the rooms and the next day he came up with details.

He said a 2.5ton rheem seer13, R410, split system with the inside unit in the attic for ~

[sammy37]

I agree 2.5 tons seems very large for 950 sq. ft.. My question to beenthere.
Where did you see the size of the house? Either you have inside information, or I is plain missin' sumpin' :)


The OP posted the sq footage in another post, beenthere must have a good memory.

[sammy37]

beenthere, you beat me to the answer.

[Some Dude]

Have it sized properly and make sure you get a variable speed drive/two stage gas valve.
Their 16 seer only comes in a two stage A/C .
Their 14-15 seer is a single stage.
I would recommend going as high as possible on the seer rateing.
It wouldnt be fair to give an unbiased opinion since i just became a dealer.
But so far i really like the equipment.
Rated number one in dependability.
The equipment is heavy and well made and the fit and finish is very nice.
The systems ive installed all have happy homeowners with no complaints , all of them are happy with their systems.

[kenshvac]

Hello guys,
One of the HVAC tech is helping me out and installing a AC/heater system. He got me a quote for a 2.5 ton seer13rheem, now Is rheem a good brand?

Ok Rheem is a great system ,but where are you located,2.5 tons sounds wrong to me even with heat pump and again model #'s help.I sell Rheem only (unless customer demands different)I also just got back from fort smith arkansas on a factory tour of the Rheem manufacturing plant and as a witness they build those systems great very thorough.So my opinion and consumer reports opinion Rheem is the best out there.

[WhoIsThat?]

So my opinion and consumer reports opinion Rheem is the best out there.
Is it also the best for the money you pay, a high [what you get]/[what you pay] ratio?

[karsthuntr]

Ok Rheem is a great system ,but where are you located,2.5 tons sounds wrong to me even with heat pump and again model #'s help.I sell Rheem only (unless customer demands different)I also just got back from fort smith arkansas on a factory tour of the Rheem manufacturing plant and as a witness they build those systems great very thorough.So my opinion and consumer reports opinion Rheem is the best out there.
Well thats at least three people from here that went catching on the White River.

[kenshvac]

Well thats at least three people from here that went catching on the White River.

Was you there?the food and fishing both was great

[kenshvac]

Is it also the best for the money you pay, a high [what you get]/[what you pay] ratio?

That depends on the contractor.I've dealt with trane,bryant,carrier,and rheem and like i said rheem systems are very comparable,my opinion I like rheem alot better.The compressor is easy to get to along with all the other components,the sound is very low,the only thing i hear on the higher seer is fan only and its quiet.

[docholiday]

Well I've fished the river too... probably more than I should have... anyway...

Oh yeah.. 2.5 tons...

We hang out here in the mid 90's all summer long (except this summer) and 3 tons does my 2500 square feet. That is to say, just do the load calculation as everyone suggests, you'll be glad you did. Not only can it save you money, it can make your home a whole lot more comfortable.

[karsthuntr]

The food was great and way too much of it.


I was the skinny guy with all the caving shirts. :D

[kenshvac]

The food was great and way too much of it.


I was the skinny guy with all the caving shirts. :D

the first night that steak just about killed me:nopity:

[karsthuntr]

That steak was huge.

Somebody asked me, "Did you see all those cows when we came in? There now 2 left." LOL:D

[kenshvac]

That steak was huge.

Somebody asked me, "Did you see all those cows when we came in? There now 2 left." LOL:D

Yeah I know also found out out today you were fishing and rooming with my bud

[cool breeze va]

RHEEM IS JUNK

[kenshvac]

RHEEM IS JUNK

You Suck

[kenshvac]

You Suck

thats why your not a pro member lol

[cool breeze va]

more like I didnt fill the form out. nice reply and ill leave it at that.

[WhoIsThat?]

RHEEM IS JUNK
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. And by the way this thread is going, that is an extraordinary claim.
It's also defaming Rheem! :oops:

[beenthere]

RHEEM IS

Everyone is welcome to have an opinion.

