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engineerdave
07-03-2009, 09:27 PM
It seems Bitzer has a 3 year warranty, as opposed to Copeland's 1 year.

My guess is this nationwide customer is only the first to retrofit Bitzers.

Stand by for a tsunami.

Copeland.... do you savvy?
tjc76
07-03-2009, 09:39 PM
walmart?
HVAC9900
07-03-2009, 09:43 PM
Are there a lot of bitzers in vegas currently?
I just have not seen many of them in my travels here.
engineerdave
07-03-2009, 09:53 PM
Not yet, but I think they're a comin'.
NedFlanders
07-03-2009, 11:58 PM
I like how quiet they are
The green paint gives me the willies though
Dowadudda
07-04-2009, 10:10 AM
I recently was talking with someone at a seminar and was told that bitzer is gaining market share at a great rate of speed. The OEMS, are now using and deploying them at a greater pace than any time in the past. Copeland has had a long run at being the top dog. And so, I think it would be good to have some competition for once. Maybe some prices will go down.
engineerdave
07-04-2009, 10:53 AM
Copeland is suffering from the same delusion as our automotive industry... they truly think they're too big, too secure to be vulnerable. And their pricing reflects that attitude.

The Bitzer appears to be a good solid reliable machine. With triple the warranty time, it's a no-brainer for at least one national account.

Copeland better get their corporate head out of their corporate ass. Fast.

I agree with you Dow, the competition should be good for all of us.
HVAC9900
07-04-2009, 09:46 PM
Always liked copelands stuff, rarely had any issues. I agree with having some competition, it will definitely help in several ways.
airsmith
07-11-2009, 04:31 PM
what business is this
engineerdave
07-11-2009, 04:59 PM
what business is this



COSTCO

(hope i don't get in trouble for naming names...)
DaveCR
07-11-2009, 11:31 PM
You have to scratch your head when it comes to big international corporations. Up until a few weeks ago Bitzer and Copeland were business partners. Copeland sold re-branded (and re-painted) Bitzer screws in the US.
MikeySq
07-13-2009, 11:04 PM
I thjought I read somewhere before that Ingersoll-Rand company bought Bitzer, I couldn't find that again so I'm not 100% sure if it's true.

So if IR owns Bitzer it would only make sense to see them on Hussmann racks where a customer didn't specify a paticular brand of pump!

Mike
DaveCR
07-13-2009, 11:11 PM
IR owns Trane. From their respective sites, I don't believe IR and Bitzer are related.
pherman
07-14-2009, 05:29 PM
I thjought I read somewhere before that Ingersoll-Rand company bought Bitzer, I couldn't find that again so I'm not 100% sure if it's true.

So if IR owns Bitzer it would only make sense to see them on Hussmann racks where a customer didn't specify a paticular brand of pump!

Mike

That's what I thought. Those IR compressors look just like Bitzers with blue paint.

http://www.hussmann.com/Brochures%20%20Product%20Sheets/IR_CompressorsBro.pdf
Phase Loss
07-14-2009, 10:40 PM
That's what I thought. Those IR compressors look just like Bitzers with blue paint.

http://www.hussmann.com/Brochures%20%20Product%20Sheets/IR_CompressorsBro.pdf


Off topic....

but i wish my stores had copper pipes that had a high polish shine like the pipes in that picture:D
MikeySq
07-14-2009, 10:51 PM
Off topic....

but i wish my stores had copper pipes that had a high polish shine like the pipes in that picture:D

Do you mean you don't do any polishing???? what kind of mechanic are you??

:D:D:D:D:D:p
engineerdave
07-14-2009, 11:18 PM
What.....?

Can't a guy polish his pipe once in a while?
:p:p:p
phxhvac
07-17-2009, 12:33 AM
I have seen literature that shows IR with Hussmann on their Port-A-Paks. Not sure if it still stands though?:D
engineerdave
07-17-2009, 08:32 AM
When I was with Hussmann, word came that Hussmann had worked a deal to have Bitzers re-branded and then sold as Hussmann compressors. There's one store that I knoiw of here in Vegas that has them. I'm not sure that means one company owns the other, only that a deal had been struck. And that was a year or so ago.... a lot has changed sinced then.