Another completed Geo

[millerman]

Homeowner building his own home. Did the main electrical and water heaters also. He didn't do too bad however, the electrical could have been a bit nicer. The coffee can is catching the drip from his gauge that was hand tight :rolleyes:. Oh well, really nice people and they did a nice job on the home (they still have a ways to go). Stopped in to light off the hot water assist and all is working very well.

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No, it's not duct board, just well insulated metal ;)

[aaronforprez]

it looks nice.

the only things that i have my guys do different are insulating the desuperheater lines as they can get hot hot. homeowners in shorts like to bump against them as they admire your work.
also i would have turned the pump pack "upside-down" to keep the hoses from doing a loopty-loop.

tell us a bit about the loops field and the accessories you used,

thanks!

[1coolguy]

uh...... wow!
we don't do much geo in south texas. looks cool. good job!

[millerman]

it looks nice.

the only things that i have my guys do different are insulating the desuperheater lines as they can get hot hot. homeowners in shorts like to bump against them as they admire your work.
also i would have turned the pump pack "upside-down" to keep the hoses from doing a loopty-loop.

tell us a bit about the loops field and the accessories you used,

thanks!

The Desuperheater lines will be insulated, the homeowner wanted to be sure he had no leaks when we fired it off. The only problem I have with flipping the pump pack is that in the event of a leak (heaven forbid) the electrical would be underneath to catch water. I don't like the loop that the hose kit does, I have tried in vain to find 1" brass barbed 90's. The ground loop is 600 feet start to end with 3-3/4 lines totaling 1800 feet of line into an 1-1/4 inch header. We ran the trench 5 feet deep with 1' separation on each line. The unit is a Climate master Tranquility 27 variable speed 2-stage with a Honeywell 2-zone system with vision pro stats.

[Amechanical]

uh...... wow!
we don't do much geo in south texas. looks cool. good job!

same here in our area, anyways it looks great

[pilotlight]

same here in our area, anyways it looks great

X2

[aaronforprez]

i could be wrong with this type of pump pack (we use a B&D stand pipe system with integrated grunfus pumps) but you should be able to take the 4 allen screws out of the pump motor and turn the motors 180 degrees to remedy the water in the electrical box situation. we have done this before to get the electrical connections to point in a nicer direction. when you pump water down a grunfus pump will appear upside down - so we turn the motor 180 degrees to keep the lines going up and lines going down looking uniform. call me crazy.

[millerman]

i could be wrong with this type of pump pack (we use a B&D stand pipe system with integrated grunfus pumps) but you should be able to take the 4 allen screws out of the pump motor and turn the motors 180 degrees to remedy the water in the electrical box situation. we have done this before to get the electrical connections to point in a nicer direction. when you pump water down a grunfus pump will appear upside down - so we turn the motor 180 degrees to keep the lines going up and lines going down looking uniform. call me crazy.

Hmmmm. I see where your going. Must investigate. A little late however, we have several in the works and this would be a good time to check that out. Thanks for the tip. If it proves well we'll make the change on this one too.

[daytonafan]

Good looking job. No pad under unit? Vibration isolaters??

[local553]

job looks good never messed with geo. around here there are a few. central illinois. i've heard costly to put in woundering if pay back is really worth it. also are you piping water heaters in series cannot tell in picture.

[millerman]

Good looking job. No pad under unit? Vibration isolaters??
Kind of hard to tell, we use rubber mats under the whole unit.

[2hot2coolme]

I'm very curious to know what the monthly cost is to run those systems during peak times...have any idea?

[aaronforprez]

job looks good never messed with geo. around here there are a few. central illinois. i've heard costly to put in woundering if pay back is really worth it. also are you piping water heaters in series cannot tell in picture.

with the federal government tax credit of 30% of the installed price, payback isn't a concern.

i figure an average changeout to cost 16,000. take 30% as a tax credit and a couple thousand from your utility company - you can't go wrong paying 9,500 for a dollar a day heating and cooling.

just my opinion.

[local 832s]

Electrical tape on the insulation:confused: Use glue. Other wise looks great.

[millerman]

Electrical tape on the insulation:confused: Use glue. Other wise looks great.

Don't quite like that myself.

[dmaxbury1]

i just started installing the climatemaster tranq. and im a big fan. i usually install water furnace but ive been getting a better deal on the climatemaster lately, and im beginning to like the looks better than the water furnace. and as stated earlier with the tax credits you cant beat a geo!!

[millerman]

i just started installing the climatemaster tranq. and im a big fan. i usually install water furnace but ive been getting a better deal on the climatemaster lately, and im beginning to like the looks better than the water furnace. and as stated earlier with the tax credits you cant beat a geo!!

True. What region are you in?

[dmaxbury1]

Dayton Ohio Ive done 6 this year already, 5 were new construction and 1 was a retro fit, they are deff. getting to be alot more common

[millerman]

We just started a retro today. Running the loop today, excavator found another spring however, we were right behind him and the boys got a little muddy but that's it. Had we waited it would have been another pump out, I'll send some pics.

This is the pump out last year;

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This is today, just a baby spring;

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This excavator is good!
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[gravity]

we use water furnace products. i dont know about those units but with water furnace u can use pvc pipe from the pump to the unit then we added some rubber hose for vibration. i'd check into it pvc looks so much cleaner

[bps916]

Wow that brings back memories-been in many muddy geo trenches..Even bought a pair of hip waders for the real nasty ones.Thats some backbreaking work rolling out geopipe for hundreds of feet.I tried to use poly pipe inside,especially for really long runs,but pvc is definitely faster and neater,and allows for a much tighter fit.I agree with a previous poster,you have to use glue.Black duct tape and electrical tape always falls off..sometimes I would use that black foam tape(glued down)to cover seams.After a while I got pretty good with that nomaloc insulation-you use the cutting guide right on the box.Sometimes I miss geo work

[farbeondriven]

Hmmmm. I see where your going. Must investigate. A little late however, we have several in the works and this would be a good time to check that out. Thanks for the tip. If it proves well we'll make the change on this one too.


Yes you could turn the pump, we install the climate masters with there flow center and ive done it myself..This is a great looking job otherwise. I really like all the perm gauges.