Get A Fine For Not Answering The 2010 Census

[the dangling wrangler]

I didn't know you could be fined for not answering / giving false answers.


13 USC Sec. 221
TITLE 13 - CENSUS

CHAPTER 7 - OFFENSES AND PENALTIES

SUBCHAPTER II - OTHER PERSONS

Sec. 221. Refusal or neglect to answer questions; false answers

(a) Whoever, being over eighteen years of age, refuses or willfully neglects, when requested by the Secretary, or by any other authorized officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof acting under the instructions of the Secretary or authorized officer, to answer, to the best of his knowledge, any of the questions on any schedule submitted to him in connection with any census or survey provided for by subchapters I, II, IV, and V of chapter 5 of this title, applying to himself or to the family to which he belongs or is related, or to the farm or farms of which he or his family is the occupant, shall be fined not more than $100.

(b) Whoever, when answering questions described in subsection (a) of this section, and under the conditions or circumstances described in such subsection, willfully gives any answer that is false, shall be fined not more than $500.

[Tool-Slinger]

I didn't know you could be fined for not answering / giving false answers.


13 USC Sec. 221
TITLE 13 - CENSUS

CHAPTER 7 - OFFENSES AND PENALTIES

SUBCHAPTER II - OTHER PERSONS

Sec. 221. Refusal or neglect to answer questions; false answers

(a) Whoever, being over eighteen years of age, refuses or willfully neglects, when requested by the Secretary, or by any other authorized officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof acting under the instructions of the Secretary or authorized officer, to answer, to the best of his knowledge, any of the questions on any schedule submitted to him in connection with any census or survey provided for by subchapters I, II, IV, and V of chapter 5 of this title, applying to himself or to the family to which he belongs or is related, or to the farm or farms of which he or his family is the occupant, shall be fined not more than $100.

(b) Whoever, when answering questions described in subsection (a) of this section, and under the conditions or circumstances described in such subsection, willfully gives any answer that is false, shall be fined not more than $500.
Something fishy in the 'census' business. Check out this link, and the pdf file it links to showing the new census form.

http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=99337

'''''''While many recipients may consider the questionnaire to be tedious and meddling, the Census Bureau warns that citizens are required by law to complete it and may be fined as much as $5,000 for willfully refusing. While an individual may feel uneasy about answering each question truthfully, the fine for filing false information can be as much as $500. ''''''

I have no explanation as to why our sourced fines do not match.

[the dangling wrangler]

If I read that correctly, it's $5,000.00 for refusing, and $500.00 for lying. But, I could be wrong. Either way, it just ain't right. Or it could be a misprint. I wonder who would enforce this "law"?

[RoBoTeq]

Interesting. I wonder if citizen Barack Hussein Obama will answer truthfully that he is multiracial or if he will continue his lie about being Black? Then there will be that "what religion" are you clause:rolleyes:.

[the dangling wrangler]

Interesting. I wonder if citizen Barack Hussein Obama will answer truthfully that he is multiracial or if he will continue his lie about being Black? Then there will be that "what religion" are you clause:rolleyes:.

Do we know for sure he's even a legal citizen?

[RoBoTeq]

Do we know for sure he's even a legal citizen?
I'm pretty well convinced that that is not something that would not have been proven. The fact about that issue is that the president did comply with every legal requirement to show his citizenship by birth. All the president really did was to refuse to do any more then he had to in order to defend himself against those who did not accept the legal compliances.

That little move may have been legit, but it further showed what an elitist our president is in the fact that he does not need to answer to the American people.

[the dangling wrangler]

I just don't like the guy, period.

[RoBoTeq]

I just don't like the guy, period.
I don't know him enough to not like him. I don't trust him though.

[the dangling wrangler]

I don't know him enough to not like him. I don't trust him though.

I stand corrected. You're right.

[whec720]

They used to just come to your door and ask you how many lived in the household. Isn't that enough?
I say, let the lazy #$@ks from the government just look up facebook accounts, if they want to be nosy.

