Who is an anti-Semite?

[royc]

Since Glenn got someones dander up mentioning someones duality, and got a real unrespectfull dressing down, by someone who thought jewry needed defending, and almost got called anti-semetic, I couldnt help but post this, cause its relevant.


Tom Sunic

May 23, 2009

Someday the word “anti-Semite” will be studied as an example of distorted political discourse — as a signifier attached to somebody who advocates the reign of demonology. How does one dare critically talk about the extraordinary influence the Jews in the West without running the risk of social opprobrium?

We certainly cannot expect that Jewish intellectuals will think critically about Jewish influence. As a French author Hervé Ryssen writes, “internationally-known Jewish authors, haunted by the either real or surreal specter of anti-Semitism, consider it a sickness, which enables them to avoid any form of introspection.”

While it is a commonplace for White Europeans and Americans to critically talk in private about Arabs, Mexicans, Africans or, for that matter, deride their fellow White citizens, a critical comment about the influence of Jews, even if founded on empirical facts, is viewed as an insult to Jews. If a serious European and American scholar or a politician ventures into this minefield, his gesture is interpreted as a sign of somebody who writes his obituary.

Such a schizophrenic climate of self-censorship in the West will sooner or later lead to dramatic consequences for both Jews and non-Jews. The lack of healthy dialogue can last for decades, but feigned conviviality between opposing groups cannot last forever. Mendacity carries the germ of civil war.

While many authors in the West sport staggering erudition in unabashedly challenging modern myths, the most sensitive point of reference of the twentieth century — Jewish influence — is carefully avoided. If the subject of Jews is ever brought up in a European or American public forum, it is in a laudatory fashion — a clear indication of the morbid desire of White ruling elites to curry favor with the Jews.

In the same vein, many intelligent White American and European racialists frequently decorate themselves with their “token Jews” in hopes of achieving some legitimacy in the mainstream media and seeking some camouflage in their opposition to non-European immigration or to various other myths of multicultural ideology. These individuals will likely be the first to declare themselves anti-Semites if the wind changes and critiques of Jewish influence become part of a new Zeitgeist.

The lack of open discussion about Jewish influence corroborates the thesis that Jews play a crucial role in opinion making in Western societies. True power shows itself by not being open to discussion. Hypothetically speaking, if Jews, by some miracle, were to play a marginal role in Europe or America — as they publicly claim they do, then logically, they would not object to being the subjects of critical discussion, or for that matter derision — just as it is legitimate to discuss the power of other groups. But Americans are far more likely to read books about the nefarious power of Christian conservatives or “white racism” than they are to hear about the far greater power of the organized Jewish community.

A common trait among many liberal Whites is intellectual servility — to look up to Jews as paragons of intelligence and moral rectitude. In the beginning of the 21st century there is no worse insult than qualifying a White politician or a White academic as an “anti-Semite.”

This intellectual servility of the Western political and academic class toward Jewry provides legitimacy to Jews in their endless search for a real or surreal anti-Jewish straw man. Organizations like the ADL trumpet even the most minor and deranged bit of anti-Semitism as heralding the next Holocaust.

The strange compound noun ‘anti-Semitism’ only gives Jews an additional alibi to project themselves as victims of prejudice. If anti-Semitism were non-existent it would have to be invented. The buzzword ‘anti-Semitism’ bestows upon the Jews a role of the moral and intellectual super-ego for White Europeans and Americans and by proxy for the entire world.

The frightened attitude of American and European intellectuals, who often extol the concept of “intellectual freedom,” is best seen in their schizoid attitude toward Jews. This was noted a long time ago by Wilmot Robertson, in his The Dispossessed Majority: “the pro-Semite has …made himself a mirror image of the anti-Semite.” The danger of this fatal embrace lies not with Jews, but with Whites. An American anti-Semite must appear in the eyes of Jews as a very bizarre species. On the one hand, he hates this alien Jew; yet on the other, he lugs behind himself the Levantine mindset of hatred toward outgroups that is not of European cultural origin.

A prominent Jewish-French politician and author, Jacques Attali, in his much acclaimed book Les Juifs, le monde et l’argent, writes: “As Russian Jews invented socialism, and as Austrian Jews invented psychoanalysis, American Jews in the forefront, participated in the birth of American capitalism and in the Americanization of the entire world.” Because he is Jewish, Attali can make such comments without incurring the wrath of the Jewish activist organizations. If a White racialist author made a similar comment, he or she would be immediately shouted down as an “anti-Semite.”

That is why when a Jewish author talks openly and critically about Judaism — especially the strong Jewish role in social and political affairs in the postmodern West, his prose will elicit awe and respect. His words may be sometimes met with apprehension and irritation by his fellow Jews, as witnessed by Norman Finkelstein or to some extent Noam Chomsky, but his words will nevertheless find their place in the ears and eyes of mainstream audience.

