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low pressure guy
07-19-2009, 09:08 AM
HEY GUYS, I'M LOOKING FOR A NAME OF A COMPANY THAT MAKES A DEVICE TO LIFT COMPRESSORS IN A CONDENSING UNIT WHERE THE COMPRESSORS ARE UNDER THE CONDENSING COILS . IT LOOKS LIKE TWO SHORT A-FRAMES W/ AN I-BEAM ATTACHED. THANKS. OH YA ,WHAT DO YOU RECOMMEND FOR A LEAK DETECTOR FOR 410A.

Dallas Duster
07-19-2009, 10:57 AM
Like what kind of condensing unit ? Hey Buddy I think your caps are locked.

ChillerWisperer
07-19-2009, 11:03 AM
HEY GUYS, I'M LOOKING FOR A NAME OF A COMPANY THAT MAKES A DEVICE TO LIFT COMPRESSORS IN A CONDENSING UNIT WHERE THE COMPRESSORS ARE UNDER THE CONDENSING COILS . IT LOOKS LIKE TWO SHORT A-FRAMES W/ AN I-BEAM ATTACHED. THANKS. OH YA ,WHAT DO YOU RECOMMEND FOR A LEAK DETECTOR FOR 410A.


Quit YELLING...I have a headache.

Also I thought you were referring to the pumping capacity of a compressor.

slb8101
07-19-2009, 02:42 PM
HEY GUYS, I'M LOOKING FOR A NAME OF A COMPANY THAT MAKES A DEVICE TO LIFT COMPRESSORS IN A CONDENSING UNIT WHERE THE COMPRESSORS ARE UNDER THE CONDENSING COILS . IT LOOKS LIKE TWO SHORT A-FRAMES W/ AN I-BEAM ATTACHED. THANKS. OH YA ,WHAT DO YOU RECOMMEND FOR A LEAK DETECTOR FOR 410A. Depending on the height, you might try using a Tframe, if so I have one I will sell at a good price.

marter
07-19-2009, 03:12 PM
a duct lift will do it, depending on the weight and height, but its hairy at more then 15ft. and you still need too people to get it up top

yellowirenut
07-19-2009, 03:30 PM
my problem is the high seer r22 units (commercial) are kind of high for me to drop a new compressor into. i am 5'7" and some of the units are chest high. Would be interesting if anyone had plans or if they made a rig so i can lower a compressor into the condenser with out worry of falling off a ladder or my bucket. i don't mind having my feet in the air as i make the connections. I just don't want to end up that way because something slipped and the compressor fell in with me following it. Duct lift is imposable to get onto a roof..that and it wont fit in my van:o

ChillerWisperer
07-19-2009, 03:46 PM
my problem is the high seer r22 units (commercial) are kind of high for me to drop a new compressor into. i am 5'7" and some of the units are chest high. Would be interesting if anyone had plans or if they made a rig so i can lower a compressor into the condenser with out worry of falling off a ladder or my bucket. i don't mind having my feet in the air as i make the connections. I just don't want to end up that way because something slipped and the compressor fell in with me following it. Duct lift is imposable to get onto a roof..that and it wont fit in my van:o

How about a collapsable tripod like they use over man holes? Something like this: http://www.northernsafety.com/Products/162-17557/Confined-Space-Miller-by-Sperian-ManHandler-Hoist-and-7'-Tripod-System-for-Confined-Space.html?OPC=GP162THWI02&PFM=B

You could probably build a lightweight version a lot cheaper using 1" aluminum pipe. I think it's so expensive because of the safety requirements and the weight it has to lift. But just wanted to give you an idea of what to design.

yellowirenut
07-19-2009, 04:21 PM
excellent..i see it now...small chain hoist at the top..some kind of feet so it would not dig into the roof...just need a way for 3 pipes to come to a point at the top. i really don't want to use 4 pipes..keep the "kit" as light and small as possible

jpsmith1cm
07-19-2009, 04:26 PM
excellent..i see it now...small chain hoist at the top..some kind of feet so it would not dig into the roof...just need a way for 3 pipes to come to a point at the top. i really don't want to use 4 pipes..keep the "kit" as light and small as possible

Drill a long bolt through all 3.

yellowirenut
07-19-2009, 04:48 PM
need a sheer strength greater than 100lb...will have to look in my dewalt book if it has the stamp coding for sheer strength of bolts. But a bolt seem like it would not be rigid enough.

york56
07-19-2009, 06:04 PM
Most air cooled equipment has Compressors under coils which ever they may be Scrolls or Screws or Reciporcating majority of things mentioned will work but I still prefer long slings chocking Compressors and also something to hold back the weight until it is out from under the unit. Same goes for the reinstall.;)

jpsmith1cm
07-19-2009, 06:25 PM
need a sheer strength greater than 100lb...will have to look in my dewalt book if it has the stamp coding for sheer strength of bolts. But a bolt seem like it would not be rigid enough.