[Tool-Slinger]

They used to just come to your door and ask you how many lived in the household. Isn't that enough?
I say, let the lazy #$@ks from the government just look up facebook accounts, if they want to be nosy.
I think our government has gone beyond 'counting'. They are 'categorizing' us now.


'They' are not 'us', and they will come after us someday.

[the dangling wrangler]

I say, let the lazy #$@ks from the government just look up facebook accounts, if they want to be nosy.

We don't know "they're" not doing that as we speak.

[RoBoTeq]

They used to just come to your door and ask you how many lived in the household. Isn't that enough?
I say, let the lazy #$@ks from the government just look up facebook accounts, if they want to be nosy.
Who do you think runs Face Book and what it stands for?

Federal Agency for Collecting E-info Book.

[whec720]

Who do you think runs Face Book and what it stands for?

Federal Agency for Collecting E-info Book.

Knock themselves out. That's a lot of baby and drunken chicks passing out pictures to sift through. Your taxpayer dollars at work.:p

[J_SIN]

Who do you think runs Face Book and what it stands for?

Federal Agency for Collecting E-info Book.

did you forget the :rolleyes: ?

[RoBoTeq]

did you forget the :rolleyes: ?
No! That is what Face book really is:confused:

So, are you a resurrection of a past banned member or just not old enough to understand that newbies blasting their way onto a new site for them is not the best way to introduce themselves?

[acmanko]

No! That is what Face book really is:confused:

So, are you a resurrection of a past banned member or just not old enough to understand that newbies blasting their way onto a new site for them is not the best way to introduce themselves?

are you questioning SIN:eek:

[J_SIN]

No! That is what Face book really is:confused:

So, are you a resurrection of a past banned member or just not old enough to understand that newbies blasting their way onto a new site for them is not the best way to introduce themselves?

Facebook is privately owned. I highly doubt Russian investors would spend 200m on a Federal Agency in the US.

Never been on this site before sometime in the middle of this week. Not sure what you mean by "blasting my way" on to this site. If you're implying that you thought my question for you was rude in some way, that was not my intent. I just noticed in another thread that you mentioned to someone about not using the :rolleyes: smiley to show their sarcasm, and though you were being sarcastic in your reply about facebook, so I had to ask.

[RoBoTeq]

Facebook is privately owned. I highly doubt Russian investors would spend 200m on a Federal Agency in the US.

Never been on this site before sometime in the middle of this week. Not sure what you mean by "blasting my way" on to this site. If you're implying that you thought my question for you was rude in some way, that was not my intent. I just noticed in another thread that you mentioned to someone about not using the :rolleyes: smiley to show their sarcasm, and though you were being sarcastic in your reply about facebook, so I had to ask.
I was not being sarcastic. Silly? Yes, but not sarcastic.

Welcome aboard. Get you post count up to 15 and apply for professional membership.

[J_SIN]

Welcome aboard. Get you post count up to 15 and apply for professional membership.

eagerly awaiting my approval :D

[the dangling wrangler]

Who do you think runs Face Book and what it stands for?

Federal Agency for Collecting E-info Book.

I'm thinking, with as many firearms as I've bought in the past, the feds know more about me than my mom does.

[whec720]

I'm thinking, with as many firearms as I've bought in the past, the feds know more about me than my mom does.

The feds gather mega tons of information. Besides taxation and fees, they are good at it. They are not so good in organizing, sharing, and acting on that information. 9-11 exposed our inept government for what it is, weak and ineffective.

[acmanko]

on one thread you defend the Bush Administration and now on this thread you call it weak and ineffective. I do believe that would be considered a


flip-flop

[whec720]

on one thread you defend the Bush Administration and now on this thread you call it weak and ineffective. I do believe that would be considered a


flip-flop

No flip-flop. The Bush Admin., like the Clinton Admin. before, blew it big time with Islamic terrorism (WTC bombings in 93 and 01, for example). The information was out there to stop both attacks, but our government can never seem to get their ducks in one row, thus the observation, weak and ineffective.
The other thread you are referring to is on another totally different subject.
Nice try though, ace.;)

[acmanko]

No flip-flop. The Bush Admin., like the Clinton Admin. before, blew it big time with Islamic terrorism (WTC bombings in 93 and 01, for example). The information was out there to stop both attacks, but our government can never seem to get their ducks in one row, thus the observation, weak and ineffective.
The other thread you are referring to is on another totally different subject.
Nice try though, ace.;)

and a good answer, but you should be a little cautious when CYA. I'm always watching:rolleyes:

[whec720]

and a good answer, but you should be a little cautious when CYA. I'm always watching:rolleyes:

Hmmmm....didn't see moderator under your name. Don't flatter yourself.