The Necessity of ‘Kulturvolk’

A Jewish author, preferably of liberal or leftist pedigree, who tackles this greatest taboo of all times, will have a safe passage to media success. Such is the case with the liberal Jewish-Russian-American scholar, Yuri Slezkine, whose research does not reveal anything new regarding the Jewish role in the ex-Soviet Union and elsewhere. Yet Slezkine has the privilege of saying what is forbidden to the goyim.

Slezkine notes that America, unlike Europe, with its relatively strong tribal allegiances, knew only “vestigial establishment tribalism.” From its inception, America was far more propitious for Jews than Europe; it became a laboratory of ideas for diverse multicultural and academic experiments — be they of infra-, intra-European, or extra-European nature. ”What Jewish intellectuals could not attain in Europe, or later in the Soviet Union, was at hand in America where Jewish power, economic status and cultural influence have increased dramatically since 1960.”

It should not come as a surprise that similar views about Jews were elaborated much earlier by many German scholars affiliated with the Institut zum Studium der Judenfrage in National Socialist Germany, but who for obvious reasons are squarely denounced as proverbial Nazis and anti-Semites. The Institute, whose director was Eberhard Taubert , had a large number of scholars whose goal was the detailed anthropological, political and psychological research of the Jewish question. Taubert, after WWII, was not purged but worked for a while for US intelligence. In passing, it is worth noting that unlike the English and the French language, the rich German language does not have a single vulgar or slang word for the word “the Jew” (“Jude”).

Many Jewish scholars are aware of the schizoid White European mentality. As Shmuel Trigano noted, while setting itself up as “new Israel,” the West recognized in Judaism a factual, if not a juridical jurisdiction over itself. And this boils down to saying that the West has become Jewish to the extent that for centuries it kept forbidding to Jews their own identity. It follows from this that the strange verbal construct “Judeo-Christianity” is an elusive oxymoron; it imprisons the West, which by its own act of submission accepts a different mindset — which is not its own.

One could argue that the West is subconsciously anti-Semitic to the extent that it has always yearned — be it in a theological or ideological fashion — to become Jewish. The thesis can be put forward that the West will cease to be obsessed with Jews and anti-Semitism once it leaves this neurosis, once it returns to its own local European traditions, and by stopping to be what it is not and allowing the “Other” to continue what he is.

What has been missing in the West, and particularly in America over the last 50 years is a strong sense of cultural identity. The German word Kulturvolk, stands for a rooted cultural and national community (and not just the adherence to White race), and it is a prerequisite for a sound White identity. In contrast to Germans, Russians, French, etc., the weak cultural identity among White elites in America was a major flaw among American nationalists, racialists and conservatives who, while being aware of Jewish influence, were unable to muster up cultural energy to counter it. However, with rapid racial changes in America there are signs that the common cultural identity among Whites in America is on the rise.

The feigned fraternity between the postmodern Euro-American “shabbos goyim” and American Jews is veiled in mendacity and mutual make-belief mimicry which can be spotted in the Western political establishment and the media at all times. It is too grotesque to last forever. Admittedly, it only gives rise to proverbial Jewish hubris which will continue to grow as long as it receives servile fodder from self-censored European academics and politicians.

Dr Tom Sunic ( www.tomsunic.info : http://doctorsunic.netfirms.com/ is a former US professor in political science, translator, author and former Croat diplomat. His latest book is Homo americanus; Child of the Postmodern Age. Email him.

[acmanko]

gee Roy, I read that article, which I rarely do because of lenght, and I will confess, most if not all of it can be linked to one word. paranoid

[Some Dude]

If you are refering to Glen stiff necked people statement, i dont think anyone has mentioned he was quoteing the Bible.

[Special Ed]

I've read enough. It reads like something Hitler would write. It never ceases to amaze me how errant perceptions are always repeated even after they've been proven false.

"Blame the jews for this & that, they secretly control everything, etc., etc. ...."

[engineerdave]

A good number of the fallen that we remember on this day, would disagree.

[bootlen]

Dr Tom Sunic ( www.tomsunic.info : http://doctorsunic.netfirms.com/ is a former US professor in political science, translator, author and former Croat diplomat.

You left off one title. Resident Idiot.

[newoldtech]

You left off one title. Resident Idiot.

Wow, your a better man than me, you made it to the bottom. :)

[coolwhip]

I've read enough. It reads like something Hitler would write. It never ceases to amaze me how errant perceptions are always repeated even after they've been proven false.

"Blame the jews for this & that, they secretly control everything, etc., etc. ...."

They don't secretly control everything, they blatantly control everything.:rolleyes:
Then they shovel common goyims horsesheit on a daily basis.
The end result is a nation of phuk dup idiots that dont know how to read and look toward the idiot box for all their answers.

Sounds like the USA to me.

[glennac]

Great post roy even if now you are being attacked by those who feel that you can criticize everyone in the world except the Jews. Not that the Jews are all that bad but they are all above all reproach in every thing they do or have ever done. That is the one super supreme taboo thing to do and it is never PC.

You may talk about conservatives, liberals, Christians, Hindus and Muslims (although we do need to talk about them a lot more in my opinion) but never about the Jews in anything except phrase and veneration. Thank you very much.