I think a big Grade 8 should cover you.

meoberry
07-19-2009, 06:30 PM
my problem is the high seer r22 units (commercial) are kind of high for me to drop a new compressor into. i am 5'7" and some of the units are chest high. Would be interesting if anyone had plans or if they made a rig so i can lower a compressor into the condenser with out worry of falling off a ladder or my bucket. i don't mind having my feet in the air as i make the connections. I just don't want to end up that way because something slipped and the compressor fell in with me following it. Duct lift is imposable to get onto a roof..that and it wont fit in my van:o
Easiest way is to take condensor coil out. Most units this takes less than 15 minutes with a cordless drill not counting time to remove freon. OOPS! Sorry just reread post did not notice the commercial part. Make it 45 minutes. By the time you have the freon recovered you can have tore down to 2 sweat joints to remove coil. But you will need help to remove coil and reinstall.

heavymetaldad
07-19-2009, 07:30 PM
excellent..i see it now...small chain hoist at the top..some kind of feet so it would not dig into the roof...just need a way for 3 pipes to come to a point at the top. i really don't want to use 4 pipes..keep the "kit" as light and small as possible

(2) pipe stands, with 1 1/4 thinwall cut to size for elevation, cross member any size pipe suitable for weight, (1'' to 2'', std. or sch. 80) cut to length, (2) 2x2 3/4 pc. plywood for base. a 'd' shackle to hang a 1/2 t. fall off of.

ChillerWisperer
07-19-2009, 09:02 PM
I've also used a little giant ladder set up as an "A" frame with a length of 3/4" black iron pipe across the rungs with a chainfall hanging from it. It works well to bring a can up through a roof hatch, so it should work well on a condensing unit.

meoberry
07-19-2009, 09:12 PM
I've also used a little giant ladder set up as an "A" frame with a length of 3/4" black iron pipe across the rungs with a chainfall hanging from it. It works well to bring a can up through a roof hatch, so it should work well on a condensing unit.

Now that is using your head for something other than a hat rack.
That is a very good idea. Those things are rated for three hundred pounds are they not.:cool:

yorktek37
07-20-2009, 01:06 AM
Now that is using your head for something other than a hat rack.
That is a very good idea. Those things are rated for three hundred pounds are they not.:cool:

should work. Never thought of using a little giant ladder. eureka!

thrashme
07-20-2009, 09:46 AM
I recently bought a "Cherry Picker" from an automotive parts wholesaler. I works very well for changing compressors on a rack. I sometimes have a problem though with the legs either not fitting under the receiver or not being wide enough to straddle the piece of equipment, for example om some conventional, stand alone condensing units or satellite compressors. most of the change-outs are semi hermetic, so I can attach an eyebolt on top. You may consider it as an option

ChillerWisperer
07-20-2009, 03:10 PM
I recently bought a "Cherry Picker" from an automotive parts wholesaler. I works very well for changing compressors on a rack. I sometimes have a problem though with the legs either not fitting under the receiver or not being wide enough to straddle the piece of equipment, for example om some conventional, stand alone condensing units or satellite compressors. most of the change-outs are semi hermetic, so I can attach an eyebolt on top. You may consider it as an option

I'd like to see you drag that up on a roof by yourself.

thrashme
07-21-2009, 08:47 AM
OK, I missed the part about the roof, my apologies. But on some buildings the are winch frames at the edge. I have a small 120v electric winch to mount on their frame and pull up almost anything. Even so it would be quite an undertaking.

mustardman
07-21-2009, 08:42 PM
need a sheer strength greater than 100lb...will have to look in my dewalt book if it has the stamp coding for sheer strength of bolts. But a bolt seem like it would not be rigid enough.