[RoBoTeq]

Hmmmm....didn't see moderator under your name. Don't flatter yourself.
Mancow has long been suspected of being an undercover mod:confused:

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[whec720]

Mancow has long been suspected of being an undercover mod:confused:

http://images.buycostumes.com/mgen/merchandiser/21632.jpg?zm=130,130,1,0,0

LMAO....now that is funny!:D:D:D

[acmanko]

If I had that much hair, I'd truly be God's gift to women.:eek:

[the dangling wrangler]

LMAO....now that is funny!:D:D:D

Yep, funniest one this morning.

[Texas-Tech]

not sure if you know it or not but the census takers are coming to your door with hand held gps also. What a waste of time and money.

[RoBoTeq]

not sure if you know it or not but the census takers are coming to your door with hand held gps also. What a waste of time and money.
More government created jobs. Pretty soon all of us will be working for the government, just like all GM workers now do.

[Texas-Tech]

From what I've heard on talk radio they are a lot of acorn people doing it. The only jobs No-Bami has created are govt jobs. Go figure

[the dangling wrangler]

From what I've heard on talk radio they are a lot of acorn people doing it. The only jobs No-Bami has created are govt jobs. Go figure

Maybe that's where a few of the missing millions from acorn went. :rolleyes:

[acmanko]

From what I've heard on talk radio they are a lot of acorn people doing it. The only jobs No-Bami has created are govt jobs. Go figure

I listen to Rush for the comedy , as with all talk radio. You know it labels you as one of 11% of the country (those who believe everything talk radio says) who will suffer premature dementia:)

[Texas-Tech]

My thought is that if I only listen to the liberal media I will be as stupid and misinformed as about 75% of the population. I'm smart enough to make up my own mind on what I hear, do the research etc. I don't care what anyone may say Rush is a pretty smart man. People don't like his pompus attitude, I don't either but he is pretty much dead on.

[sline-dawg]

who will suffer premature dementia:)

And I thought it was this flu pandemic.....:)

[desto1]

I don't know him enough to not like him. I don't trust him though. just look at what he and the rest of the criminals,LEFT AND RIGHT has done since january.actions speak louder than words,it is not hard to "know him" and i dont like him or the majority of dems and pubs.this country is ruined and unfortunately we will proably never recover from the what the criminals in d.c have done.and most americans dont care, just as long as folks have a 6 pack of beer and a football game all is well....... right robo

[RoBoTeq]

just look at what he and the rest of the criminals,LEFT AND RIGHT has done since january.actions speak louder than words,it is not hard to "know him" and i dont like him or the majority of dems and pubs.this country is ruined and unfortunately we will proably never recover from the what the criminals in d.c have done.and most americans dont care, just as long as folks have a 6 pack of beer and a football game all is well....... right robo
I don't watch football and I prefer tequila over beer. Maybe time to move to Mexico.

[desto1]

mexico is not the answer, besides if the elite have their way mexico canada and the united states will be the north american union under the spp. a little research on the security peace and prosperity talks that took place with bush, vincinte fox and the leaders of canada will support my claims. and it will be easy to usher in when the dollar finishes its crash and burn. folks will be more than happy to take the amero when the fed and the rest of the bankers are done looting the late great US of A

[HVAC9900]

Back to the original thread(not that this other stuff isn't interesting, it is), I see no way they can possibly enforce a fine for not talking to them.Sounds like you will have to fight it though.

There is a private property issue, then to be compelled to give information to someone that is not an active duty police officer( who has to have a legitimate reason to ask), sounds a bit beyond what is legally required of a citizen.