[RoBoTeq]

gee Roy, I read that article, which I rarely do because of lenght, and I will confess, most if not all of it can be linked to one word. paranoid
I don't really like admitting that I agree with you mancow, but I think you summed this one up pretty well. I'm not even sure what roy is going on about or who he is making references to. We all know that Glenn has a few, shall we say Southern/German quirks:rolleyes:. Glenn is still a good guy.

Maybe Glenn got his feeling hurt and asked roy to take up for him:cool:

[RoBoTeq]

Great post roy even if now you are being attacked by those who feel that you can criticize everyone in the world except the Jews. Not that the Jews are all that bad but they are all above all reproach in every thing they do or have ever done. That is the one super supreme taboo thing to do and it is never PC.

You may talk about conservatives, liberals, Christians, Hindus and Muslims (although we do need to talk about them a lot more in my opinion) but never about the Jews in anything except phrase and veneration. Thank you very much.
Liberal Jews suck. Homosexual Jews suck. Jews who commit crimes suck.

OK mr. whiner, now we've got it out in the open that Jews can be criticized just like anyone else can. Now what are you going blame things on?

It never ceases to amaze me how otherwise intelligent people can be so blatantly ignorant and downright stupid at times.

Jewish power in the U.S.? How many Jews have been president? Jews have all of the money? How many Jews are in charge of the largest banking industries in the U.S.?

Damn guys, you have just become downright pathetic.

The fact is that Glenn is the one who gets his panties in a wad if anyone mentions bad things about the KKK, which he sees nothing wrong with, or anything bad about anything that has to do with Germans. (Just so I don't get called names for this one, the two most important male role models for me growing up were my step-dad and my step-granddad, both of German descent.)

For crying out loud, are you two just bigots who like to start crap that isn't even there?

[royc]

Here is a just one quote right from the horses mouth, and if your interested I can post a few more.

"Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it." - Israeli Prime Minister, Ariel Sharon, October 3, 2001


Roy

[RoBoTeq]

Here is a just one quote right from the horses mouth, and if your interested I can post a few more.

"Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it." - Israeli Prime Minister, Ariel Sharon, October 3, 2001


Roy
Not that it matters much to me what Ariel Sharon has said about the U.S., but I just cannot find this quote from anywhere other then anti-Jewish websites, including but not confined to websites promoting White Supremists and one website promoting Louis Farrakan.

I gotta ask roy, are you just a bigot? I mean, don't get me wrong, I want your accusations to be true. If this stuff you are coming off with is true, then I'm on the right side of the power in this country and plan on taking full advantage of it:rolleyes:

[engineerdave]

If a man is a criminal, prosecute him. If a man is a good samaritan, buy him a beer. Does it really matter what that man looks like or who he calls God?

The fact that we are still discussing this issue disgraces our fallen. For shame.

[coolwhip]

Sharon would be correct in his assertion Roy. When one controls finance and the media, they control what the the people think and the dynamics of a nations economy.

The zionist tentacles are everywhere!:eek:

[RoBoTeq]

If a man is a criminal, prosecute him. If a man is a good samaritan, buy him a beer. Does it really matter what that man looks like or who he calls God?

The fact that we are still discussing this issue disgraces our fallen. For shame.
Agreed. In business I have found that the stereotypical Jew attitude applies to most persons of European or Asian immigration. It's just a different way of doing business. That does not mean these people are not wonderful family oriented people who live their lives just as anyone else does.

As for God, if it weren't for Jews, there would be no Jesus Christ.....or Mexicans named Jesus;)

[RoBoTeq]

Sharon would be correct in his assertion Roy. When one controls finance and the media, they control what the the people think and the dynamics of a nations economy.

The zionist tentacles are everywhere!:eek:
Once again, I would at least like to see where Sharon made this comment from a source that is not an anti-Jewish source. I don't like the term anti-semite because it refers to all semitic peoples and that would include most Middle Eastern and African peoples as well as Jews.

If we consider that 76% of the U.S. population consider themselves Christian and 1.4% consider themselves Jews, it would actually be quite a tribute to the Jews to have as much control as some claim. This, of course, is the exact complaint that Adolf Hitler had going into WWII. The idea is that during tough economic times, if a nation can confiscate the wealth of the most overtly prosperous minority by making claims that they are somehow the cause of a nations problems, that nation can play the Robin Hood card and justify even the most horrific of crimes agains humanity.

Of that 1.4% of Jews in the U.S., which is by the way in decline from the 1.8% of 2001, some are not even Jewish by faith. There is a growing Messianic Jewish faith that diminishes the percentage of American Jews who are not also Christians.

Jews have historically been a very disciplined race of people. Jewish homes I have worked on were a far cry from the homes those same Jews lived in for decades in order to save enough to get out the near ghetto's of Baltimore City. As one Jewish customer of mine told me; "Many cannot live as well as I live today because many would not have lived so badly as I have lived for so many years before." I wish I had that discipline.

So, maybe those 1.4% of American Jews do run the U.S. If so, we certainly must need their discipline in order to prosper the way we have. This does not mean that we don't also need to diminish the ultra-leftist atitude of Jews politically in order to maintain a society that disciplined finacial peoples have made so great. I believe this is called balance.