If you wish to express yours on Rheem. You should also give the reason you have trouble with them.

Then those that know how to install them properly, can teach you how to.

[karsthuntr]

Yeah I know also found out out today you were fishing and rooming with my bud


Well that's cool. A tight knit Rheem family :D

[cool breeze va]

rheems actually run with minor issues. What I do not like about them is their performance. A/c modes decent enough. Heat pumps no.... Lets not yet goto performance findings. Lets just read the inside of the cover where it states the expected temperature rise in heating ( no strips on ) 37 deg is around 22 deg temp rise. That is poor. My carrier and heil have more then that at 26 deg out. There is one reason.
Second when they went from 10 to 13 seer units. They added a txv valve. But still left the 2 small cap tubes. I say cheap fix. The neighbor has a 13 seer rheem which is where I saw these items and I can tell you performance wise... poor compared to his other unit which is a 13 seer heil. And befor you ask, yes the pressures and such were dead on. but the label inside showing expected temp rise was low.

performance is why i do not recommend rheem. Not just the color

[karsthuntr]

You see one unit and think Rheem is junk?

The only time Rheem is junk is when they are sold to and installed by piss poor contractors. Rheem equipment cannot be hacked in and still perform correctly. Rheems HSPF numbers are on the high side and always have been.

[sammy37]

I have heard nothing but praise for Rheem by most everyone on this site, I think that says alot for them.

[beenthere]

Haven't had a temp rise problem with any Rheem I serviced. That was installed right.

The installer probably didn't put the orfice in your neighbors unit.

[jpb2]

I sell millions of dollars in Ruud. Have for 15 years. have their been issues ? Yes. Are a lot of them instalation issues ? Yes. Have there been design flaws on the heat pumps ? Yes. Is it the best gas furnace line on the market ? Yes. With the right distributor does it take a second seat to any line out there ? NO period

[rheem n u]

Consumer reports seems to like Rheem. (if that data is meaningful)

Their condensors seem to occupy a large footprint, but I can't imagine an easier system to work on.

They use industry std. components like Ranco boards, Emerson Scroll compressors, GE motors, etc.

I would also say their protection circuits are good. (ex: low pressure/high pressure cutouts, etc)

Their documentation is pretty good.

My biggest gripe might be dated but their RPNE units used some crappy plastic Mexican run capacitors made by Aerovox.

I also don't like their bases that had (or still have) bad locations for pump ups. (they need to be shimmed to sit level).

Their air handlers seem pretty good. Smaller then average form factor and well sealed.

Rheem seems to like to avoid the complexity of Carrier. (there is beauty in simplicity!!)

Get a good installer and you probably won't go wrong with Rheem.


Yes they fixed the capacitor problem.
And as far as using pump ups and getting them to sit level we never had any problems. but I havent installed anything else in so long im sure there is a better design for putting the pumps on

[BaldLoonie]

Rheems don't heat well? Temp rise is a function of BTU output and airflow. Here's all the specs from 4 single stage tax credit "3 ton" pumps and air handlers:

RPQL-036:
36,800 BTU cooling
15.5 SEER, 13 EER (.5 points above minimum)
10 HSPF!!! (1.5 points above minimum)
47° heating 37,200 BTU
17° heating 24,200 BTU

Trane 4TWX5036:
36,000 BTU cooling
15.00 SEER, 13 EER
9.00 HSPF
47° heating 34,000 BTU (Trane's best at heating 3,200 BTU below Rheem)
17° heating 23,400 BTU

Lennox XP14:
34,800 BTU cooling
15.00 SEER, 13 EER
8.75 HSPF
47° heating 35,000 BTU
17° heating 21,000 BTU

Carrier 25HBB:
15.50 SEER, 13 EER
34,600 BTU cooling
8.50 HSPF (minimum to quality, 1.5 points behind Rheem)
47° heating 35,000 BTU
17° heating 20,800 BTU (3,400 BTU less than Rheem)

So look at performance of these 4 similar heat pumps. Which one will have the best temp rise and the lowest operating costs? Which is the easiest to work on?