[the dangling wrangler]

Back to the original thread(not that this other stuff isn't interesting, it is), I see no way they can possibly enforce a fine for not talking to them.Sounds like you will have to fight it though.

There is a private property issue, then to be compelled to give information to someone that is not an active duty police officer( who has to have a legitimate reason to ask), sounds a bit beyond what is legally required of a citizen.

That was all before the current administration. Remember the change people wanted? (not me)

[iron]

looks like I will be going to court
cause I have no intention of answering
those questions

[Evolutionizer]

Are they going to enforce this with all the illeagles? Doubt it. Why is it so difficult for our gov't to enforce illeagle regulations but will go after any and all natural citizens for not taking part in a stupid census? I hate to say it but the gov't regulations are so far out of hand it may be too late to ever recover. I would have never thought we would be forced tell them anything.

[windtunnel]

i live out in the middle of the woods far away from everything. last census i get home from work and a plain unmarked car with 2 g-men in suits are parked in front of the house.i had not answered the questions on the forms to their satisfaction.they demanded to go in the house and count the number of bedrooms and bathrooms. i told them to get a search warrant and get off my property.they left and sent some new tougher individuals out to demand entry again without a search warrant.they threatened me with fines if i didn't let them in my house. i told them also where to go! the next individuals made the same threats so i gave in and told them how many bedrooms and bathrooms i have but i refused to let them in my house. that was the end of the census experience for me. three harassing visits in the middle of nowhere to get information from me. i have no criminal record , born here,pay taxes,and mind my own business and was treated in this manner? sucks!

[jerryd_2008]

Interesting. I wonder if citizen Barack Hussein Obama will answer truthfully that he is multiracial or if he will continue his lie about being Black? Then there will be that "what religion" are you clause:rolleyes:.

Having done 5 or so special censuses between the 2000 Census and now, the census taker is not allowed to observe what race the person is as in past censuses (before 1990, I think). Obama would have a number of choices that he might make. The person must select from a list of racial descriptions what they consider themselves to be. One very annoying response was that many people can not differentiate, as hard as the census taker tried, between country and ethnicity. Dah! There's only white, black, red, yellow and Pacific Islander (not necessarily the exact description of the choices given).

Had a young lady from a specific South American country who was extremely offended by people trying to describe her as Hispanic. By the way Hispanic is NOT the same as Spanish.

[the dangling wrangler]

i live out in the middle of the woods far away from everything. last census i get home from work and a plain unmarked car with 2 g-men in suits are parked in front of the house.i had not answered the questions on the forms to their satisfaction.they demanded to go in the house and count the number of bedrooms and bathrooms. i told them to get a search warrant and get off my property.they left and sent some new tougher individuals out to demand entry again without a search warrant.they threatened me with fines if i didn't let them in my house. i told them also where to go! the next individuals made the same threats so i gave in and told them how many bedrooms and bathrooms i have but i refused to let them in my house. that was the end of the census experience for me. three harassing visits in the middle of nowhere to get information from me. i have no criminal record , born here,pay taxes,and mind my own business and was treated in this manner? sucks!

So, I guess there is some type of enforcement "they" can use. Whoda thunk it?

[jerryd_2008]

looks like I will be going to court
cause I have no intention of answering
those questions

Census workers are subject to some fine like $250,000 or more for discussing specific occupants. Many things are based on the census numbers and input like schools, old age stuff, Congressional Representatives, etc. Besides, don't you want your relatives to be able to see things about you after you are long gone. I believe that they just released the 1930 Census data.

PS: Did you know that they lost almost all of the Census data for 1890, I think.

[jerryd_2008]

Are they going to enforce this with all the illeagles? Doubt it. Why is it so difficult for our gov't to enforce illeagle regulations but will go after any and all natural citizens for not taking part in a stupid census? I hate to say it but the gov't regulations are so far out of hand it may be too late to ever recover. I would have never thought we would be forced tell them anything.