One last thought; if Jews run the U.S., just how did someone like Barack Hussein Obama, a man who has never done well getting along with Jews and is still at odds with Israeli leaders....get elected?

[RoBoTeq]

To address roy's original inquiry, which I find to be somewhat a disturbing one to entertain, an anti-semite would be someone who is overtly against any semitic person, but in today's language, more precisely a hater of Jews.

Claiming that in our PC world of today that Jews are the only race/religion whining about negative press is just silly. We certainly cannot say anything about Muslims in the heavily Jewish run media. What sense does that make if Jews are only out to protect Jews?

No, just as dark skinned people are easy targets to blame all of the nations crimes on (no, crime would not cease to exist if there were no dark skinned citizens), those with obvious Jewish names are easy targets to blame the decline of our society on.

I am doing my part in this matter by putting myself in a position where, like it or not, Jews have to invite me to family functions where I get to have my WASP influence on them;)

[acmanko]

I was always told that if all Catholics said the Rosary once a day , Russia would convert back to Christianity. Russia is nowChristian, with a lean to the Eastern Rite. That being said, if everyone would say a few Hail Mary's everyday, convert to Catholism and stop the Bible discussion, Pax Romano could thrive.

[RoBoTeq]

I was always told that if all Catholics said the Rosary once a day , Russia would convert back to Christianity. Russia is nowChristian, with a lean to the Eastern Rite. That being said, if everyone would say a few Hail Mary's everyday, convert to Catholism and stop the Bible discussion, Pax Romano could thrive.
And if you tap the heels of your shoes three times, you can go home again:rolleyes:

[acmanko]

And if you tap the heels of your shoes three times, you can go home again:rolleyes:

I just hate to see another faith get press time without equal time for the chosen:rolleyes:

[RoBoTeq]

I just hate to see another faith get press time without equal time for the chosen:rolleyes:
Of the 76% of American's who claim to be Christian, 25% are Catholic and the other 51% are Christians other then Catholic. I do believe the "chosen" are still the 1.4%.

[acmanko]

Of the 76% of American's who claim to be Christian, 25% are Catholic and the other 51% are Christians other then Catholic. I do believe the "chosen" are still the 1.4%.

God chose the Jewish Children of Abraham, Jesus Christ chose Peter, the Pope, God's word on Earth. Two choices make for chosen

[RoBoTeq]

God chose the Jewish Children of Abraham, Jesus Christ chose Peter, the Pope, God's word on Earth. Two choices make for chosen
Reminds me of a name for a mythical voyage; AC and the homerites:p

[acmanko]

Reminds me of a name for a mythical voyage; AC and the homerites:p

Now thats funny, since the homer part is handling the light work:eek:

[glennac]

I don't really like admitting that I agree with you mancow, but I think you summed this one up pretty well. I'm not even sure what roy is going on about or who he is making references to. We all know that Glenn has a few, shall we say Southern/German quirks:rolleyes:. Glenn is still a good guy.

Maybe Glenn got his feeling hurt and asked roy to take up for him:cool:

You are so full of BS robo it isn't funny. The only time I have ever talked to roy was on the open forum of ARP.

[glennac]

Liberal Jews suck. Homosexual Jews suck. Jews who commit crimes suck.

OK mr. whiner, now we've got it out in the open that Jews can be criticized just like anyone else can. Now what are you going blame things on?


Damn guys, you have just become downright pathetic.

The fact is that Glenn is the one who gets his panties in a wad if anyone mentions bad things about the KKK, which he sees nothing wrong with, or anything bad about anything that has to do with Germans. (Just so I don't get called names for this one, the two most important male role models for me growing up were my step-dad and my step-granddad, both of German descent.)

For crying out loud, are you two just bigots who like to start crap that isn't even there?

Robo you need your dirty mouth washed out with soap. You call me a whinner which I never whine. If I observe things then you call it whinning and when you say something it is insight. Now yhou are also calling me a bigot. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black you are the pathetic one here with your name calling mouth and ignorant comentary. I thing you have violated a score of rules here with your trash talking.

The fact that most Jews are liberals, socialists, and some commies in a much higher percentage than the general population is a fact and that is what I am refering too. Not anything else. I haven't had the chance to respond to your back stapping attacks on me till now. Thank you very much.

[sline-dawg]

You call me a whinner which I never whine.



That is some funny stuff.... Don't matter who you are......LMMFAO.....:D

[RoBoTeq]

That is some funny stuff.... Don't matter who you are......LMMFAO.....:D
Better watch yourself sline. I think we may be getting Glenn to the point where he will want to take us to "lynchburg"....if you get my drift:eek:

Good thing he can't really leap tall buildings with a single bound;



http://rexcurry.net/super_socialist_man_swastika.JPG



eh?:eek:

Hey Glenn! Just kidding:D

[homersodyssey]

It doesn't matter how many times I see it, I'm still shocked at how quickly and casually you drop the Nazi card, Robo. If your wife is a Jew then you should consider this insult the worst possible. What Nazis did to this world and your wife's race in particular was absolutely evil. Comparing them to anyone else should only be made with sober thought.

