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PaysonHVAC
09-20-2003, 11:40 AM
It takes a lot to get some old timers to let their old system go and buy a new one!

http://www.paysonarizona.net/06-09-03_Old%20Carrier%20Condenser.jpg
Here is his 1953 Carrier straight cool condenser.
It used R-12.


http://www.paysonarizona.net/06-09-03_Old%20Carrier%20Evap.jpg
The indoor coil. Here is where I found the leak.
It was on one of the u-tubes. These tubes are 1/2" in diameter. I probably could have fixxed it.
But I finally got it thru to the old man that 20+ Lbs of R12 was going to run him over $2000 and of course we would never risk that or waranty that!



http://www.paysonarizona.net/06-09-03_Old%20Carrier%20Evap%20Belt%20Driven%20Motor.jp g
Here's his indoor blower. Above it was a splitter and a damper you switched it to blow either thru the furnace or the A/C coil.



http://www.paysonarizona.net/06-09-03_Old%20Carrier%20Condenser%20Pillar%20Bearing.jp g
His outdoor blower on the condenser coil also had a busted bearing.



http://www.paysonarizona.net/06-09-03_Old%20Carrier%20Condenser%20Compressor%20and%20 Belt%20Driven%20Fan.jpg
The compressor STILL operated.
Too bad Carrier doesn't build (or use) a scroll this reliable!


I'm sure many of you have met customers who get attached to their old junk!

James 3528
09-20-2003, 11:59 AM
Great pictures.

icemeister
09-20-2003, 01:02 PM
As a Carrier unit from 1953, that probably first ran on what we now call R500, or as known in those days as Carrene #7 and then Carrene 500.

That was an era when real engineers ran these companies. It wasn't until Harvard Business School started cranking out bean counters armed with with their MBAs that they realized stuff shouldn't last that long. :)

Breeze
09-20-2003, 01:50 PM
Down here the ones I worked on were all R-12. Some had the compressor inside, condenser coil and blower outside.

The inside unit had a furnace and was in a closet about the size of a small kitchen.

I hated working on those beast.

tlcartman
09-20-2003, 07:08 PM
when you change the unit out save the heads from the compressor. they are collectors items. carrier long ago quit making the heads with their name on them.


did the indoor unit look like this. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3627513599&category=1527

PaysonHVAC
09-20-2003, 08:31 PM
You mean this pic?
http://kkpro.ca/ebay/53cairc.jpg

I don't think it looked anything like that. It was kind of real old school in his closet that was in the hallway.

The furnace sat on the RIGHT side of the upper platform and the A/C Coil sat on the Left side and then the bbelt driven blower section was under the platform with that spliter under neath. You had to move the lever to direct the blower thru the coil or thru the furnace.

The unit WAS R-12 not 500. It was labeled as CCL2F2

Oh yeah. Here's a picture of the furnace label...
http://www.paysonarizona.net/06-09-03_Old%20Carrier%20Furnace.jpg

As for the compressor, I am not sure if anyone removed it BEFORE DUMPING IT IN THE COMPACTOR at work!!!!

In fact, by coincidence someone else condemned the same condenser the same week. I found one sitting next to the compactor the same week, but it wasn't the one I pictured. We were joking about keeping the antique compressors for show and tell.

I should have. If it wasn't for it being 3-phase, I would have taken it home and turned it into a bad ass air compressor in my garage! That would have been so cool :-P

thero
09-21-2003, 10:56 AM
Ahhh, those were the days when they made real
equipment and you had to be a real mechanic with a GOOD HVAC education to work on them.

With the stuff they make today, I feel like An ME
reduced to repairing vacuum cleaners.