The Census Bureau is specifically forbidden from releasing the information gathered to any enforcement agency. Who would agree to answer questions if they could. Census workers are subject to heavy fines for releasing any information they gather or observe. They are even in a tough position if they observe illegal activities while doing their work other than crimes on the street.

The special Censuses I worked in hired translators for a number of foreign languages in order to collect data.

Remember, the Census data is anonymous and supports things like money for your kids schools, Mom and Dad who are retired, health care, etc.

[RoBoTeq]

The Census Bureau is specifically forbidden from releasing the information gathered to any enforcement agency. Who would agree to answer questions if they could. Census workers are subject to heavy fines for releasing any information they gather or observe. They are even in a tough position if they observe illegal activities while doing their work other than crimes on the street.

The special Censuses I worked in hired translators for a number of foreign languages in order to collect data.

Remember, the Census data is anonymous and supports things like money for your kids schools, Mom and Dad who are retired, health care, etc.
Hell, we have a president who has no respect for government secrets involving national security, you really think anything learned about us will be guaranteed safe?

[meoberry]

More government created jobs. Pretty soon all of us will be working for the government, just like all GM workers now do.

Are you kidding? Look at your pay check stub you are paying for the privelege of working for the government. They make the depts for us to pay for,:rolleyes:

[Richard Kletty]

Ill just pay the $100.
Desto... its ONE big... not OUR. I didnt make the mistake.

[whec720]

They changed the Census Bureau's name to ACORN. Don't worry....your information is safe.
Papiere, Bitte.:cool:

[meoberry]

just look at what he and the rest of the criminals,LEFT AND RIGHT has done since january.actions speak louder than words,it is not hard to "know him" and i dont like him or the majority of dems and pubs.this country is ruined and unfortunately we will proably never recover from the what the criminals in d.c have done.and most americans dont care, just as long as folks have a 6 pack of beer and a football game all is well....... right robo

You are right to call them criminals. They have violated their oath of office. Not to mention the Constitution on several occasions. They have no Constitutional right to bail out corporations with money that belongs to Americans. They have overstepped their authority. But who will prosecute????? When just about all of them are guilty.:eek::eek:

[meoberry]

Back to the original thread(not that this other stuff isn't interesting, it is), I see no way they can possibly enforce a fine for not talking to them.Sounds like you will have to fight it though.

There is a private property issue, then to be compelled to give information to someone that is not an active duty police officer( who has to have a legitimate reason to ask), sounds a bit beyond what is legally required of a citizen.

Fight the US government?? You have to be a multi millionare. The way the justice system is nowadays you only get as much justice as you can afford to pay for.:rolleyes:

[jerryd_2008]

i live out in the middle of the woods far away from everything. last census i get home from work and a plain unmarked car with 2 g-men in suits are parked in front of the house. ...

In turn, as a census worker with the final mandatory responsibility for contacting the occupant, I did NOT appreciate the several houses with signs "You Are Close Enough to Shoot". And it wasn't in "the middle of the woods" either.

Overall, if people gave us a chance to explain the need, they were quite approachable. The people I really felt sorry for were the older folks and single women who were very fearful of opening the door to even talk (we were told not to enter any homes but to stay at the door - nearly impossible when hospitable Asian Indians were the occupants).

We gave the tough cases to people I'll call "closers". One of the best closers we had in one census was a retired minister. I guess he had the people skills down, hey? Another one of the best closers in another census was a lady I called "bull dog". Don't know what she did but she got her done.

A husband and wife that worked for me volunteered to canvas the homeless camps. Now that was something. Don't think I would have done that. The ones I enjoyed were following up at the sorority houses at the campus. The fraternities were not as much fun and their houses didn't look exactly like the sororities either. Think I'll have my grandson join a sorority if he gets to college.

[meoberry]

The Census Bureau is specifically forbidden from releasing the information gathered to any enforcement agency. Who would agree to answer questions if they could. Census workers are subject to heavy fines for releasing any information they gather or observe. They are even in a tough position if they observe illegal activities while doing their work other than crimes on the street.

The special Censuses I worked in hired translators for a number of foreign languages in order to collect data.

Remember, the Census data is anonymous and supports things like money for your kids schools, Mom and Dad who are retired, health care, etc.