For all your other insults about people being "ultra-liberal" the only other group that drops the Nazi card as quickly as you do are the anarchist/communist protestors. Do you really want to associate yourself with people like this:

http://www.zombietime.com/hall_of_shame/

[RoBoTeq]

I know homer, you'd like it if we didn't acknowledge that some people behave like the Nazi's of WWII behaved just like you'd like if people would forget that Satan is with us at all times. That is why I denounce your thoughts.

What the hell makes you think you have any right telling me how I should behave because of my wife's heritage? According to you, you can't even go to the bathroom without the RCC giving you instructions on how to do so.

Unlike you homer, I prefer to discuss the evils of the world to keep them out in the open where they can be seen and realized for what they are. Do you know what giraffes do when one of them realizes they are being stalked by a cheetah? Now that cheetah, having been seen or not, can easily outrun at least one of the giraffe herd. But; when one giraffe spots the cheetah, it alerts all of the others to where the cheetah is. Then, instead of running for their lives, in which case the cheetah would be able to tell which one was slower and could easily run it down, the giraffes all look in the direction of the cheetah and stare at it. By acknowledging their enemy and keeping it in their sights, they cause the cheetah to give up and go away.

Evil is somewhat like that homer. When we recognize evil, we need to point it out and stare it down, not pretend it is not there and let it get the jump on us.

[RoBoTeq]

Also homer, I don't consider everyone who was a member of the Nazi party to be some rotten person. I have no doubt that there were more Nazi's who were appalled by what was being done then not. Unfortunately, it was difficult for good people to prevail during those horrid times, and so they just turned away and pretended the evil was not there.

Glenn is a big boy, homer. Glenn has a certain admiration for the KKK and even for Nazi Germany, and that is not as horrible a thing as our society tries to make us believe it is. There is little in this world that is either pure evil or pure good. There is good and evil in all of us. The good of people who belonged to evil organizations should not be denied just because the evil has been condemned.

So, keep trying to rally others against me homer. Those who you attempt to rally against me are like me in the fact that they too can see that there is good and evil in all. You just are having a hard time identifying which is good and which is evil, because you turn your back on what you do not want to acknowledge.

[bootlen]

You call me a whinner which I never whine.

(Cough, cough, cough, hack, choke, wheeze, choke, choke.)

No, no. I'll be okay. Just give me a moment to recover.

[royc]

Robo you need your dirty mouth washed out with soap. You call me a whinner which I never whine. If I observe things then you call it whinning and when you say something it is insight. Now yhou are also calling me a bigot. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black you are the pathetic one here with your name calling mouth and ignorant comentary. I thing you have violated a score of rules here with your trash talking.

The fact that most Jews are liberals, socialists, and some commies in a much higher percentage than the general population is a fact and that is what I am refering too. Not anything else. I haven't had the chance to respond to your back stapping attacks on me till now. Thank you very much.

Let it go Glenn, there is no point in arguing with ignorance and bigotry. Maybe in about 10 years they will figure it out, but I doupth it, the main stream media has got too good of a hold on peoples opinion today, and the Zionists agenda will continue untill this country will be in the same shape as Europe is today, "Free Speech ist Verboten, Und Arbeit Macht Dich Frei".

I have to laugh when the name Hitler and Nazies is constandly bandit about, as though they realy knew anything about it, exept for what the propaganda machine told them. But lets not mention the Japaneese internment caps in this country, or that thousands of german prisoners died in american concentration camps. Considering we have so much information at our fingertips, it amazes me that such trash is still considered truth.

I try not to get too involved in these kind of conversation, because I'm aware that since I was born in WW2 germany with a swastika on my birth certificate, I would be suspect of being anti semitic and a nazi symphatizer by shear association, whether its true or not.

I'm sorry I even posted that article, for I thought it was a given who has control in high positions. The main reason I posted it was the mentioning of the "Judea-Christian" identity claim, when that word is an oxymoron.

Roy

[RoBoTeq]

OK roy, how is Judeo-Christian an oxymoron? This should be really good, so everyone stock up on popcorn and drinks:rolleyes:

[RoBoTeq]

Roy and Glenn; do you consider yourselves to be Christians? Not a trick question and should not be to tough to answer. Be as detailed or not, as you want to be.

[bananaboy]

just wondering robo - why the hell do you think you have the right to tell people ... never mind.

[acmanko]

just wondering robo - why the hell do you think you have the right to tell people ... never mind.

I told him he had rights, and he believed me.:D

[RoBoTeq]

just wondering robo - why the hell do you think you have the right to tell people ... never mind.
Typical. You thought you had a thought but then......it was gone:rolleyes:

[RoBoTeq]

I told him he had rights, and he believed me.:D
What would someone with only left thinking know about rights?;)

[acmanko]

What would someone with only left thinking know about rights?;)

tell me, you think you got the right

[RoBoTeq]

tell me, you think you got the right
Of course. Since you are usually wrong, the only thing left is me being right.

[acmanko]

Of course. Since you are usually wrong, the only thing left is me being right.

wrong, you could not be left with right:rolleyes:

[bananaboy]

Here is a just one quote right from the horses mouth, and if your interested I can post a few more.

"Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it." - Israeli Prime Minister, Ariel Sharon, October 3, 2001


Roy

1. robo, if you can not handle the truth, go to your corner and whimp ...

2. [QUOTE=RoBoTeq;3415012]Once again, I would at least like to see where Sharon made this comment from a source that is not an anti-Jewish source..." dream on robo.

3. suggestion to you robo, check the words "denial" , "delusional" and "hypocrite" in the Dictionary. Perhaps you will find some resemblance.
4. and stop insulting other members of this wonderful site just because they do not share your twisted beliefs. You do not have the right to do so. Perhaps it is time for the MODS to do something about the insults.

[glennac]

It appears that one cannot post a disagreement with robo on this forum without being slandered and falsely charged by said robo. Cut me some slack here robo.

1. As to the claim that I have admiration for the Klan. I have never indicated that I have admiration for the "Klan". I have said that back in the 40's and 50's where I grew up the local "Klan" there did do a good job of keeping rift raft and bad folks in line and I am referring mostly to "Whites". Without going into the past posts they did whip wife beaters, ran rouges out of town who did stuff like get a girl pregnant and didn't do the right thing by marrying her, and so on. They left the Blacks mostly alone because they sure weren't causing any "trouble" back then.

In reality there is no such thing as the "Klan" other than the original KKK. The local Klan where I grew up was part of the Dixie Klan. There were also the United Klan of Am., the White Knights of the KKK and so forth and so on. I don't admire them other than the original Klan and the old Dixie Klan.

I also think that the original Klan saved the South from being utterly destroyed by the carpetbaggers, scallywags, federal troops and the "Reconstruction" anti South governments back then. Southerners who fought for the South were denied the right to vote by the "Reconstruction" governments and it was a rebellion for sheer survival back then. This was taught in the history books in the South up until the radicals gained control of the schools in the late 60's and all references to persecution of White Southerners was removed from the new PC "social studies" books in schools. That was and is the extent of my "admiration" for the Klan.

2. I have also never said that I admire the "Nazis". I have defended Germany especially from false charges which are everyday printed by our commie loving press. That is a far stretch from saying that I "admired" the Nazis.

I would love to see some posts proving the false charges.

3. Now another comment. Robo insinuates that I am not a Christian and apparently wants to debate that point. Well I was baptised a Christian and I have always been. I am a Baptist in a non afilitated Baptist Church. In years past I went to a Methodist Church. I don't go to church every Sunday. At least once or twice a month and that is a lot more than you go robo which is never. I don't go to Bible study and let my wife read scriptures and quote it for me. I didn't know you had the memorize the Bible to go to heaven anyhow. I believe the Jesus Christ is our Savior and that only through him can you go to heaven.

I now wish to say that I hope the unprovoked attacks against my character fade away since I don't have time to defend myself all the time. Thank you very much.

[acmanko]

now that is a good butt chewing, full of History and testimonials

[glennac]

now that is a good butt chewing, full of History and testimonials

Thanks there ace. You know when most folks answer posts disagreeing with them they state their case and show where the disagreeing poster might be wrong if they have a case to argue but not robo. He just slanders the poster with an attack on their character repeatably and non stop. That is foul and should not be permitted. Thank you very much.

[RoBoTeq]

1. robo, if you can not handle the truth, go to your corner and whimp ...

2. [quote=RoBoTeq;3415012]Once again, I would at least like to see where Sharon made this comment from a source that is not an anti-Jewish source..." dream on robo.

3. suggestion to you robo, check the words "denial" , "delusional" and "hypocrite" in the Dictionary. Perhaps you will find some resemblance.
4. and stop insulting other members of this wonderful site just because they do not share your twisted beliefs. You do not have the right to do so. Perhaps it is time for the MODS to do something about the insults.
So, there is still no reasonable or rational source for this comment being made by Sharon. Just more hateful rhetoric and useless banter:rolleyes:

Funny, I always liked Banana Man. Then again, he was not the brightest bulb on the tree either:p

[RoBoTeq]

It appears that one cannot post a disagreement with robo on this forum without being slandered and falsely charged by said robo. Cut me some slack here robo.

1. As to the claim that I have admiration for the Klan. I have never indicated that I have admiration for the "Klan". I have said that back in the 40's and 50's where I grew up the local "Klan" there did do a good job of keeping rift raft and bad folks in line and I am referring mostly to "Whites". Without going into the past posts they did whip wife beaters, ran rouges out of town who did stuff like get a girl pregnant and didn't do the right thing by marrying her, and so on. They left the Blacks mostly alone because they sure weren't causing any "trouble" back then.

In reality there is no such thing as the "Klan" other than the original KKK. The local Klan where I grew up was part of the Dixie Klan. There were also the United Klan of Am., the White Knights of the KKK and so forth and so on. I don't admire them other than the original Klan and the old Dixie Klan.

I also think that the original Klan saved the South from being utterly destroyed by the carpetbaggers, scallywags, federal troops and the "Reconstruction" anti South governments back then. Southerners who fought for the South were denied the right to vote by the "Reconstruction" governments and it was a rebellion for sheer survival back then. This was taught in the history books in the South up until the radicals gained control of the schools in the late 60's and all references to persecution of White Southerners was removed from the new PC "social studies" books in schools. That was and is the extent of my "admiration" for the Klan.

2. I have also never said that I admire the "Nazis". I have defended Germany especially from false charges which are everyday printed by our commie loving press. That is a far stretch from saying that I "admired" the Nazis.

I would love to see some posts proving the false charges.

3. Now another comment. Robo insinuates that I am not a Christian and apparently wants to debate that point. Well I was baptised a Christian and I have always been. I am a Baptist in a non afilitated Baptist Church. In years past I went to a Methodist Church. I don't go to church every Sunday. At least once or twice a month and that is a lot more than you go robo which is never. I don't go to Bible study and let my wife read scriptures and quote it for me. I didn't know you had the memorize the Bible to go to heaven anyhow. I believe the Jesus Christ is our Savior and that only through him can you go to heaven.

I now wish to say that I hope the unprovoked attacks against my character fade away since I don't have time to defend myself all the time. Thank you very much.
WOW! Glenn, you just posted a lot of support for what I commented on about you. You just posted support for both the KKK and the Nazi regime. Not that I think that every aspect of either of these hate organizations was particular bad, but the overall actions of both of these organizations must be put in the "not good for society" catagory.

I don't recall ever insinuating you are not a Christian Glenn. If I have, I apologize. However, I have a feeling that you have once again read into my postings what is not there.

Oh, and just for the record, you are whining again.

[RoBoTeq]

now that is a good butt chewing, full of History and testimonials
Well, if anyone knows about butt munching.....;)

[RoBoTeq]

Thanks there ace. You know when most folks answer posts disagreeing with them they state their case and show where the disagreeing poster might be wrong if they have a case to argue but not robo. He just slanders the poster with an attack on their character repeatably and non stop. That is foul and should not be permitted. Thank you very much.
For crying out loud Glenn, you and Roy have been posting racially hateful posts throughout this thread and you feel that you are the one who is being attacked?

You are not only a whiner, you are a blind whiner who only thinks of his own feelings while being totally ignorant of the feelings of others.

If you can't take the heat, then stop fanning the fire.

[coolwhip]

I think Robo is an anti dentite.:D

[RoBoTeq]

I think Robo is an anti dentite.:D
Does anyone really like dentists?

[coolwhip]

Does anyone really like dentists?

Ahhh hah!...I knew it!:eek::D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ythrdCsOFJU

[glennac]

WOW! Glenn, you just posted a lot of support for what I commented on about you. You just posted support for both the KKK and the Nazi regime. Not that I think that every aspect of either of these hate organizations was particular bad, but the overall actions of both of these organizations must be put in the "not good for society" catagory.

I don't recall ever insinuating you are not a Christian Glenn. If I have, I apologize. However, I have a feeling that you have once again read into my postings what is not there.

Oh, and just for the record, you are whining again.

You don't understand plain English robo.

1. I said I thought the local Klan where I grew up did good back in the 40's and 50's and so did the original Klan after the civil war. That was no blanket endorsement of the Klan of today or yesterday and if you can read that into my statement you are crazy.

2. Please tell me where I have approved, admired or defended the Nazis. Never have, I have just defended Germany but you hate all Germans apparently and consider defending Germany and Germans defending Nazis. You are extremely prejudiced not me.

3. "Roy and Glenn; do you consider yourselves to be Christians? Not a trick question and should not be to tough to answer. Be as detailed or not, as you want to be." In that post you insinuated that I may not be a Christian otherwise why ask since I have previously stated several times in different posts and threads that I am a Christian.

So where is the proof that I admire the "Klan" per say or the Nazis in anyway. Please post any quotes from me to prove you point. You cannot because I never have. I expect an apology from you or evidence that I have done as you so falsely charged. The ball is in your court. Thank you very much. And stop the personal attacks on every post you have about me also.

[RoBoTeq]

You don't understand plain English robo.

1. I said I thought the local Klan where I grew up did good back in the 40's and 50's and so did the original Klan after the civil war. That was no blanket endorsement of the Klan of today or yesterday and if you can read that into my statement you are crazy.

2. Please tell me where I have approved, admired or defended the Nazis. Never have, I have just defended Germany but you hate all Germans apparently and consider defending Germany and Germans defending Nazis. You are extremely prejudiced not me.

3. "Roy and Glenn; do you consider yourselves to be Christians? Not a trick question and should not be to tough to answer. Be as detailed or not, as you want to be." In that post you insinuated that I may not be a Christian otherwise why ask since I have previously stated several times in different posts and threads that I am a Christian.

So where is the proof that I admire the "Klan" per say or the Nazis in anyway. Please post any quotes from me to prove you point. You cannot because I never have. I expect an apology from you or evidence that I have done as you so falsely charged. The ball is in your court. Thank you very much. And stop the personal attacks on every post you have about me also.
It's amazing how your mind deciphers things said to you completely differently then it deciphers things you say to others Glenn.

In no way does my asking if you or roy consider yourselves to be Christian insinuate that I don't believe you are Christians. I even went so far as to specify that it was a question to be taken only on its own merits and that there was no trickery. Yet you still go off on some wild persecution complex rant claiming I insinuated that you were not a Christian. I'd still like an answer to that simple question by the way.

If you are going to go away crying if I don''t apologize to you, you may as well start walking. I have no idea what it is I am supposed to apologize to you for. I guess I could apologize for your taking what I posted about you completely wrong, but that would actually be me apologizing for your actions, not mine.

Now you are acting just like some wimpy liberal by telling me not to respond to your hateful posts about others by claiming I attack you. I don't attack you Glenn, I respond to what you post. You drew first blood on this very thread by posting how roy is so right in his bigoted, racist commentaries and how those who opposed what roy posted are just Jew loving hypocrites. Hell Glenn, you accused me of only having an opinion of the Jewish race based on my wife being Jewish. Do you have any idea how insulting that is? Obviously not.

Glenn, if you don't post racial posts, I won't respond to them with what you so wimpilly call attacks on you. Otherwise Glenn, grow a set and be able to take as good as you give.

OH wait, I forgot to make it all ok with a :D and a "Just kidding".

[acmanko]

and Robo bites back. somebody pop the popcorn:eek:

[coolwhip]

Gotta watch out for them jewz...they know jewjitsu!:eek:
They are also known for hurling giant matzo balls at the gentiles.:D

http://g.imagehost.org/0383/JewJitsu.jpg

[glennac]

It's amazing how your mind deciphers things said to you completely differently then it deciphers things you say to others Glenn.

In no way does my asking if you or roy consider yourselves to be Christian insinuate that I don't believe you are Christians. I even went so far as to specify that it was a question to be taken only on its own merits and that there was no trickery. Yet you still go off on some wild persecution complex rant claiming I insinuated that you were not a Christian. I'd still like an answer to that simple question by the way.

If you are going to go away crying if I don''t apologize to you, you may as well start walking. I have no idea what it is I am supposed to apologize to you for. I guess I could apologize for your taking what I posted about you completely wrong, but that would actually be me apologizing for your actions, not mine.
Now you are acting just like some wimpy liberal by telling me not to respond to your hateful posts about others by claiming I attack you. I don't attack you Glenn, I respond to what you post. You drew first blood on this very thread by posting how roy is so right in his bigoted, racist commentaries and how those who opposed what roy posted are just Jew loving hypocrites. Hell Glenn, you accused me of only having an opinion of the Jewish race based on my wife being Jewish. Do you have any idea how insulting that is? Obviously not.

Glenn, if you don't post racial posts, I won't respond to them with what you so wimpilly call attacks on you. Otherwise Glenn, grow a set and be able to take as good as you give.

OH wait, I forgot to make it all ok with a :D and a "Just kidding".

Your just pure sick through and through that's all I can say. You twist everything ever said. I never said a thing about your wife and as I said again she could have been Christian for all I knew with a Jewish back ground. Roy's comments were not racists at all. Once someone disagrees with you then you throw *** back at them. and do I consider myself a Christian. How many times do I have to answer that before you can hear it. Again I am a Christian now that is the simple answer to your insulting question once again. Are you a Christian? Why don't you join a church like everyone else instead of attacking other Christians who happen to go to church. Thank you very much.

Again stop your continuous unprovoked personal attacks on me.

[bananaboy]

twisting the truth is robo's trade mark of getting out of difficult situation for him.

putting words in your mouth, inventing the non-existent text and on and on and on ....


remember the Centuries old adage ... " the best defense is the offense ..."

so, power ahead robo, God is watching you.

[RoBoTeq]

Gotta watch out for them jewz...they know jewjitsu!:eek:
They are also known for hurling giant matzo balls at the gentiles.:D

http://g.imagehost.org/0383/JewJitsu.jpg
Oh, don't get me started:cool:

Too late;

What's the difference between karate and Judo?

Karate is a form of martial arts and Judo is what you make bagels out of.......pa-dummm

And then there is; The Hebrew Hammer

http://www.bangitout.com/images/hebrewhammer1.jpg

[RoBoTeq]

... You twist everything ever said. I never said a thing about your wife and as I said again she could have been Christian for all I knew with a Jewish back ground......
OMG! You never said anything about my wife but what you said was......do you even read what you write:rolleyes::D



Just kidding:rolleyes:

[RoBoTeq]

twisting the truth is robo's trade mark of getting out of difficult situation for him.

putting words in your mouth, inventing the non-existent text and on and on and on ....


remember the Centuries old adage ... " the best defense is the offense ..."

so, power ahead robo, God is watching you.
You still here, boy?

http://www.bananaboyfans.com/images/BananaBoy.jpg