Grade 8 bolt the sheer strength will suprise you

jasond68
01-22-2011, 01:54 PM
my problem is the high seer r22 units (commercial) are kind of high for me to drop a new compressor into. i am 5'7" and some of the units are chest high. Would be interesting if anyone had plans or if they made a rig so i can lower a compressor into the condenser with out worry of falling off a ladder or my bucket. i don't mind having my feet in the air as i make the connections. I just don't want to end up that way because something slipped and the compressor fell in with me following it. Duct lift is imposable to get onto a roof..that and it wont fit in my van:o

I also am 5'7" tall and injured my back a few times lifting and lowering the compressors to and from units as you have described here. So in 2003 i woke up one morning with a picture in my head of how to remedy that problem. :angel: I quickly drew it up and I now have a patented { #7857288 } tool that lifts compressors from High Seer condensing units and re-installs them. I have been using my prototype for 2 1/2 years now and was issued the patent in Dec of 2010.
i am very happy with it! It is all aluminum construction and is easily portable and compact. It sits on the top of the condenser, it sets up in all of about 30 seconds and has a motorized winch to do the work. I also have a design for the Trane xli systems. It's made in America..:patriot:
It saved me from having to take an extra man on the job, or from disconnecting the coil, not to mention the back injuries that it has averted.

I love it! It has become my favorite tool to use by far! Primarily because it makes the job soooo much easier and quicker! :couch:

I was in the process of getting them into the market back in the summer of 2009 when my wife of 17 years decided she liked someone else better and it rocked my world, so i shut everything down for several months. Her timing sucked to say the least. :nopity:

Peter_Peter
01-16-2012, 01:50 PM
my problem is the high seer r22 units (commercial) are kind of high for me to drop a new compressor into. i am 5'7" and some of the units are chest high. Would be interesting if anyone had plans or if they made a rig so i can lower a compressor into the condenser with out worry of falling off a ladder or my bucket. i don't mind having my feet in the air as i make the connections. I just don't want to end up that way because something slipped and the compressor fell in with me following it. Duct lift is imposable to get onto a roof..that and it wont fit in my van:o

I've built a lift for picking up compressors from inside high SEER round or square units and setting on the ground beside. Weighs about 50 lbs, fits in a 1'x1'x5' box. Reply if you are interested.

Tech Rob
01-16-2012, 04:41 PM
Just don't let the safety guys see it, LOL

http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/x400/robmat813/0111110845a.jpg

sgraefe
01-16-2012, 09:34 PM
I use a couple of tow chains to make a connection point for a come-along. Using the lifting points as a connecting point. It makes it portable, as it fits into a 1 gal paint can for the chain, and can be brought onto the roof easily. I've had the pleasure of changing out too many compressors this way. Has almost become an artform.

Peter_Peter
02-02-2012, 08:55 AM
How difficult and/or expensive was the patent process?

valdelocc
02-03-2012, 06:38 PM
www.complift.com

jnsrose
02-03-2012, 08:33 PM
I also am 5'7" tall and injured my back a few times lifting and lowering the compressors to and from units as you have described here. So in 2003 i woke up one morning with a picture in my head of how to remedy that problem. :angel: I quickly drew it up and I now have a patented { #7857288 } tool that lifts compressors from High Seer condensing units and re-installs them. I have been using my prototype for 2 1/2 years now and was issued the patent in Dec of 2010.
i am very happy with it! It is all aluminum construction and is easily portable and compact. It sits on the top of the condenser, it sets up in all of about 30 seconds and has a motorized winch to do the work. I also have a design for the Trane xli systems. It's made in America..:patriot:
It saved me from having to take an extra man on the job, or from disconnecting the coil, not to mention the back injuries that it has averted.

I love it! It has become my favorite tool to use by far! Primarily because it makes the job soooo much easier and quicker! :couch:

I was in the process of getting them into the market back in the summer of 2009 when my wife of 17 years decided she liked someone else better and it rocked my world, so i shut everything down for several months. Her timing sucked to say the least. :nopity:

Dude show us some pics you already got the patent.

jnsrose
02-03-2012, 08:34 PM
Just don't let the safety guys see it, LOL

http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/x400/robmat813/0111110845a.jpg

Innovative!!!

jnsrose
02-03-2012, 08:36 PM
I've built a lift for picking up compressors from inside high SEER round or square units and setting on the ground beside. Weighs about 50 lbs, fits in a 1'x1'x5' box. Reply if you are interested.

We are interested!!!

yorktek37
04-10-2012, 07:28 PM
We are interested!!!

Very interested. Need more info.