Yeah! It was also forbidden to use social security numbers for identification. See how that worked out.:rolleyes:

[jerryd_2008]

Yeah! It was also forbidden to use social security numbers for identification. See how that worked out.:rolleyes:

You should refuse to provide SS numbers unless the organization like a bank, employer, investments, etc. is required to report to the Federal Gov. for taxes, Medicare, etc. I worked at a company that wanted to use my SS # as a log on ID to the computer systems. I told them to go to ....

Of course you don't place your SS # on your personal checks any more, right? Many places ask for your SS #. Ask them why they need it and refuse if it seems bogus. Even when doing job applications, I recommend putting "Available upon job offer".

[meoberry]

You should refuse to provide SS numbers unless the organization like a bank, employer, investments, etc. is required to report to the Federal Gov. for taxes, Medicare, etc. I worked at a company that wanted to use my SS # as a log on ID to the computer systems. I told them to go to ....

Of course you don't place your SS # on your personal checks any more, right? Many places ask for your SS #. Ask them why they need it and refuse if it seems bogus. Even when doing job applications, I recommend putting "Available upon job offer".

Still your social security number was never supposed to be used for anything other than employement. :(

[Tool-Slinger]

Having done 5 or so special censuses between the 2000 Census and now, the census taker is not allowed to observe what race the person is as in past censuses (before 1990, I think). Obama would have a number of choices that he might make. The person must select from a list of racial descriptions what they consider themselves to be. One very annoying response was that many people can not differentiate, as hard as the census taker tried, between country and ethnicity. Dah! There's only white, black, red, yellow and Pacific Islander (not necessarily the exact description of the choices given).

Had a young lady from a specific South American country who was extremely offended by people trying to describe her as Hispanic. By the way Hispanic is NOT the same as Spanish.
I reported my race as 'American' in the last census.

BITE ME! :D


[Uncle Sam, not you jerry]

[Tool-Slinger]

In turn, as a census worker with the final mandatory responsibility for contacting the occupant, I did NOT appreciate the several houses with signs " ou Are Close Enough to Shoot". And it wasn't in "the middle of the woods" either.

Overall, if people gave us a chance to explain the need, they were quite approachable. The people I really felt sorry for were the older folks and single women who were very fearful of opening the door to even talk (we were told not to enter any homes but to stay at the door - nearly impossible when hospitable Asian Indians were the occupants).

We gave the tough cases to people I'll call "closers". One of the best closers we had in one census was a retired minister. I guess he had the people skills down, hey? Another one of the best closers in another census was a lady I called "bull dog". Don't know what she did but she got her done.

A husband and wife that worked for me volunteered to canvas the homeless camps. Now that was something. Don't think I would have done that. The ones I enjoyed were following up at the sorority houses at the campus. The fraternities were not as much fun and their houses didn't look exactly like the sororities either. Think I'll have my grandson join a sorority if he gets to college.
Very interesting jerry. So what if I live at a legal 'construction-site'.

I have no rooms, technically. I cannot get homeowners insurance and I cannot get a home loan. This is acreage. This is a tad like the old game show, " door number ONE!, door number TWO!!, or Door number THREE!!!!".

I have a door. I have a mailing address, same as 911 address. How do I answer such question as the pdf file I loosely linked earlier?

Can I just get a PO box# and avoid the hassle?

Maybe I should run away and join the circus? :D

[RoBoTeq]

I plan on filling out a form for each and every one of my personalities.

[Tool-Slinger]

I plan on filling out a form for each and every one of my personalities.
LOFL Robo, and when I get my form, guess what? My electricity breaks, water-line breaks, phone goes out, you get the idea,... it is a survey of the highest mis-information possible. Just like last time. Head-count, that is all.

[jerryd_2008]

Very interesting jerry. So what if I live at a legal 'construction-site'. :D

I know you guys are having some fun, but we were required to go to ANY place that could have residents, even those living in tents or in their car. Had to ask every business if there was anybody living on the premises. Yes, it is a head count. That's what determines things involving Federal money, Guys.