Oh, want a 2 stage Choo Choo? 3 ton heat output is as low as 30K at 47° and 17K at 17°! Temp rise?

I miss my WPGB!!! :(

[karsthuntr]

Rheems don't heat well? Temp rise is a function of BTU output and airflow. Here's all the specs from 4 single stage tax credit "3 ton" pumps and air handlers:

RPQL-036:
36,800 BTU cooling
15.5 SEER, 13 EER (.5 points above minimum)
10 HSPF!!! (1.5 points above minimum)
47° heating 37,200 BTU
17° heating 24,200 BTU

Trane 4TWX5036:
36,000 BTU cooling
15.00 SEER, 13 EER
9.00 HSPF
47° heating 34,000 BTU (Trane's best at heating 3,200 BTU below Rheem)
17° heating 23,400 BTU

Lennox XP14:
34,800 BTU cooling
15.00 SEER, 13 EER
8.75 HSPF
47° heating 35,000 BTU
17° heating 21,000 BTU

Carrier 25HBB:
15.50 SEER, 13 EER
34,600 BTU cooling
8.50 HSPF (minimum to quality, 1.5 points behind Rheem)
47° heating 35,000 BTU
17° heating 20,800 BTU (3,400 BTU less than Rheem)

So look at performance of these 4 similar heat pumps. Which one will have the best temp rise and the lowest operating costs? Which is the easiest to work on?

Oh, want a 2 stage Choo Choo? 3 ton heat output is as low as 30K at 47° and 17K at 17°! Temp rise?

I miss my WPGB!!! :(
:D

[flavor4real]

guys,.. I'm really lost here. It looks like that there are installers who charge you arm and leg for a 2ton system which is not even credited in the tax. and there are other installers who simple don't know what they are doing.... why is it so hard to find a installer who is fair and do a good job? .. I've been remodeling my house since 15 month and I have to do all by myself cause every single installer do a half a$$ job.

I thought about going to sears but they are famous for overcharging.. im kind of l o s t

[rheem n u]

Its is really simple.... get five estimates throw the high one away and throw the low one away. now you should have three decent estimates to chose from.

[beenthere]

guys,.. I'm really lost here. It looks like that there are installers who charge you arm and leg for a 2ton system which is not even credited in the tax.

The cost of the job is based on the quality of the work.

[heaterman]

The cost of the job is based on the quality of the work.

Or should be in theory

[WhoIsThat?]

Its is really simple.... get five estimates throw the high one away and throw the low one away. now you should have three decent estimates to chose from.
But if the remaining three are not clustered together then get more bids.

...a....bcd..e....f
0.....|.....|.....|.....
relative price..$

In the example, a & f are outliers and the true cost for doing the job in your zipcode today is probably c or d.

In general, there is no
http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=%22correlation+between+price+and+quality%22&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
so for a quality job I guess you need to ask around about your remaining candidates.

Then, maybe, you can figure out the quality/price ratio.

[kenshvac]

guys,.. I'm really lost here. It looks like that there are installers who charge you arm and leg for a 2ton system which is not even credited in the tax. and there are other installers who simple don't know what they are doing.... why is it so hard to find a installer who is fair and do a good job? .. I've been remodeling my house since 15 month and I have to do all by myself cause every single installer do a half a$$ job.

I thought about going to sears but they are famous for overcharging.. im kind of l o s t

Rheem has alot of 2 ton systems that qualify for tax credit,you need to contact other contractors

[kenshvac]

more like I didnt fill the form out. nice reply and ill leave it at that.

Im sorry cool I dont mean to judge but i've been in the industry along time and honestly Rheem is the best system ive installed:oops: