Help what AC & Gas furnace to go with York 98% affinity modulating or Amana 96% vary?

[justinws6ta]

Well i only have a few days before rebates are gone here in PA, near philly. i need to know amana or york?

I am replacing my heat and ac, so far the top guys and quotes are this.

installed york affinity 98% gas furnace modulating, also a 2 ton 14.5 seer lattitude condensor with 2.5 ton cased coil. 13.95 eer rating, and a high 16 seer due to the higher 2.5 ton coil brings efficency up higher.

installed amana 96% gas furnace variable speed, a 2 ton ac 16 seer condensor with 2 ton coil. eer is in the 12's i believe. Amana guy keeps saying lifetime stainless steel heat exchanger and on an on.

I just dont know what to do, becuase they are both different. i plan to stay in my house 5 to 6 years and no more.

thanks!!!

[spymoocow]

please remove your prices...they kinda get mad about it.

[mrs reb77]

You also shouldn't post the same thing in two different places.

Please read the rules you agreed to when you signed up.

[justinws6ta]

sorry about that can i remove the prices somehow i am new to the boards.

and i wasnt sure where to put this.

any help is greatly appreciated,

[beenthere]

Prises are not discussed here.

I deleted the prices, and your duplicate post.

[RyanHughes]

I assume the York is a variable speed furnace as well? Make sure they're quoting 2-stage thermostats, preferably Honeywell's IAQ/VisionPRO. I'm not sure the York needs one actually (beenthere can let us know), but I know the Amana does--for best staging and comfort. I'd tend to favor the York for the mod furnace and high efficiency ratings. You'll qualify for the tax credit with a 95+ AFUE furnace with either one ($1500/30% installed cost).

[beenthere]

York mod uses a single stage stat.

If he gets the VS version of the mod. Then the IAQ is worthwhile for its blower control in cooling mode.

[justinws6ta]

i have the honeywell vision pro dual stage heat and ac stat already, touch screen.

As for the York here are part number its the affinity modulating variable speed furnace yp9c060b12mp11 98% afue 60,000 btu
comes with electrostatic cleaner and drip pan with wetswitch too, the ac is a 2 ton lx series 14.5 seer ycjf24s41s1 24,000 btu 13.95 eer and 17 seer since he has it with the 2.5 ton coil ce30d4417w1txv cased.


As for the Amana setup it is the asx160241 16 seer 2 stage condesor 24,000 btu 2 ton. the furnace is the 45,000 btu 96% 2 stage variable speed natural gas furnace amv90453bxa and cased coil chpf3636b (no electrostatic filter and no drip pan or wet switch)

It is not really about the price, its best energy efficency for me here in PA north of philly. It is a 2 story town house end unit about 1600 sq foot and house is airtight and insulated to hilt.

[spymoocow]

Just from my experience with it and the parts loyalty around here on them, I would do the york. Overall I believe the energy savings would be greater and the efficency will definitely be higher with the york.

[badtlc]

It is not really about the price, its best energy efficency for me here in PA north of philly. It is a 2 story town house end unit about 1600 sq foot and house is airtight and insulated to hilt.

Depending on the coils, the York does offer better efficiencies.

[jerryd_2008]

I assume the York is a variable speed furnace as well? Make sure they're quoting 2-stage thermostats, preferably Honeywell's IAQ/VisionPRO.

Can beenthere say if the Honeywell thermostat is considered a "York Thermostat" as required for the York Enhanced Premium System rebate? Also does the 80% VS modulating furnace satisfy that rebate? It is an ECM furnace.

Related question is whether an 18 SEER Affinity heat pump will satisfy (with the appropriate SEER, EER, HSPF) energy credit requirements even with the less efficient 80% furnace? Typically would a 4-ton HP portion of the install make the 30% * $5,000 or $1,500 maximum credit? Would one need to have the contractor itemize the HP and furnace portions to ensure the credit?

[beenthere]

The vision pro 8000 series is.
Haven't seen an IAQ listed yet though.

Neither the YZE, or YZH 4 ton HP are listed as qualfying for the tax credit when paired with any furnace.

[jerryd_2008]

Neither the YZE, or YZH 4 ton HP are listed as qualfying for the tax credit when paired with any furnace.

Thanks beenthere.

I have seen the YZH04811 on the AHRI site and York's own tax credit certificate but there is no furnace listed. Doesn't list air handler either, I believe. I do need a furnace for dual fuel. What does that mean?

Hate to get down to all of these parameters, coils, combinations, etc. but they seem critical to credits. Is the "Systems" coil listed with the YZH04811 considered a "York Coil"?

[beenthere]

Superior coils are accepted also.

[jerryd_2008]

Superior coils are accepted also.

beenthee, are ADP coils also acceptable for the York premium rebate? According to the ARI web site there are YZH04811 (4 ton, high-end HP) units that meet the tax credit requirements with a Y*(8,L)C*C20 furnace. I have a hard time going between York's models and the ARI designations. Is that furnace a york 8.C with ECM motor and does that qualify for the premium rebate?

[beenthere]

YP8C is a mod with VS blower.

Don't know if the ADP coils meet York rebate requirements.

I don't use them.

[jerryd_2008]

YP8C is a mod with VS blower.

Don't know if the ADP coils meet York rebate requirements.

I don't use them.

beenthere, is that a question that a contractor would have to clear through the manufacturer or distributor? Is asking that question a big deal?

Maybe this already exists but it eems like the AHRI certification process needs to come with easy to understand instructions and rules for use.

[beenthere]

Your contractor can ask his distributor, or call and ask York.

York would be the best to ask. They're the ones writing the rebate check.