All of the censuses I worked on were "Special" between the 10 year census which means the towns involved actually paid the Census Bureau to perform them. The reason: Federal Money. This is serious $$$$ in a fast growing area.

Hope nobody got cranky with you. To my knowledge none of the people I worked with in two states and 5 towns from large to small (not real sure how "bull dog" got the info) ever got testy with occupants.

[jerryd_2008]

What part of "...shall not be infringed" dont you understand?

Richard, the Census is mandated by the Constitution. Maybe we should pick on Ben Franklin and Tom Jefferson and the rest of those rebels.

Again, I know that you guys are just blowing some steam after a hard day. Those Census workers make small $ and have to knock on strange doors all day - pit bulls, heard of people with guns, some really scary people and places that our female workers frequently handed off to the boss, etc. Right now there are probably a few people who would relish that job for 40 hours/week for maybe 6 months. I know I did it when I had no other income.

[Tool-Slinger]

I know you guys are having some fun, but we were required to go to ANY place that could have residents, even those living in tents or in their car. Had to ask every business if there was anybody living on the premises. Yes, it is a head count. That's what determines things involving Federal money, Guys.

All of the censuses I worked on were "Special" between the 10 year census which means the towns involved actually paid the Census Bureau to perform them. The reason: Federal Money. This is serious $$$$ in a fast growing area.

Hope nobody got cranky with you. To my knowledge none of the people I worked with in two states and 5 towns from large to small (not real sure how "bull dog" got the info) ever got testy with occupants.
Thanks for the reply Jerry, I am just a paranoid gun/bible-clinger so I naturally get worried over reports of census over extensions of duty.

Like you said, "just a head count" so no need to worry. Thank you for indulging my foolishness with a reply.

[jerryd_2008]

Thanks for the reply Jerry, I am just a paranoid gun/bible-clinger ...

Tool-Slinger, no problem. In fact I grew up with a couple of paranoid gun/(delete the bible part) clingers, but we all came from Michigan. I love guns too but we have some of the most interesting discussions mostly about what the right to bear arms means. Two against one. They usually try to kick my butt. The other favorite topics are religion and politics. Again two against one. Why do I always feel like I'm being picked on? Good thing we go back to 1st or 2nd grade or I would think they don't like me.

[acmanko]

Just fill out the damn papers and send them in, geez , what a bunch of wusses

[RoBoTeq]

Just fill out the damn papers and send them in, geez , what a bunch of wusses
Vee haf vays of making you sign zee papers:confused:

[windtunnel]

Just fill out the damn papers and send them in, geez , what a bunch of wusses

i filled out the dam papers and sent them in and that's when it all headed south:D can't wait to see what happens this time.i was not the harasser but the harassee from the nice guvmint folks.

[RoBoTeq]

I am going to give you all the best advice you will ever get for dealing with any government agency;

"Never give any government agency any information on you that they don't already know unless there is a direct and immediate monetary benefit for you to do so."

[desto1]

Ill just pay the $100.
Desto... its ONE big... not OUR. I didnt make the mistake. HA HA:)
thanks richard,i fixed that

[desto1]

Richard, the Census is mandated by the Constitution. Maybe we should pick on Ben Franklin and Tom Jefferson and the rest of those rebels.

Again, I know that you guys are just blowing some steam after a hard day. Those Census workers make small $ and have to knock on strange doors all day - pit bulls, heard of people with guns, some really scary people and places that our female workers frequently handed off to the boss, etc. Right now there are probably a few people who would relish that job for 40 hours/week for maybe 6 months. I know I did it when I had no other income.

it is required by the constitution for a head count per se, but divulging all of the other info that they want is not.it is not their buisiness how many bed rooms or toilets you have.or what you spend on household expenses. that is whole problem here. i dont think folks care about telling how many live in a house, it is all the other nosy crap that is nobodys business. and by the way,the right to bear arms is just that, the right to bear(carry,show or other wise have on your person). the right to keep means to have in your home or in your posession, to own and have. if you choose not to then that is your right,my right is not to be a victim,to criminals or tyrants,just as the founding fathers INTENDED